I'm Anti-Gay Marriage, Not Anti-Gay: Warren

Still sounds pretty anti-gay... I think that all churches that think this way should have to call themselves "Nutbag cults" in order to recieve tax incentives. Reply

Mr. Warren has obviously only taken in the same fractured observations and beliefs of those like- "minded". Christianity is and always will be accepting of all God's children, brothers and sisters of Jesus. Real Christianity does not build walls around itself. It tears them down and calls all to love one another as He would have us do. It brings to mind, (you're not like me so you are wrong" kind of mindset) what someone once said, "Forgive them for they know not what they do". Warren, it's a much bigger world than you or your sad little bunch can fathom. Reply

The original interview is at: http://www.beliefnet.com/Video/Beliefnet-Interviews/Rick-Warren/Rick-Warren-Interview-On-Gay-Marriage-And-Divorce.aspx. It's interesting how he combines spin and flat out lying to clean up his image here. I'll just include a short excerpt from the original interview: 2:05 Warren: "But the issue to me is, um, I'm not opposed to [partnership benefits] as much as I'm opposed to the redefinition of a 5000 year definition of marriage. I'm opposed to having a brother and sister be together and call that marriage. I'm opposed to an older guy marrying a child and calling that a marriage. I'm opposed to one guy having multiple wives and calling that a marriage." 2:29 Interviewer: "Do you think those are equivalent to gays getting married?" 2:31 Warren: "Oh I do. I just, for 5000 years marriage has been defined by every single culture and every single religion. This is not a Christian issue." More screed follows. First, I'd like to point out that he does, in fact, equate gay marriage with incestuous, pedophilic, or polygamous marriages. This is directly contrary to what he says in the video on this page at 2:32: "I have been accused of equating gay partnerships with incest and pedophilia". Gee, I can't imaging how that rumor could've gotten started. Second, he is being disingenuous to suggest that the definition of marriage has never changed. It clearly has. Women are sometimes allowed to be equals now. There are fewer polygamous marriages compared to, say, certain sections of the Old Testament. Divorce is legal. People sometimes get married to a person of their own, rather than their parent's, choosing. These are fundamental changes to the institution of marriage. To suggest that marriage has survived 5000 years unchanged borders on an outright lie. Finally, in my own personal code of ethics, definitions are less important than people. If Warren really has no problem with the civil rights of gay people, then let him campaign as effectively for equal rights are he campaigns for a dead definition. If he does that, then I will sing his praises. Reply

And Obama chooses this jackass for his inaguration?!!? I feel like im taking crazy pills. Reply

That marriage is a static institution is the biggest lie the anti-marriage folks tell. 5000 years my arse, what about Loving vs. Virginia? What about the Rule of Thumb? What about polygamy? What about divorce? Reply