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Aggressive Obama Edges 2nd Debate

Prez made vital comeback from Denver disaster, pundits say

By Rob Quinn,  Newser Staff

Posted Oct 17, 2012 2:30 AM CDT

(Newser) – President Obama actually showed up for the second debate, and while the feisty contest was nowhere near as one-sided as his Denver defeat, most pundits say that the president made the comeback he needed. Some 46% of viewers thought Obama won the debate, while 39% called it for Mitt Romney, according to a CNN poll.

  • "Debates are about moments," and Obama had three big ones: His quip that Romney's pension was bigger than his, his victory—with help from moderator Candy Crowley—in a scrap with Romney over the Benghazi attack, and his closing attack on Romney's 47% remarks, writes Chris Cillizza at the Washington Post. Romney had his share of moments, but when he tried to catch Obama out over Benghazi, he was "hoisted with his own petard by Crowley in what will be the single most memorable (and replayed) interaction of the debate," he writes.

  • Andrew Sullivan, who set off a panic among Obama supporters after the first debate with his analysis that the president may have thrown it all away, was satisfied: Obama "came back like a lethal, but restrained predator," he writes at the Daily Beast. "He behaved like a president. He owned the presidency."
  • Fox News declares that both Democrats and Republicans are split on who won, and rounds up a few opinions: Charles Krauthammer, for one, calls the debate "Frazier vs. Ali" and gives the win to Obama.
  • The debate was "effectively a tie, or perhaps a slight edge to the challenger," decides Yuval Levin at the National Review. Obama landed some punches by attacking Romney "as a cold-hearted plutocrat and calculating flip-flopper," but "Romney for the most part responded ably, and more importantly he attacked Obama’s record very effectively and argued for his own agenda reasonably well," he writes.
  • Mark Halperin at Time gives Obama a B-minus and Romney a C. Obama was vastly improved over Denver and "did well in terms of being presidential, emotional, and solid, without slipping into an off-putting hipper-than-thou mode," he writes, while Romney "flunked his main test of reacting to a more aggressive Obama" and "lost control of the event, the thread of his message, and the pleasing, accessible manner he displayed in Denver." The debate "puts a full stop to the reverberations of Obama’s Denver disaster that were still echoing, giving the incumbent an undeniable win," he decides.
  • Alan Schoder at CNN is among those calling the debate a big win for Obama. The president "laid out a persuasive case for re-election, point by point, drawing sharp contrasts with his opponent while avoiding rudeness," he writes, while his opponent's "defining moments were too frequently negative." Romney's "attempts to directly confront the president carried plenty of dramatic charge," but "left an impression more of petulance than leadership."

President Obama and  Mitt Romney exchange views during the second presidential debate at Hofstra University last night.
President Obama and Mitt Romney exchange views during the second presidential debate at Hofstra University last night.   (AP Photo/Eric Gay)
President Obama and Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney exchange views during the second presidential debate last night.
President Obama and Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney exchange views during the second presidential debate last night.   (AP Photo/David Goldman)
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DieselDaWg
Oct 17, 2012 11:53 PM CDT
Carnie Wilson did a horrible job of moderating.
milo7453
Oct 17, 2012 7:16 PM CDT
According to the federal government, there are 12.6 million working age Americans that are considered to be "officially" unemployed, but there are another 87.8 million working age Americans that are not working either. The federal government considers those Americans to be "not in the labor force" so they are not included in the unemployment rate. In fact, this is one of the key ways that the government manipulates the unemployment numbers. The Obama administration would have us believe that the unemployment rate is going down and that that since the start of the last recession about as many Americans have left the labor force as we saw during the entire decades of the 1980s and 1990s combined. Of course that is a bunch of nonsense, but that is what the Obama administration would have us believe. The truth is that the percentage of working age Americans that are employed is just about the same right now as it was two years ago. It was incredibly difficult to get a job back then and it is incredibly difficult to get a job right now. So don't believe the hype that things are getting much better. If you still do have a good job, you might want to hold on to it tightly, because there is not much hope that things are going to improve significantly any time soon.
Just_Dave
Oct 17, 2012 3:09 PM CDT
Obama won this one for sure.   Part of the win was lowered expectations based upon his first debate performance.  We'll have to see if the polls are impacted by Obama's win of this debate.  Was it enough to swing people one way or the other? I was surprised when I visited fivethirtyeight.com and the tone was very Obama.  I've always thought Nate Silver to present the facts and just the facts but he showed favoritism in his tone - especially when you compare it to his tone after the first debate that Romney won. The Fourth Estate was once valuable, if only we had a credible news source left in America.
 

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