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'Moral Calculus' Made Torture OK: Krauthammer

Krauthammer doing 'moral calculus'

By Kevin Spak,  Newser Staff

Posted May 15, 2009 12:45 PM CDT

(Newser) – Nancy Pelosi’s “contemptible hypocrisy” on the torture issue tells us a great deal about the “moral calculus” behind the issue, writes Charles Krauthammer in the Washington Post. “Our jurisprudence has the ‘reasonable man’ standard,” he argues, which asks a jury to decide what a reasonable person would do in urgent circumstances. Post 9/11, Pelosi, and many Americans, decided torture was a reasonable response to the terrorist threat.

Even Nobel Peace laureate Yitzhak Rabin once OK’d torture in a “ticking time bomb scenario.” So if the no-torture rule isn’t inviolable, we have to think about when it would be acceptable. Pelosi, and the American people (“who by 2004 knew what was going on” and “strongly reelected” President Bush anyway), decided the threat of another 9/11 justified torture. And, Krauthammer concludes, “They were right.”

Members of the World Can't Wait group perform a live waterboarding demonstration outside the Spanish Consulate in Manhattan, April 23, 2009.
Members of the World Can't Wait group perform a live waterboarding demonstration outside the Spanish Consulate in Manhattan, April 23, 2009.   (AP Photo)
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi speaks on Capitol Hill yesterday.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi speaks on Capitol Hill yesterday.   (AP Photo)
Ankle handcuffs are shown locked to the chair and floor in an interrogation room at Camp V, at Guantanamo Bay Naval Base, Cuba, in this 2005 photo.
Ankle handcuffs are shown locked to the chair and floor in an interrogation room at Camp V, at Guantanamo Bay Naval Base, Cuba, in this 2005 photo.   (AP Photo)
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The reason Pelosi [and the American people] raised no objection to waterboarding … is because at that time they were aware of the existing conditions … and concluded that on balance it was a reasonable response to a terrible threat.
- Charles Krauthammer

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mockingbird
May 16, 2009 12:10 PM CDT
Curious, Robert (and, as I've asked paul123 questions in a similar vein, this is not meant to be confrontational but from genuine curiosity), as you've expressed disdain for non-material/non-observable belief, by what bases do you define "justice"? Strictly secular reasoning for morality's been something I've been thinking about a bit lately (and not idly - I was raised an atheist and've been an agnostic for quite some time); and, once reduced to its foundations, I can find none that are wholly tenable, none that don't reduce down to historic underlying religious justifications. Even enlightened self-interest as a control breaks-down given sufficient strength of a party or parties. Secular morality seems to rest with otherwise rather arbitrary agreement.
EKD
May 16, 2009 10:13 AM CDT
Strongly reelected Bush anyway? Where did Krauthammer ever come up with this fairytale?
Doctor-Zaius
May 16, 2009 4:21 AM CDT
You would be a perfect example of what they call "behind the curve"

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