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THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 26, 2009
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Democrats Lose Patience Over Wars, Gitmo

Support ebbs on left as Obama's security plans look uncertain

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(Newser) – Democrats are having misgivings about the war in Afghanistan and the shuttering of Guantanamo Bay, particularly in the more liberal House, the New York Times reports. Though Congress is sure to approve another $96.7 billion in war funding, the House took out $80 million to close Guantanamo, saying the White House must provide more details. If Afghanistan worsens, President Obama could find himself on a short leash.

Rep. David Obey says he’ll give Obama a year to demonstrate progress in Afghanistan, just as he gave Nixon a year on Vietnam, but he’s “extremely dubious” Obama can accomplish his goals. “It’s wrong,” Rep. Alan Grayson says of the Afghan war. “There is no need in the 21st century to do this to make us safe.”

John Murtha, right, and David Obey make remarks on a war funding bill, Nov. 20, 2007.
John Murtha, right, and David Obey make remarks on a war funding bill, Nov. 20, 2007.   (AP Photo)
American soldiers sit in a US C-17 military plane before airlift to Afghanistan at US Manas air base in Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan, May 8, 2009.
American soldiers sit in a US C-17 military plane before airlift to Afghanistan at US Manas air base in Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan, May 8, 2009.   (AP Photo)
US Defense Secretary Robert Gates speaks during a news conference in Kabul, Afghanistan, May 7, 2009.
US Defense Secretary Robert Gates speaks during a news conference in Kabul, Afghanistan, May 7, 2009.   (AP Photo)
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indybikehiker
May 14, 09 9:52 AM CDT
If Democrats and others demanded a timeline on Iraq from President Bush, they surely should demand a timeline -- and a clear, publicly understandable strategy -- on Afghanistan from President Obama. Too much is beginning to become murky and shifting. This is SO typical. Reply
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kokuaguy
May 14, 09 11:22 AM CDT
Well, it is remarkable that the Obama administration has succeeded in getting the Pakistanis to be so proactive in opposing the Taliban. I want to see progress as promised in getting out of Iraq. If that happens I'll be more likely to withhold judgment on Afghanistan. As for Gitmo, everyone knows the Bush Administration opened a Pandora's Box there and it will not be easy to correct the situation. The torture and abuses have ended. Reply
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ClearSight
May 14, 09 12:10 PM CDT
LOL cry baby democrats. Pathetic creatures, has Big Brother Obama let you down? Reply
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kokuaguy
May 14, 09 7:41 PM CDT
RobN accuses us "liberals" of neglecting to weigh in here but not hesitating to pin Rove to the wall on another Newser page. He's mistaken, not surprisingly, but I did explain my reasoning and I'll paste it here for good measure (and a couple of Newser points.) Reply
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kokuaguy
May 14, 09 8:05 PM CDT
You have a point, RobN. However, I have enough faith in the Obama administration to believe that "indefinitely" doesn't mean forever. Had McCain been elected, I'd have assumed the opposite. I did post somewhere earlier today on this site that I'm willing to wait and see before condemning Obama's team since I believe they will bite the bullet and close Gitmo "with all deliberate speed", and will be forced to bring a number of detainees to U.S. prisons which will give Limbaugh and his ilk an unlimited amount of ammunition for their assault on this administration. The Pandora's Box that was thrown open when Bush's Neo-cons created Gitmo unleashed consequenses that it will take many years to deal with. Reply
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