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Gitmo Detainee: I Was Tortured

By Kevin Spak| Posted Jun 8, 09 11:33 AM CDT|

(Newser) – In 2002, Lakhdar Boumediene was a relief worker who cared for orphans. “I’m a normal man,” he says. So when the US shackled him and flew him to Guantanamo Bay, he thought he’d be freed soon. “They have CIA, FBI. Maybe one week, two weeks, they know I am innocent,” he says. Now, 7½ years and two landmark court victories later, the Algerian has finally been released. He sat down with ABC News to discuss his ordeal.

Asked if he thinks he was tortured, Boumediene replied, “I don’t think. I know.” He says he was kept awake for 16 days straight, shackled and pulled to stretch his body, dragged bloody behind running guards. When he went on a hunger strike, he says, the guards would play “games” with him, shoving his IV needle up his nose. “You think that’s not torture?” he asked, showing the scars his shackles left. “What can you call this?”

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Lakhdar Boumediene tells Jack Tapper that he thought the US would free him in this screenshot.

Asked if he thinks he was tortured, Lakhdar Boumediene replies, "I don't think. I know," in this screenshot from ABC News.

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If I tell my interrogator, I am from Al Qaeda, they will tell me, 'Oh you are a good man.' But if I refuse? I tell them I'm innocent, never was I terrorist, never never, they tell me. 'You are not cooperating, I have to punch you.' - Lakhdar Boumediene

The first month, okay, no problem, the building, the 11 of September, the people, they are scared, but not 7 years. They can know whose innocent. - Lakhdar Boumediene, saying he understands America's post-9/11 fears, but can't forgive President Bush

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psycada
Jun 8, 09 11:40 AM CDT

This is our legacy. What has passed, says a lot about an administration. What comes from this will say a lot about our nation. Reply

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godawgs
Jun 8, 09 11:44 AM CDT

First of all it is the word of someone who claims they were innocent. Our prison system is full of them. Now he is out, and trying to make a buck on his experience. I wish that we could hear both sides of the story involving all of the detainees. I mean the treatment they are receiving is not all roses but it is nothing compared to the people who have been kidnapped by the Mexican drug cartels, or the citizens that have been beheaded by Islamic extremists. I am sure that he was just a social worker and was picked up for nothing as well. Let the negative posts begin.

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SalParadise
Jun 8, 09 11:49 AM CDT

@godawgs: Comparing something bad to something worse doesn't make the former any better!

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JaneMP
Jun 8, 09 12:01 PM CDT

godawgs, America is supposed to be better than this. And nearly everyone associated with Gitmo says there were many not guilty people there--that's why the Bush administration released hundreds of detainees. They were't guilty. This is a terrible stain on our reputation. Rather than comparing our country to Mexican drug cartels and extremists who behead people, you should honor us as a nation of law. We should be a shining light to the world, an exampe of what a truly great country is and does. I say that because I love my country.

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PaleRider
Jun 8, 09 1:13 PM CDT

When it comes down to it, you libs can say whatever you want, but godawgs is 100% correct.

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godawgs
Jun 8, 09 1:32 PM CDT

JaneMP America is supposed to better then what? This person just throws around accusations that he was tortured without any proof? He has scars but is there anything stating that he didn't show up with these scars? I mean the people are willing to believe anything bad that is thrown out about America with no proof. It is a stain on our reputation because we allow it to be a stain. If Gitmo is so bad and the people are so harmless then how come no other county is jumping up and down to take them? Why don't we just send them back home? This is the word of person who was arrested for something and I doubt it was for planting too many trees. I watch a lot fo the shows on MSNBC called Lockup, and a majority of the prisoners on that show are always complaining that they are being mistreated or something. This case just reminds of that situation.

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fancygapva
Jun 8, 09 7:35 PM CDT

Let me get this right, godawgs and Pale Rider, a person from the Middle-east or Southeast Asia who is a darker shade than Pale can't be believed and is guilty, period. And whose constitution are we using to make that determination, Iraq's or Afghanistan's? I'm fairly sure that if this guy isn't who he says he is he wouldn't be OUT of gitmo. The Git-maniacs in charge don't tend to believe everything that the POW's...oops, sorry, "illegal combatants" say there and I'm sure that they would rather NOT let someone go free who would tell tales out of school if they could help it or if they could do it with good conscience. If torturers and their bosses have consciences, that is. You know, in Old Salem, before we had a Constitution they used something like waterboarding to determine who was a witch. They dunked them under water on a board and if they died then they weren't witches. If they lived, then they were witches and they burned them. Don't you think we MIGHT be better than that? Don't you believe we've learned anything?

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Fondue
Jun 8, 09 11:41 AM CDT

It's an absolute shame this has happened. Reply

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Citrixguy
Jun 8, 09 12:10 PM CDT

Don't you mean IF it happened. Why u just accept him word without question is a mystery

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Fondue
Jun 8, 09 1:02 PM CDT

Actually it's no mystery at all. Innocent until proven guilty. Maybe that's a mystery to you, but it's been working just fine for over 220 years.

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Citrixguy
Jun 8, 09 1:09 PM CDT

@Fondue - 'cept of course for the Bush / Cheney years, in your eyes they are guilty right?

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mintclassic
Jun 8, 09 3:25 PM CDT

You know, dude...there are a LOT of reasons that Bush and Cheney are guilty, but even they should still be given a fair trial. You just don't get any of this, do you?

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Caps
Jun 8, 09 11:42 AM CDT

This is very sad, just an example of the Buch/Cheney crazy doctrine. Reply

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Citrixguy
Jun 8, 09 12:11 PM CDT

i doubt it happened. I am more willing to believe that he is a lying scum bag terrorist that is using left-wing media to help his cause.

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dontlikenobody
Jun 8, 09 1:05 PM CDT

Again you surface, Citrixslime. You may " doubt it happened" but our courts didn't - or are they part of the "lying leftwing _____ (fill in the blank)" you seem to believe surrounds you. I, on the other hand, have no trouble believing you are just a lying scum bag wingnut. All on your own. No conspiracy. Just you.

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Amber
Jun 8, 09 1:13 PM CDT

@ Citrixguy, doubting something can happen doesn't make it so, I well imagine that many is the time people look at you and had doubted their entire life such ignorance could exist yet it does and seems to flourish, how sad.

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PaleRider
Jun 8, 09 1:15 PM CDT

A lot of our courts are a part of the "lying leftwing _____ (fill in the blank)"

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mintclassic
Jun 8, 09 3:26 PM CDT

How convenient for your argument!

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jeangnome
Jun 8, 09 11:49 AM CDT

How is this news worthy? We've known there has been torture and illegal detention going on almost since 9/11 happened. Reply

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NutsInNY
Jun 8, 09 12:27 PM CDT

What a peculiar attitude you have -- more appropriate to a story about a celebrity couple breaking up or something.

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myvoice
Jun 8, 09 12:21 PM CDT

Citrixguy is generalizing yet again! So he thinks everyone in GB is automatically guilty of terrorism. It has already been proved that "THIS" guy has not done anything, and is only guilty of being someone who "looks" like a terrorist. Get off your self righteous horse! Reply

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NutsInNY
Jun 8, 09 12:29 PM CDT

Citrusgoon is a sociopathic waste of bandwidth. (His parents must be so proud.)

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godawgs
Jun 8, 09 1:51 PM CDT

Yeah and OJ got off too, and so did Bill Ayers.."Guilty as hell but free as a bird"

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doingtherightthing
Jun 8, 09 12:22 PM CDT

this story reminds me of the death camps after world war 11. The townspeople that surrounded these camps claimed they were innocent and didn't know what was happening inside. The military made those townspeople go inside and see those atrocities committed by the Germans. So this guy says he is a outsider. He claims he is innocent. This terrorists was locked up in Gitmo for a reason. He knows what's going on as well being a collaborator with these terrorists. If you deny deny deny the weak will begin to believe his lie. He was locked up for over seven years for a reason. I'd suggest you people review before you accuse our government of any wrong doing. He's guilty alright just like O.J. was not guilty....... Reply

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mintclassic
Jun 8, 09 12:37 PM CDT

Please don't go into law.

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Reader64481089
Jun 8, 09 12:38 PM CDT

Yea, he was locked up for a reason, he had dark skin and a turban but then again all you Republicans think that automatically makes one guilty. You are as bad as the ones administering the torture and also as bad as the ones who deny the Holocaust. This is our personal holocaust smaller in numbers but not that much different in scope.

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Corona_Kinq
Jun 8, 09 2:05 PM CDT

...and you're basing that on what evidence?

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shonangreg
Jun 8, 09 4:39 PM CDT

WTF are you saying? Your writing is incomprehensible, rightthing. Please, write this in Notepad or whatever you use, AND THEN RE-READ IT and edit so other people don't get lost.

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Fondue
Jun 8, 09 5:03 PM CDT

I'm kind of interested in what happened during WW 3 -10. C'mon man, Roman numerals are letters. If you don't like how WW II, try WW2. "I'd suggest you people review before you accuse our government of any wrong doing.", that's thing - we are reviewing. Did you happen to read this article? This guy has been released after 2 landmark court victories. I swear, it's like all you read was Gitmo and saw a brown man.

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Reader64481089
Jun 8, 09 12:36 PM CDT

JaneMP. I have found through the years that godawgs and others like godawgs are incapable of being swayed even when directly confronted with what they secretly know. Once confronted then they start the game of "he wasn't treated as badly as over there" Their ridiculous efforts to deny the truth are much like in Iran where they deny the holocaust I am finding many similarities in their political belief system as well. Jane, we would do well to stop attempting to sway the Republicans who deny the torture and imprisonment of INNOCENT people and allow them to spout their insanity as they march the poor off to fight their wars just like always. Reply

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godawgs
Jun 8, 09 1:43 PM CDT

Reader I am not trying to deny any truth. If it comes out this person was treated the way he states then the people in charge should have to answer for their crimes. The issue is that this person claims they were tortured. To everyone here that is just as good as judge saying your right, you were tortured. You all scream about innocent until proven guilty. That is not the case for the US Armed forces who not guilty no matter what they say or what comes out. Now why didn't ABC interview the guards that were that allegedly did this to him? Let's hear both sides of the story before we go off and blame the armed forces for doing something wrong. Also I was in the Navy for 9 years from 99 to 08 so I didn't march anyone off to war, I was there.

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dontlikenobody
Jun 8, 09 12:57 PM CDT

"First of all it is the word of someone who claims they were innocent. Our prison system is full of them." He's not the only one saying he's innocent? So what - our courts ALSO say he's innocent! " Now he is out, and trying to make a buck on his experience." Ir's called reparation, not "making a buck" - don't judge everybody by your own twisted ethics " I wish that we could hear both sides of the story involving all of the detainees. I mean the treatment they are receiving is not all roses." Neat. Never before heard physical torture reduced to a mere "lack of roses." Next up, you'll be comparing it to "no more than a fraternity hazing.' I'd call you an idiot, but that's not right except in a very narrow and specific sense - let's just say you're morally and ethically deficient. About on a par with a Mexican drug lord. Reply

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Reader64481089
Jun 8, 09 1:08 PM CDT

Excuse me, err did you happen to see the part that stated VERY CLEARLY they had been tried not once but TWICE? and was NOT convicted. So go sit in a corner and pretend the entire world revolves around your wishes ...oh you already do that, never mind then.

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warhead
Jun 8, 09 1:16 PM CDT

Reader - learn HOW to read. I'm on your side. See the previous post from Godawgs for context.

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PaleRider
Jun 8, 09 1:19 PM CDT

You are an ignorant person, the Red Cross and ACLU both have people visiting these people regularly, if there was egregious physical torture going on, you would see it in bold across this site.

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dontlikenobody
Jun 8, 09 1:32 PM CDT

@paleRider. Wrong again. ACLU has had no visits and, by treaty and practice, the Red Cross does not release its findings publicly, although a recent leak did say that they had found evidence of mistreatment. @Reader Warhead's right - you've misread what I said. The criticism is directed at Godawgs, but somehow got posted as a separate topic. @Warhead. Thanks, but I can defend myself.

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godawgs
Jun 8, 09 1:50 PM CDT

Logothete Again every prisoner in our system says they are innocent. Call it what you want, he is using his experience to gain financially. I call that making a buck. I do wish that we could hear both sides. Do you want to talk about the gourmet meals he received while he was there, the outside time the religious freedom? The torture allegation is alleged the conditions of the facility are proven. I don't compare it to fraternity hazing but the conditions are no worse then what we put our prisoners through, and they are much easier then the supermax where the left wants to send these guys. I am not morally or ethically deficient, I just don't feel as though we should take the word of someone who doesn't prevent any proof other then scars on his ankles.

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expatinTO
Jun 8, 09 1:16 PM CDT

America, fuck yeah! innocent until proven guilty? hell no, only if you are one of us! Reply

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psycada
Jun 8, 09 2:39 PM CDT

Sometimes lately, not even if you're one of us.

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Fondue
Jun 8, 09 5:07 PM CDT

This from the ex-patriot.

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vendetta
Jun 8, 09 1:21 PM CDT

It truly is shameful what this country has degenerated into. Our citizens clamoring for illegal wire taps, illegal searches, and now torturing? Sigh, we are indeed a disgrace as of late. Reply

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WallyEFunk
Jun 8, 09 2:37 PM CDT

FYI ,Government agencies ! pickup PaleRider I heard he's a subversive. ( Oh I'm might be mistaken and just not like him ,treat him nice, while U figure it out, for however long it takes) How many PPL went free because of DNA testing? Letting 10 possible guilty go, because U might sent one innocent Person to jail ,has been a corner stone of all law. PaleRider tell use who it went after.OK Tks.... Reply

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TerrifiedCitizen
Jun 8, 09 3:07 PM CDT

The above comments and ratings make it pretty clear that the majority of Americans think what selected rogue politicians did regarding Gitmo, human rights and our own esteemed constitutional law was criminal. America claims a government by the people. Therefore, the course that should now be taken is rather obvious. Reply

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godawgs
Jun 8, 09 4:02 PM CDT

no it shows that this a left leaning website.

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Reader64481089
Jun 8, 09 3:19 PM CDT

@ Gadawg, I also served many years ago and was released from duty in 1973. Before proclaiming all American troops innocent study history in a place named My Lai Vietnam. If an entire village of people women, children, old man can be multilateral, tossed in pits and burned do you not thing then an American "supervisor" can't instruct a soldier to perform an act that goes against all conventions and treaties we as a country have signed? Go read about My Lai, it took 30 years for the innocent troops to finally get the entire truth out but in the end only the low ranking were punished while those who actually ordered the entire affair now are leading the way in other battles. A good place to begin might be here: Or Google My Lai: http://hnn.us/articles/7162.html Reply

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godawgs
Jun 8, 09 4:16 PM CDT

I am not saying they are innnocent but lets give them the benefit of the doubt first. This a different place and different itme then nam. There is constant media scuritiny on these places. I know that everyone can't be watched all of the time, but to comapre the senseless killings in Ma Lai to what is being alleged here is way off base. I understand what you are saying but the country is basically taking the word of person who might/might not have been a terrorist or enemy combantant. His case thrown out, but it didn't say way.

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mintclassic
Jun 8, 09 4:31 PM CDT

godawgs: sounds an awful lot like you've already made up your mind that there isn't any torture going on, and that anyone who says differently is probably just a terrorist. And before you come back with, "well it sounds like YOU'VE made YOUR mind up that there IS torture going on," look...we have now ADMITTED to waterboarding, there's dozens of accounts out there like this guy's, and the pictures of all those naked, hooded dudes didn't really help either. You can't fault some of us for suspecting that something is up when there clearly IS. We can debate the definition of the word "torture" all night if you want, but what this guy is describing are exactly the "enhanced interrogation techniques" you're so adamantly for.

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godawgs
Jun 8, 09 6:08 PM CDT

Mintclassic I don't have my mind up on what happened. My biggest complaint is that the suspect is given the benefit of the doubt while the accused is not even represented. EIT or whatever we are going to call them were carried out at Gitmo. The Armed forces have admitted to water boarding three people. This person was not one of them, but for him to come out and say he was tortured and just be believed is not a good thing for our men and women in uniform.

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Reader64481089
Jun 8, 09 3:33 PM CDT

@ Warhewead, sorry my blood pressure was really high at dealing with the total ignorance as well as stupidity of the very first Republican post and I miss read. Here is why I was so upset. I am reliving a time from another war long ago in which a CIA Interrogator took a 13 year old child into a hut used for "questioning" and raped her repeatedly, the country was again being contr9lled by Republican right wing's and would not allow the truth to come out but trust me it happened and we as soldiers could do nothing to prevent nor stop this. The CIA Interrogator was FINALLY charged and even convicted given a 20 year sentence........he served less than 9 months and was released while the troops who testified against him 3 were found dead and a 4th has had more than 1 attempt on his life. And yes, the Republicans will deny it but all they have to do it read. Again my appoligise but this is very painful for my country once again suffering the same blind streak. As I said all you need to do is read and if you do not trust that sight then google it yourself. http://hnn.us/roundup/entries/28956.html Reply

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Jungun
Jun 8, 09 5:46 PM CDT

This indeed is a sad chapter in America's history and one that will be difficult to right. I don't suppose we'll know the full story (from both sides) of what exactly has been going on in GB for a longtime, if ever. But even if only what the previous administration freely admits has been going on is true and this man is lying then the damage is already great. However the sad repitition of history and the well documented events of Abu Ghraib and the extraordinary rendition of suspects in Europe and the Mid East suggests there are likely to be many much greater stains on America. I just hope that with the new administration and the withdrawal of troops from Iraq we can begin to put this era behind us. Reply

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radnip
Jun 16, 09 2:28 AM CDT

This is our legacy and we don't care. Please, you're not even American. We throw our own citizens in jail (for mental illness, abuse issues) instead of dealing with them. Do you really think we care about a few foreigners we can easily ignore? Get this: Americans do not care what happens to you. Do you see us caring about Chinese or Africans or South Americans or Mexicans? Hello? Reply

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