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OPINION

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Obama the Messiah Twists History

Hovering from on high, he finds fault with US: Krauthammer

By Jason Farago| Posted Jun 12, 09 8:40 AM CDT|

(Newser) – "He's sort of God," a Newsweek writer said of Barack Obama on MSNBC recently, which for Charles Krauthammer is only a mild overstatement of how the president sees himself: "hovering above mere mortals, mere country, to gaze benignly upon the darkling plain beneath him." In his Cairo speech, Obama took his "gospel of understanding" to an extreme, equating brutality in the Muslim world with mild American foibles, writes the Washington Post columnist.

To Krauthammer's ears, Obama even made the rights of women sound equally threatened in the US and Iran—as if "some softball team receiving insufficient Title IX funds" could be equated to beatings, acid attacks, and stonings. The president might think his on-the-one-hand-on-the-other stance shows leadership and balance. In fact, his "self-flagellating apologetics" signal little more than hunger for approval and "a disturbing ambivalence toward his own country."

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President Obama's speech aimed to set a new tone in America's often-strained dealings with the world's 1.5 billion Muslims. (AP Photo/Ben Curtis)

An Afghan man photographs U.S. President Barack Obama from the TV during a live broadcast of a speech by Obama from Cairo in Khost province south of Kabul, Afghanistan on Thursday, June 4, 2009. (AP Photo/Nishanuddin Khan)

Barack Obama speaks at Cairo University, Thursday, June 4, 2009. (AP Photo/Gerald Herbert)

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He's showing cheap condescension, an unseemly hunger for applause and a willingness to distort history for political effect. Creating false equivalencies is not moral leadership, but moral abdication.
- Charles Krauthammer

Obama's transcultural evenhandedness gives the veneer of professorial sophistication to the most simple-minded observation. These rights and wrongs aren't of equal weight. - Charles Krauthammer

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ClingingToHope
Jun 12, 09 9:02 AM CDT

Charles is spot on. Can't wait for the libofascists to spew their hate and "Obama can do no wrong" crap here. Reply

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warhead
Jun 12, 09 9:23 AM CDT

Love those "American foibles," like torture, unprovoked war, rampant violence... these are not things to be proud of, idiot. These are things about which you have a duty to say "Sorry", just so you can get them behind you. Despite what you and your nutty friends think, we have a lot we should regret, and one hell of a lot to repair. Your damage to our nation is unforgivable. My worry is that Obama may not be strong enough to start fixing it.

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AnnieChrist
Jun 12, 09 10:20 AM CDT

How about this for "Obama can do no wrong" crap : 65% Approval Rating.

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PaleRider
Jun 12, 09 7:21 PM CDT

65% and going down. Whats more telling is his DIS-Approval rating which is one of the highest at 34%, up from 31% a short period of time ago.

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newzjunkie
Jun 12, 09 8:56 PM CDT

Love it NOT nuts.... This guy explained how many people feel about Obama, especially they way he apologizes for the US all the time. I thought he was supposed to lead the US not destroy it.

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Doctor_Zaius
Jun 13, 09 7:54 AM CDT

Once again Pole-Rider, you have been chewing on your fingernails too often. Bush's disapproval ratings was the highest ever at 72%. So go back to your little pretend statistics website and see if you can scratch up some more tempests in teacups.

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OriginalMike007
Jun 13, 09 10:26 AM CDT

warhead, Love those Islamic foibles, like torutre, unprovoked terrorism, rampant and extreme violence against innocent people especially women and children, advocating racism and violence against Jews and America, taking hostages, executing hostages, subjugating and circumcising women, denying education to women, attacking women who don't strictly ascribe to their own beliefs...Those are not things to be proud of, yet many Muslims are and the one's who aren't certainly don't say "Sorry" or even seem to regret such actions very much. Their damage to all humanity is unforgivable. My worry is that Obama may not be strong enough to stop them.

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warhead
Jun 13, 09 3:09 PM CDT

These are not things to be proud of, and Jihadists are. You're right. BUT not all or even many Muslims are jihadists. 99.9% are decent, law-abiding humans who are as ashamed of that barbarity as we should be. I would think that, as a matter of national policy, it's wiser to emulate them , not the jihadists. When those bastards bring out the worst in us and turn us into red-eyed, red-necked, foaming-at-the-mouth Crusaders, they've won. Believe it or not, it's up to us to be more human, more humane than they are. And we can't do that hiding behind a wall of denial. As a country, we have to acknowledge and face the consequences of our acts. As a country, it's time for us to grow up and get some balls.

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sambo
Jun 13, 09 9:50 PM CDT

enough of this Obama ass kissing already lets see Him DO something for Gods sake!

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AmericaPrevails
Jun 16, 09 1:39 PM CDT

It's almost impossible to find someone who speaks the truth in such a convincing manner. The things that pass for journalism now days.. well done Charles Krauthammer. Warhead- torture? You mean waterboarding? Or almost putting an insect that an inmate at guantanamo was especially fearful of into the same cell as him? Still sounds less violent than cutting off someones head with a dull sword while muttering things to allah, and then putting it on the internet for the family to see doesn't it? Or stoning a woman? Or, better yet, beheading a woman for asking for a divorce? That one was a bit more close to home, in America actually, I'm sure you all heard. The war with the Afgans was provoced. The war in Iraq, was less so provoked, but the threat of WMD falling into extremists hands was to big. Almost all the major intelligence agencies agreed that the Iraqi's has WMD when we invaded. But seeing as you have head al of that before lets start from a new angle.. Were fighting a geurila warfare style war, we need the threat of guantanamo, and the presence in the middle East in order to continue to show a strong, unwavering face or resolution to our enemy.

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polstroad
Jun 12, 09 9:06 AM CDT

nice talk, dirt mouth! Kraut like most or all conservatives offer nothing after th eBush years abnd so they pick up Nancy's mantra: just say no. sniping will not get the party back in power, and NotNuts badmouthing will change nothing. Am voted O. in and Am still loves the buy. Reply

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ClingingToHope
Jun 12, 09 9:18 AM CDT

Is English not your first language? Or are you drunk? "Am voted O. in and Am still loves the buy." "Am" what? "Buy" what? Did you mean "Boy"? THAT would be demeaning. And what "dirt" are you referring to? If you can't figure out your keyboard, you should resign yourself to just reading the posts, if you are actually able to read.

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prowlerzee
Jun 12, 09 9:19 AM CDT

Speak for yourself. I can't stand Krauthammer, but Zerobama's talk of how Muslim women should be "free" to wear the veil is vile. His refusal to hold the Islamic pigs accountable for gender apartheid is unforgivable. If it were McCain pressuring Congress to continue to fund the "war on terror" and appointing antichoice activists left and right and expanding Bush's faith-based office and putting it under Health and Human Services, you'd be sceaming your fool head off. If you're still high on Hopium you're gonna have a hell of a hangover when you decide to sober up.

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OriginalMike007
Jun 13, 09 9:50 AM CDT

Sniping got the Democrats back in power. Their constant and often unwarranted attacks on everything the Bush administration did were so effective that the Republicans are following suit.

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warhead
Jun 13, 09 3:15 PM CDT

No, OM, Bush's arrogant incompetence brought the Dems to power. If all the Goopers can do is copy what they think was merely a tactic, without ever realizing the factual basis behind ir, they'll spend a long time in the wilderness.

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skeptik
Jun 12, 09 9:18 AM CDT

Whatever....Kraut is just another bitter, hate-filled old white man who still can't accept the outcome of last Nov elections when America spoke & elected Obama by a large margin. Reply

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ClingingToHope
Jun 12, 09 9:21 AM CDT

What about all the bitter, hate-filled liberal/democrat/fascists who still insist on deriding Sarah Palin and her family months after the elections. America did speak; Chairman Barry was not elected by that wide a margin; and when the American people finally recognize him for the marxist he is and the damage he is doing to this country, the 2010 elections will spell the end of his (and Reid and Pelosi's) nonsense.

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skeptik
Jun 12, 09 9:49 AM CDT

wtf does Sarah Palin have to do with this article? It is about Krauts delusional remarks about Pres Obama. Try to stay on topic, will you?

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godawgs
Jun 12, 09 11:58 AM CDT

again they didn't elect him by a large margin. it was 7%

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Uptik
Jun 13, 09 8:16 AM CDT

7% is a HUGE margin in presidential politics. Reagan's 1980 blowout was 9%, So the difference between 7 and 9 is not that big of a margin and a blowout? You're an idiot.

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OriginalMike007
Jun 13, 09 9:56 AM CDT

skeptik, NNiPA was pointing out that liberals are often make bitter,hate-filled remarks as well as a counter point to your bitter, hate-filled ad hominid attack on Krauthammer.

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warhead
Jun 13, 09 3:17 PM CDT

OM, ad hominid? Don't bring our monkey ancestors into this, particularly when you're making an ad hominem attack yourself.

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sambo
Jun 13, 09 9:53 PM CDT

Oh white man... now that doesn't sound racist skeptik You asshole

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sambo
Jun 13, 09 9:59 PM CDT

Skeptik Oh You're from Chicago that says it all the most corrupt place in the country wonderful you're one of His Boys Bottom Feeder

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logothete
Jun 14, 09 2:16 AM CDT

"... now that doesn't sound racist ..." What the Hell do you think you're talking about? FYI, if you're thinking what I think you're thinking, hominids are our most remote near-human, but mostly ape ancestors. Nothing at all to do with race - just OM's mistaken choice of words. The only one waving the racist banner around here is you with your lying name-choice. And what, precisely, makes Skeprik an asshole? I think I smell a Rickrolld.

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Caps
Jun 12, 09 9:18 AM CDT

Charles Krauthammer, is just another out of touch person, just like NNiP. Who spews hate???? The Republican party is nothing but hate. Reply

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ClingingToHope
Jun 12, 09 9:22 AM CDT

The true haters are liberals. Read the news articles and see who wants to suppress your free speech.

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prowlerzee
Jun 12, 09 9:24 AM CDT

Oh yes, only the Republicans, hm? Well, except for the bridezilla generation, a ton of women saw what swine the so-called "progressive" men were and still are. Witness bitter, old David Letterman calling Palin a slut and her daughter a whore...no doubt with the likes of you cheering him on. And anyone who negative-rates this truth is a vile womanhater from the left. Enjoy exposing yourselves as such! :)

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warhead
Jun 12, 09 9:30 AM CDT

I'll give you one thing, Nuts; personally I'm beginning to strongly dislike you. As for the rotting, shameful ideas you stand for, you bet your life I hate them.

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Poludamas88
Jun 12, 09 11:53 AM CDT

Don't feed the trolls.

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NutsInNY
Jun 12, 09 9:28 AM CDT

I'll take Chairman Barry's pragmatic and articulate overtures to Muslim moderates over Bush's counterproductive and ill-conceived "axis of evil" type rhetoric... Divide-and-conquer beats make-them-all-hate-us any day. And we saw how well Bush's approach worked out: Mission Not Accomplished. Reply

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godawgs
Jun 12, 09 11:59 AM CDT

Yeah because things are so bright and rosey now huh? everyone is just lining up to be our friend. When we learn that some countries or groups of people just don't like American then we can move on. For some it is not going to matter what we do or how we approach them, we are just not going to play nice with each other.

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NutsInNY
Jun 12, 09 3:11 PM CDT

You must be a hoot at parties, godawgs: 'I ain't gonna try 'n' meet no new people because for some of 'em it ain't gonna matter what I do or how I approach 'em, so why even bother?'

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ClingingToHope
Jun 12, 09 9:35 AM CDT

Prowlerzee, great comment. You know that if anyone said anything about Michelle Obama, Hillary Clinton, Chelsea Clinton, or Nancy Pelosi that even remotely resembled the vile remarks that Letterman made about Sarah Palin and her daughters, the liberals on these boards would be even nuttier than they usually are. NOW and every other liberal group would be up in arms. Look what happened to Don Imus for a stupid off the cuff remark. Letterman's "jokes" were written in advanced and probably reviewed several times before he said them on his show. And his apology was even worse than the original "jokes". I hope the next time he takes a plane flight, the flight attendants chuck him out the emergency exit in flight. Fact: liberals support our right to free speech, but only when it agrees with their skewed view of the world. Reply

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AnnieChrist
Jun 12, 09 10:27 AM CDT

NoNuts, I would never suppress your right to free speech. I spend half my day laughing at the comments posted here by you, rifran, rightthing, coronaK, prowlerz and the other members of America's idiot class. Comedy Central has nothing quite as entertaining as you guys.

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Doctor_Zaius
Jun 12, 09 6:51 PM CDT

Annie, If I could plus that one more than once I would.

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newzjunkie
Jun 12, 09 9:06 PM CDT

Why is it so harsh on this board? If your opinion differs from the rest you are an idiot or a right wingers or whatever. What about people who are not right or left... can we give our opinions without being targeted and stupid or Bush lovers and other cruel remarks. NoNuts has the same opinion as millions of Americans.

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Uptik
Jun 13, 09 8:20 AM CDT

Because it's what has been done by the right wing for 8 years. Remember actors and singing artists who spoke out their objections to a president and a war and had their patriotism questioned and their carreers threatened. If you want to debate that's fine but BS bullying tactics of the past will be met with vehemence.

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OriginalMike007
Jun 13, 09 9:46 AM CDT

As if it were only the right wing that threw metaphorical feces at their opponents. The liberals spat vitriol at the Bush administration over anything and everything they could. Warranted or not. Ridiculous or serious. Both side's behavior is despicable. It echos down to this board and other places everywhere. As go the leaders so go the followers.

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sache
Jun 12, 09 9:35 AM CDT

Kraut is an ass. Like the rest of the ultra right he suffers from excessive bitterness. Obama's winning upset their "divine right to govern" mind set. The idiots need to grow up ,stop throwing hissy fits, and realize the America they once thought they owned is changing. People are tired of these clueless whiners. Reply

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Robert_Dada
Jun 12, 09 9:36 AM CDT

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SBS
Jun 12, 09 5:02 PM CDT

RD Don't know why your comment was flagged. It's not nearly as abusive as some I've seen. You got low balled.

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Doctor_Zaius
Jun 12, 09 6:53 PM CDT

"Charles Krauthammer would know all about twisting history. He's been doing it for years in his editorials. I sometimes like to read them because I have a perverse interest in insane fiction." - Robbert_Dada. I couldn't agree more.

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ClingingToHope
Jun 12, 09 9:57 AM CDT

As stated in my first post here, the vitriolic liberal/socialist/marxist/fascist followers of Chairman Barry can stand no criticism. He is PERFECT! And how DARE anyone to criticize him!! HE IS GOD! (Even though he might not be an American citizen; let's see how the libs go off on this one! LOL! Just produce a real BIRTH CERTIFICATE instead of spending a million+ dollars to NOT produce a real BIRTH CERTIFICATE.) Reply

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Robert_Dada
Jun 12, 09 10:02 AM CDT

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NutsInNY
Jun 12, 09 10:16 AM CDT

Robert_Dada: Ignore this if it's out of line, but I would encourage you to choose your battles wisely. You dignify people when you debate them, and anyone who refers to "vitriolic liberal/socialist/marxist/fascist followers of Chairman Barry" is nothing more than a human cartoon who is suffering on the margins of American society these days -- thankfully. Respectfully, NiNY

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Robert_Dada
Jun 12, 09 10:20 AM CDT

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NutsInNY
Jun 12, 09 10:38 AM CDT

Point taken, exactly the reason I want the KKK, e.g., to be able to speak publicly, to let people *see*... However, it's a question of balance; when you keeping wrangling with such folks, it doesn't expose them in any profound way as much as it inspires the kind of juvenile, sociopathic noise posted below -- the puny comments from iloveobama and Rickrolld.

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Robert_Dada
Jun 12, 09 11:10 AM CDT

Oh I absolutely agree with you NiNY but it's my very last day here at the office; I already have everything transitioned and now I'm just sitting here playing with my conservative pets.

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Doctor_Zaius
Jun 12, 09 6:54 PM CDT

I criticize him many times where I think it is warranted. You're just too blind, too stupid to notice and too consumed by ridiculous false claims. I don't mind if you despise is policy but give it up already on the phony birth certificate (and similar false claims). It really makes you look like an ass. Robert_Dada

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Doctor_Zaius
Jun 12, 09 6:55 PM CDT

take no offense NutsInNY and I realize I won't change this cretin's mind. However, I enjoy dragging him through the 'market square' of ideas so people can see (and enjoy) our Newser Village Idiot. Robert_Dada

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OriginalMike007
Jun 13, 09 9:42 AM CDT

The saddest thing is that Robert_Dada thinks his vitriolic, foul language filled, and generally offensive ad-hominid attacks are "dragging him (NOTNutsinPA) through the 'market square' of ideas". Calling people names is not debating. Presenting a counter argument is. Try that instead.

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warhead
Jun 13, 09 3:27 PM CDT

OM, it's like getting a mule's attention - sometimes you really HAVE to hit him over the head with a 2X4. Nnipa has a long history of vitriol and a total lack of desire to follow rational argument or abide by the normal rules of civilized discussion. We can't ban him, so we just don't let him get away with it. I would agree that it would be wonderful if everybody played nice, but it strikes me you're more than a little one-sided in your condemnations.

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armyvet
Jun 12, 09 10:20 AM CDT

I love OBAMA!!! Obama is Jesus!!! Reply

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Robert_Dada
Jun 12, 09 10:21 AM CDT

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logothete
Jun 12, 09 7:04 PM CDT

As Robert Dada said : Obama is a real man (with good points and bad points). Jesus is a myth.

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newzjunkie
Jun 12, 09 9:11 PM CDT

robertdada, you are a scary person.... but that is how you like it. It isn't your words that are scary, it's the egocentric person behind the words.

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OriginalMike007
Jun 13, 09 10:15 AM CDT

Wow, the first time I have ever voted up a Robert_Dada statement. He didn't even swear at anybody!!!

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armyvet
Jun 12, 09 10:23 AM CDT

Hes jesus to me!! If he lets me live for free, hes jesus!!! Reply

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Robert_Dada
Jun 12, 09 10:34 AM CDT

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Doctor_Zaius
Jun 12, 09 6:56 PM CDT

You are a buffoon. I think it's past your bedtime now. Robert_Dada

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Rickrolld
Jun 12, 09 10:25 AM CDT

Obama is the anti christ. Reply

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Rickrolld
Jun 12, 09 10:27 AM CDT

Wait Roberta_Dada could very well be the antichrist Reply

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Robert_Dada
Jun 12, 09 10:33 AM CDT

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Doctor_Zaius
Jun 12, 09 6:57 PM CDT

You flatter me but no I am not the Antichrist, because like the Christ, the Antichrist doesn't exist either. Robert_Dada

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Rickrolld
Jun 12, 09 10:37 AM CDT

Hey Roberta you really got tag teamed yesterday. Serves you right. You never let anybody else state their opinion without wrongly criticizing the shit out of them. Reply

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Robert_Dada
Jun 12, 09 10:46 AM CDT

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Rickrolld
Jun 12, 09 10:53 AM CDT

Temporary huh? Does that mean your gonna get a job or soak up the welfare you already receive. You are on this site all day long every day. You cant possibly be working.

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Robert_Dada
Jun 12, 09 11:00 AM CDT

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Doctor_Zaius
Jun 12, 09 7:01 PM CDT

I hate to disappoint you but yes I have a full time job that is in the process of winding down due to merger activity. I am somewhat between jobs right now, giving me the luxury to stick a bug up your ass from time to time. Plus I'm extremely adept at multi-tasking but you might not know what that is so I'll let you research it. But alas, I've already lined up my next career and start in a little over a week and yes, I won't have as much time to post on here - probably not at all except for the occasional weekend. Robert Dada

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ClingingToHope
Jun 12, 09 10:43 AM CDT

Roberta, asking for a real birth certificate is not a ridiculous, false claim. Answer the question: Why spend $1 million+ to prevent presenting a birth certificate (as opposed to a certificate of live birth) rather than just presenting the birth certificate and being done with it? I don't know that Chairman Barry is not an American citizen, but you can be sure as hell there is something amiss; and you won't answer that question because you get tingles up your leg when the Chairman speaks from the teleprompter while he steals the freedoms of you, your children, your grandchildren, and your great grandchildren. Reply

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Robert_Dada
Jun 12, 09 10:56 AM CDT

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Doctor_Zaius
Jun 12, 09 6:58 PM CDT

In October 2008, a federal judge dismissed the complaint over the birth certificate and in March 2009, a similar complaint was dismissed by a U.S. District Court judge. It's time to give up your fairy tales and try to find something better to pin on him. You see, you have lost and it's time to get over it now. Robert Dada

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fancygapva
Jun 12, 09 10:54 AM CDT

I'm a liberal. I voted for Obama for President though, not for Messiah. I find the tendancy of many to diefy Obama very disturbing. I am relieved to have an intelligent person in office. I understand his overtures to the Muslim world. If the President of Iran made a speech in which he said that he agreed that Nuns had the right to wear a habit (quite similar to wearing a headscarf) would we be indignant? If women grow up in a culture who are we, from another culture, to assume that some of them at least don't want to live as that culture decrees. For centuries women in the West were oppressed. Some still are. Western WOMEN fought their way out from under oppression. Somebody from another country didn't GIVE it to them. We do not have the right to dictate governance nor culture nor religious values to others. As soon as we try, they will resist. That was what Obama was trying to say, as I understand it. Reply

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godawgs
Jun 12, 09 12:02 PM CDT

Nuns don't get the shit beat of them for not wearing their habits.

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OriginalMike007
Jun 13, 09 10:46 AM CDT

fancygapva, Thank you for your intelligent and thoughtful response to this story. A breath of fresh air on the newser posts. There is often much confusion between cultural differences and ethics. Yes there are differences between cultures. Some cultures bury their dead, others burn them...But there are also ethics that transcend cultural distinctions. Beating, stoning or maiming women for not wearing their hats correctly is wrong for anyone and everyone. You speak of what women of that culture want, but how can they make a choice if they are forced to remain ignorant by being denied education and forced to remain strictly in line with all that culture decrees by threat of maiming, torture or death?

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ClingingToHope
Jun 12, 09 11:09 AM CDT

Robert_Dada, the complaint was dismissed b/c the judge did not believe that the complainant had a legitimate concern. It had nothing to do with the birth certificate, per se. Again, why not just present a birth certificate and be done with any controversy? Are you not able to answer that question? Reply

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Robert_Dada
Jun 12, 09 11:38 AM CDT

Yes and those are the operative words: "legitimate concern". As for the certificate, only a minority of whack jobs like you actually continue to believe it's an issue so I'm not surprised it's being ignored. It's called setting the right priorities and agenda - not that you would know anything about that.

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Shannonals
Jun 12, 09 11:15 AM CDT

Are you nutcases still talking about the so-called birth ceritifcate theory? Reply

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ClingingToHope
Jun 12, 09 11:36 AM CDT

Shannonais, call it a theory if you like. Why not just show the "birth certificate" instead of spending over $1 million to not show it. Explain to me how that makes sense. I bet you can't b/c you have the Chairman Obama Teleprompter tingles running up your leg. I DARE you to answer my question without a stupid non-answer like what you just posted.

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warhead
Jun 12, 09 12:40 PM CDT

PAnutcase - would you care to document that million dollars? Receipts from the Obama campaign or verified White House expenditures will do. Oh, and don't try to palm off bank records or Freemen Liberty Militia Nation of God blogs, or newspaper notices; since you birthers claim they don't mean a thing. Only original, stamped, notarized (by a Republican notary) documents signed by Obama himself will be accepted.

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Derni
Jun 12, 09 11:30 AM CDT

Perhaps KC-didn't take his antidepressants today? He's a real downer-now I know why he went into psychology in the 1st place to solve his problems-perhaps he's lealous of all the attention Obama gets-back into therapy? Ansd lets do approval ratings on the media Reply

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ClingingToHope
Jun 12, 09 11:34 AM CDT

Robert_Dada. FYI. I support your right to free speech and it was not me who flagged any of your comments. I appreciate the discourse provided by Newser, and as long as no one is using profanity or is disrespectful, then everything is ok. Reply

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Robert_Dada
Jun 12, 09 11:42 AM CDT

I am glad all my comments were flagged, no doubt by one or more of the conservatives on here. I love it because they proclaim their freedoms will be taken away by Obama yet they make feeble attempts to suppress my postings. This is yet another priceless example of their hypocrisy. I have them trained really well it seems! :)

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SBS
Jun 12, 09 5:07 PM CDT

RD I agree with NNIP. Hopefully your new job will go well and you will be able to continue to comment when things settle down.

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Doctor_Zaius
Jun 12, 09 7:03 PM CDT

I reposted them for you RD.

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Robert_Dada
Jun 12, 09 8:01 PM CDT

Thank you my good Doctor Zaius. I noticed right away as I reviewed this thread. I owe you one.

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Robert_Dada
Jun 12, 09 8:02 PM CDT

Thanks SBS. I appreciate the kind words.

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kokuaguy
Jun 12, 09 1:41 PM CDT

So it seems the procedure for "flagging" can be easily abused. Shouldn't it be changed? Reply

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Robert_Dada
Jun 12, 09 1:59 PM CDT

Nah. In the words of the holy fraud, "Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do."

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logothete
Jun 12, 09 2:13 PM CDT

And so long as they have NO power, I might just forgive them.

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Rickrolld
Jun 12, 09 2:08 PM CDT

Nope seems like your comments are getting removed because your an idiot. Reply

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logothete
Jun 12, 09 2:11 PM CDT

So, I guess now we know who did it.

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Robert_Dada
Jun 12, 09 3:57 PM CDT

Like we didn't know who was doing it all day. ;) And Dickrolld: It's 'you're', not 'your', you idiot.

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Doctor_Zaius
Jun 13, 09 7:58 AM CDT

'"Your" an idiot'...priceless.

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PaleRider
Jun 13, 09 8:35 PM CDT

It's getting easier to pick out the duplicate accounts.

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armyvet
Jun 12, 09 2:52 PM CDT

I'm ready for socialism, hell we basically have it now. The government owns our banks and our auto companies. I'm just waiting for my share of "spreading the wealth" so I don't have to work anymore. Reply

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Robert_Dada
Jun 12, 09 3:57 PM CDT

You are about to have a very long wait.

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kansas1946
Jun 12, 09 4:44 PM CDT

Just sour grapes from the right. Nothing new here. Sounds like this writer listens to Rush more than he watches the news though. No surprise there either. Reply

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SPH
Jun 12, 09 5:49 PM CDT

Boy, the conservative from Krauthammer to those on this site sure do need some new talking points....."messiah, birth-certificate, socialist, Muslim, apologist"...Please something new..... Reply

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Doctor_Zaius
Jun 12, 09 6:46 PM CDT

Krauthammer, the moron, twists reality. Reply

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PaleRider
Jun 12, 09 7:25 PM CDT

As is the current trend on Newser, the more negative a number a poster gets, the more truthful the post may be. Then you have the usual suspects with their 5-6 accounts that "plus" themselves. Reply

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logothete
Jun 12, 09 8:23 PM CDT

God, Rider - do you never face reality? You're a tiny little voice howling inanities in the face of a hurricane. The country has rejected you and your bullshit. Get over it.

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warhead
Jun 12, 09 8:26 PM CDT

To quote Tushie Limpball's minions: "ditto,Logo, ditto!"

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Doctor_Zaius
Jun 13, 09 8:01 AM CDT

In your feeble grasp of the situation you can not believe that you are not the majority way of thinking, so you plod along defiantly chewing your fingernails. But deep down you know there are more of us than there are of you.

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PaleRider
Jun 13, 09 8:37 PM CDT

We will see about that in a few years.

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logothete
Jun 13, 09 9:20 PM CDT

I'm sure we will. Don't hold your breath.

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radnip
Jun 17, 09 4:07 AM CDT

Ah ha! Two new labels: Elitist, Predator/Pedophile, Messiah, Chairman Mao only dreamed of having his power, Unpatriotic (=unAmerican), Liberal (=unAmerican), terrorist, Socialist, Fascist, Communist, Marxist, says the same things as Fidel Castro, Muslim, Community Organizer, Racist, anti-Jewish, Totalitarian dictator, Anti-Christ, Leninist, Stalinist, and now misogynist and God! Reply

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