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Paging Dr. Nurse: New Degree Sparks Turf War

Physicians irked at nurses' doctoral status

By Matt Cantor,  Newser Staff

Posted Feb 23, 2009 12:00 PM CST

(Newser) – A doctoral degree for nurses has sparked a backlash from physicians, who say referring to nurses by the title "doctor" could be confusing to patients, NPR reports. “I can just imagine a patient walking into my exam room and saying, ‘Now, Dr. Smith, are you a doctor doctor, or are you a doctor nurse?'” says one physician. But some nurses say they deserve the title after completing the 6-year program.

“I practice at an advanced level, and I have earned the right to be called doctor,” said one. The disagreement over the title is more rooted in “ego” than concern for confused patients, says a dean at one of the more than 200 schools that offer a doctorate in nursing. “With all these new people—physician assistants, nurse practitioners—coming into the field, maybe our training won't lead to a secure position in the future,” notes a medical student.

Some physicians don't think nurses with doctoral degrees should be called doctor.
Some physicians don't think nurses with doctoral degrees should be called "doctor."   (Shutterstock)
Nurses say six years of school should mean they get to be called doctor.
Nurses say six years of school should mean they get to be called "doctor."   (Shutterstock)
Physicians say doctor nurses could confuse patients.
Physicians say doctor nurses could confuse patients.   (Shutterstock)
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Guest
Apr 26, 2009 8:58 PM CDT
Doctor means teacher or scholar, and not fundamentally or historically 'physician,' so the PhD is a real doctor. As such, a nurse PhD is a higher ranking doctor, than a MD degree which is a mid-level doctoral degree. It is the MDs who deserve less to be called 'doctor' than a nurse PhD. Mr. MD, heal thyself!
riffran
Feb 23, 2009 10:33 PM CST
Being a nurse, RN, I associate the title of "Doctor" with a person who is a medical type doctor, which would include dentistry and psychology, and veterinary also. Even though some nurses have advanced to the point of Nurse practicioner, and even Rn PHD in nursing or ever doctorate of Nursing I do not call them "Doc"....And I know the difference between the degrees......As a "joe public" I would be confused.......The line between the proffesions is getting more grey as the medical field progresses....When in doubt I refer to them as "sir" or "Maam"....but just to expose my own biased hypocrasy.......I took care of person who had a doctorate in english, snottily demand that I refer to him as "Doctor"....He was correct in that he was a "doctor of English"....but I told him point blank...."unless you are a medical doctor.......I'll call you sir or maam.....thankyouverrymuch"....
bacimom
Feb 23, 2009 9:16 PM CST
Dentists are doctors, they have medical training. So are Osteopaths and chiropractors. Their initial designation of dds, do and dc may not be md but are valid medical titles. I have no problem with nurses getting a PhD but calling them doctor in front of a patient is a problem. I'm with the perosn below that says call them Nurse (name) and have their tag say Nurse (name) PhD. BTW, the only PhDs I know personally that use the title in daily use are psychologists and therapists for the patient's trust sake. My uncle only used his title at work (as a head chemist for a major corporation). I address his mail as Dr. (name) PhD for kicks but that's my idea not his.

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