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American Torture: I Know Who's Going to Pay

Apr 21, 09 | 8:41 AM   byMichael Wolff
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The 183 instances of waterboarding authorized by the Bush administration is the smoking gun. It’s now impossible to overlook that there existed a program of systematic American torture.

This is a problem for the new administration. Torture trials are not going to get them any credit, or earn them any favors. They’ll take the moral superiority, but would just as soon leave aside the practicalities of placing specific blame.

They’re worried, though, that it’s not going to go away. They’re obviously going back and forth right now, trying to figure out which side they ought to be on. The decision to release the secret reports was one impulse; the move to reassure the CIA torturers that they’re above board, another.

But it’s pretty unavoidable. Because the torture was carefully rationalized, the documentation is going to be bureaucratic and meticulous. We will have dispassionately recorded in hundreds of hours of video unimaginable brutality—our dispassion will make the brutality all the more vicious. And it will reach, of course, to ever-and-ever higher places. You don’t do this stuff without covering your ass.

The problem for the Obama administration is that if the national security apparatus finds itself under siege it’s going to try to undermine the White House at every turn (spies are major leakers). As bad, the intelligence community, already a lackluster performer, gets more sullen and unresponsive.

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But in the end, there really is some shit you can’t ignore. For one thing, the international community is going to hold this over us. For another, you don’t create the kind of enmity that the Bush people created and not have people pursuing you for the rest of your life.

It’s clear where this is going. This is a very specific story line. Indeed, the villain already knows he’s been made as the villain and is beginning to react. And with his particular brand of implacableness and self-righteousness, I’d guess he’s going to continue to react in a way that will most antagonize the Obama people, who have most control over revealing the details of the torture story line. He’s already enlisted Fox News in his defense, calling for disclosure of the information the torture got us (knowing, of course, that’s the secret stuff, which won’t be released).

Curiously, George Bush will probably slip away.

But the torture investigations, which will shortly begin, and broaden, and offer the alternative history of Iraq, the war on terror, and all our secret cruelties and obsessions, will bring down Dick Cheney.

More of Newser founder Michael Wolff's articles and commentary can be found at VanityFair.com, where he writes a regular column. He can be emailed at michael@newser.com.
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nick
Apr 21, 09 10:39 AM CDT
Ultimately, Dick Cheney will bring down Dick Cheney, just as Colonel Nathan R. Jessep did in A Few Good Men, when he shouted-- in total frustration-- "YOU WANT THE TRUTH? YOU CAN"T HANDLE THE TRUTH!" Reply
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Reader62391470
Apr 21, 09 11:03 AM CDT
You've nailed it 100%, Nick. DC (the Dick) has brought himself down. Reply
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propitiousmoment
Apr 21, 09 11:16 AM CDT
I pray to god that you are right and this does bring down Dick Cheney. Reply
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LibertyMan
Apr 21, 09 12:26 PM CDT
So we are going to have a one sided biased debate owned by the left? None of the memos which tell us HOW the interrogations actually saved American lives and prevented further mass casualty attacks on our homeland??? WRONG!! If you criminally charge the heros of the Bush Administarion for doing THEIR duty then I promise you that come fours years hence when the GOP has the White House back we will be putting the P-BO Administration on trial for TREASON. There are already ample grounds to do so now but if the lefties want to play by the sword...... Reply
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bacimom
Apr 22, 09 3:47 PM CDT
You can't prove a negative. There is no way, memos or not, to say that anything they did saved anyone, and that lesser interrogations wouldn't have been sufficient. The point is that their actions were illegal according to the Geneva Convention and the rest of the civilised world. Their actions against our enemies could have been used in retailiation against our troops and citizens. When only the enemy uses the techniques except us we are the enemy... in the same way that the only Western country to still have the death penalty is the USA... just us and the axis of evil. Don't give me any nonsense about how now the bad guys will know how far we'll go. We'll go just as far as Europe and all other signatories to the Genva Convention.
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LibertyMan
Apr 21, 09 12:27 PM CDT
AND....Dick Cheny is a GREAT American!!! Reply
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Robert_Dada
Apr 21, 09 5:24 PM CDT
Great American war criminal.
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polstroad
Apr 21, 09 12:48 PM CDT
I am not sure what is meant by "bring down Dick Cheney." Does this mean a trial and jail? Or just another smear upon his good name? Reply
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Reader68661530
Apr 23, 09 4:53 PM CDT
Good name? Surely you're kidding!
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nick
Apr 21, 09 2:05 PM CDT
Dick Cheney, a great American? You're kidding, right? The guy with an approval rating in the teens? A CNN poll taken when he left office in January, judged him to be the worst VP in the history of our Country. (Que: this is where the righties reply by knocking CNN polls). Reply
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AS1280
Apr 21, 09 3:29 PM CDT
I'm not knocking the science of the polls, nor am I a "rightie" as you say, but those polls are always harsher with more recent politicians. You know who was a crap president? Franklin Pierce! Can you guess how many Americans even remember he was a president? People forget, and they're harshest on those they remember.
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GiveMeLiberty
Apr 29, 09 1:06 PM CDT
That's because he's the first VP to actually have any responsibilities. BTW, the current Congress has the lowest poll ratings in history.
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Silent_Griot
Apr 21, 09 5:55 PM CDT
Franklin Pierce is also a relative of G.W. Bush and G.H.W. Bush. Guess it runs in the family. Reply
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bacimom
Apr 22, 09 3:48 PM CDT
and no relation to Alan Alda
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Hip
Apr 21, 09 9:02 PM CDT
If they didn't use torture they would never have captured Osama Bin Laden...wait a minute...never mind. Reply
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rlh
Apr 21, 09 11:28 PM CDT
Obama's placating the CIA "I was just following orders" in a one day news story. When Holder goes after Bush policy guys the CIA people, figuring that they're next will turn on Obama and make his life hell. Mr Moral Righteousness will regret getting into this one. Reply
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nellpost
Apr 23, 09 7:48 AM CDT
Is this mis-directed anger?
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molloyomatic
Apr 21, 09 11:34 PM CDT
Wow, Michael, I didn't know you could use the words shit and torture in the same story. Reply
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nellpost
Apr 23, 09 7:47 AM CDT
What about rumsfeld? Reply
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CommonsenseAmerican
Apr 23, 09 3:51 PM CDT
Doesn't the Geneva apply to soldiers in uniform, not terrorists targeting civilians. You lib's live in a fantasy land, where if we are nice to everyone they will all like us. If you don't like what this country stands for get the hell out. Reply
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Reader68661530
Apr 23, 09 4:55 PM CDT
Cheney is evil incarnate. Just got around to Burn Rate. Great read! Reply
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jsyantiss
Apr 25, 09 5:07 AM CDT
All the ultra-liberals commenting above, led by Wolff, live in a 1984, Big Brother dream world of no knowledge of history, and no personal experience with terrorism, oppression, and real torture, which inflicts real injury, not just discomfort, such as what the Taliban is inflcting on their own people right this minute. It is people such as the Taliban, which are threatening America, and any other nation whic is not Islamic according to the Koran, word-for-word, meaning wiping out all unbelievers. Before you prognosticate about something like torture, you should educate yourselves. Better yet, go live for about a year in one of the countries which fosters terrorism, such as Iran, or Indonesia, or North Korea, or, or, or... The real "evil incarnate" is those of you who advocate for the real torturers, sitting safely in your homes, while those for whom you act as stooges beat, maim, and execute those who disagree with them. You do not know what torture is. According to your twisted perspective, all murderers, rapists, and child molesters should be released from prison, because prison is uncomfortable, to wit, in your eyes, torture. Reply
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Silent_Griot
Apr 25, 09 2:31 PM CDT
"If you don't like what this country stands for get the hell out. " - CommonSense_anti_American Or you can do things the democratic, American way and vote in the leaders who will work to make the kinds of changes to the country that it's citizens can be proud of. Reply
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Reader69478539
Apr 26, 09 3:23 AM CDT
Hi there I am from New Zealand-next to Australia if you dont know!!! And I would just like to say I support America getting rid of Saddam but not all the incidents afterwards. You really have shamed yourselfs in front of the eyes of the world. You now have laws in your democratic country that would make the KGB clap theire hands with glee. The reason your new President is so well liked throughout the world is because we really want America to be great again and we are hopeing that he will fix things and make it so. All the best and I really hope that America can be great agian but you have a long way to go and a lot of things need to be addressed first and some people need to go to jail for what they have done and for a democratic country you need to get rid of your new KGB laws-(SOME of the homeland security laws etc.) Anyway all the best,please America be great again and help your new President,what ever your political party is!!! Reply
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Reader69853261
Apr 26, 09 6:30 PM CDT
I've never met a liberal yet who's ass I couldn't kick from one side of the street to the other. I believe most of them got pushed around a lot as kids, read a lot of comic books, and had a lot of female (not girl) friends. Naive, ignorant of human nature, lacking common sense, and above all, weak both physically and spiritually. Reply
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