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Crash May Have Been Worse Than Thought

Nate Silver sees bad things in long-term GDP graph

By John Johnson,  Newser Staff

Posted Aug 4, 2011 12:57 PM CDT

(Newser) – Need a pick-me-up given today's depressing stock news? Then be advised that Nate Silver's column in the New York Times is not for you. The stats guru plots GDP going back to 1877 and sees signs that our recent "economic crash was even worse than economists had previously believed ... and that the recovery has been even more timid." GDP is currently about $13.3 trillion "when it 'should' be $15.7 trillion based on the long-term trend," writes Silver.

"That puts us more than 15% below what we might think of as full output, by far the worst number since the Great Depression." So even if we avoid technically slipping into a double-dip recession and grow by a measly 2% or so, it's not enough. "What we need, instead, is above-average growth—in fact, quite a lot of it. Even if the economy were to begin growing at a 5% annual rate, it would take until 2018 for it to catch up to the long-term trend." Click for the charts and full column.

Traders work on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange on Thursday.
Traders work on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange on Thursday.   (AP Photo/Jin Lee)
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gzuckier
Aug 5, 2011 11:44 AM CDT
Gee, you mean that having offshored  all manufacturing jobs and being in the process of offshoring all technical jobs, leaving nothing in the American economy except healthcare, fastfood, disney world, government, and selling our houses to each other at higher and higher prices doesn't result in an ever upward GDP? why didn't anybody think of that? 
fractal
Aug 4, 2011 4:13 PM CDT
The numbers have been bullshit from the start in 2008.  Did we really expect the government to tell us how bad it really was, when the almighty stock market runs on rumor and hype?  Get rid of this legalized gambling with our financial future!   Its a stacked deck anyway because the established rich will always depend on insider info. The stock market is just another invention of oppression.
GenericLeftist
Aug 4, 2011 2:24 PM CDT
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -- Edmund Burke "But you must remember, my fellow-citizens, that eternal vigilance by the people is the price of liberty, and that you must pay the price if you wish to secure the blessing.  It behooves you, therefore, to be watchful in your States as well as in the Federal Government." -- Andrew Jackson, Farewell Address, March 4, 1837
 

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