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House votes tomorrow on measure to cut greenhouse gases

By John Johnson| Posted Jun 25, 09 12:35 PM CDT|

(Newser) – Al Gore is engaging in phone diplomacy today as the House prepares to vote on a landmark climate bill tomorrow. Original plans called for the former VP to appear in person, but Nancy Pelosi says lawmakers are close enough to an agreement that it's not necessary. Others offer a less optimistic take, telling the Hill the vote is so close, Pelosi needs Gore to wheedle recalcitrant Democrats one by one rather than wasting time traveling.

The White House also is joining in the last-minute push to stave off defectors on the bill, which would require the US to cut greenhouse gas emissions 17% by 2020 and 80% by the next century. Republicans complain it amounts to an energy tax because it will raise prices, at least in the short term, the AP reports.

Al Gore speaks at the World Business Summit on Climate Change in Copenhagen, Denmark, in May. (AP Photo/POLFOTO, Tariq Mikkel Khan)

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doingtherightthing
Jun 25, 09 1:03 PM CDT

Al Gore humping Pelos's leg for his secret agenda: More money in his coffers for big Al. Now your energy bills will go up as much as $1500 a year. Mark these people for what they really are: Thieves.....if congress passes this bill you can blame your increased energy costs on those who voted Yes........... Reply

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Clarke
Jun 25, 09 1:18 PM CDT

The number I hear is more like $3000 per year.

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JonmarkP
Jun 26, 09 3:05 AM CDT

If we cut carbon emissions, your energy bill will go up $300,000 per year. That's a fact, because I heard it on Fox News. But nuclear power is so clean and efficient that electricity would be free if we'd just build 1,000 new reactors.

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DeniseVB
Jun 25, 09 1:07 PM CDT

Bill Clinton didn't help Terry McAuliffe in Virginia's Dem primary. Terry came in last despite Clinton filling up answering machines with his robocalls....gack. Reply

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Reader65069154
Jun 25, 09 1:12 PM CDT

Can't Al work the phones to release the two "spies" from North Korea that work for his company? Reply

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doingtherightthing
Jun 25, 09 1:54 PM CDT

if Big Al had any decency he'd be working the phones for the girls release. Al is for Big Al.........our new Capone.........I don't need them girls, throw'em under the bus! Anyone want to work for this guy?

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2-bits
Jun 25, 09 3:26 PM CDT

rightthing: 1) Do you think that he and his organization have not been working for their journalists release and 2) Do you think it would really really make a difference?

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beatmastermcfly
Jun 25, 09 3:55 PM CDT

yeah 2-bits is right. they're in prison in north motherfucking korea, not the easiest lace to spring someone from prison.

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freethemall
Jun 25, 09 1:19 PM CDT

Ain't gonna happen, in spite of (or because of) Al Gore's support. People are quickly becoming aware (or think they are) of the hoax that liberals, aided by the main stream media, are attempting to perpetrate on this last bastion of free enterprise that is United States of America. There is no global warming, or if there is, it is a natural occurrence, not caused not caused by any human activity. This is just a liberal scheme to raise taxes, and destroy our way of life. (this is the argument those who have a vested interest in the status quo make; I don't buy it, but the majority of the uninformed, or misinformed public, probably will.) Reply

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Clarke
Jun 25, 09 1:55 PM CDT

I am trying to follow your post...are you saying that you do not believe global warming is caused (if it exists) by human activity (as it appears you say in the beginning)....or are you saying you believe that the majority of us are misinformed and it is real? I got confused at the end.

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freethemall
Jun 25, 09 2:29 PM CDT

I'm inclined to believe it is real, and human caused. I was attempting sarcasm. On the other hand, I will not close my mind to the possibility that I could be mistaken; in fact it would be good news if I am, since I don't believe there is the political will to take meaningful measures to combat global warming.

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freethemall
Jun 25, 09 11:45 PM CDT

Before my retirement in April of 2007. I worked in the Environmental Department for a mining company. Most of my superiors were environmental engineers. As such, they had an agenda, which was to protect the interest of the mining company they worked for. Nuff said?

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doingtherightthing
Jun 25, 09 2:37 PM CDT

Clarke follow the money trail. Al Gore stands to make beyond millions for this approval. GE is just one company on the sidelines with projects ready to go that will make them millions. The science community is at odds with Gore about Global Warming. That leaves the undecided like you. Do you believe Gore or do you believe global warming........I'd say neither.........its a trick to take money from you, and me, and anyone else that uses energy. They've got there hands in your pockets........ Reply

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Clarke
Jun 25, 09 2:55 PM CDT

I am not undecided about anything. I believe that if global warming is occurring (debateable, because the earth has been cooling for the past 10 years) but IF it is occurring, it is the natural cycle. The earth has had warming trends and cooling trends for its entire history. The patterns do not tend to differ by much. At this moment we are on the high end which quite unsurprisingly matches the last high water mark thousands of years ago (forgive me, I forget when it was exactly, but I think in the 20,000 to 25,000 year range, but only because that would make the last major ice age, which ended some 10,000 years ago the mid-point). No, I read too many science journals and attend too many seminars (I am an environmental engineer by education and trade) to buy the alarmist viewpoint. I speak to experts, if not on a weekly basis, a monthly basis. And the sad thing is they are frustrated because the majority of the American public get their science facts from mainstream media, and the mainstream media refuses to report on dissenting views, and if they do report on them, they belittle them. And the American public only listens to the mainstream news.

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2-bits
Jun 25, 09 8:22 PM CDT

Clarke, in the last climate change debate, you said you were an engineer. Now you say you are an environmental engineer. Why didn't you mention this then. It certainly would have given you more credibility. http://www.newser.com/story/62189/climate-change-not-humans-killed-mammoths.html

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kokuaguy
Jun 25, 09 8:30 PM CDT

If Gore can make a profit helping the US to free itself of its addiction to oil purchased from dictators who hate us what's wrong with that? Do you believe in free enterprise for everyone but Democrats?

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freethemall
Jun 25, 09 5:49 PM CDT

I think rightthing meant to be addressing me instead of Clarke. Following the money causes me to be inclined to believe in human caused global warming. Those with an interests in maintaining the status quo, and are therefore able to convince themselves that nothing need be done about it, far out number those who would profit monetarily if steps were taken to reduce the threat of global warming, Reply

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2-bits
Jun 25, 09 11:49 PM CDT

rightthing and corona_king have one more thing in common: They don't slow down long enough to make sure they are replying to the right person.

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Amber
Jun 25, 09 6:09 PM CDT

Reading so many post above if does nothing else it confirms my thoughts that the human race as a whole is to damned stupid to survive as a species, they can't concentrate on a real issue without getting in a pi$$ing contest over something totally unrealted to whatever the original cause might have been. Be glad to see it gone honestly......................... Reply

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freethemall
Jun 25, 09 7:15 PM CDT

Politics has been defined as a struggle for power and influence in society. That most assuredly means a pi$$ing contest. Get a clue! I'm tempted to add: and that includes you morons who thumbs up her comment, but that would just cause a lot of anger to be directed at me.

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doingtherightthing
Jun 25, 09 7:04 PM CDT

Global warming is a lie pure and simple. Al Gore is working the congress to get his agenda passed by Pelosi whose leg he is humping. If you want to jump on board with this be my guest but you'll pay for stupidity while Al is running to the bank with your money........ Reply

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Newser001
Jun 25, 09 9:35 PM CDT

So your answer, do nothing...? Keep doing the same thing... Forget energy independence... Forget economies... Forget CO2 levels, acid rain, rising sea levels, etc... Keep handing over trillions dollars to people who hate us. WE don't have enough oil to even satisfy our own needs! We consume 25% of the world's energy, yet represent less than 5% of the world's population. How long do you think this can continue? China and India's economies are growing logarithmically and they're going to out strip us in oil and energy consumption. There isn't enough. Just brilliant. Have you been fvcking Sanford again? What intellect. You think Gore's goal is only to make money and screw the world. You probably can't see past your own shoes, let alone, your own dick. Have you given any thought as to what if you're wrong, genius? Then what? YOU should stop humping Jesus, Limbaugh and the GOP's legs.

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Clarke
Jun 26, 09 12:28 PM CDT

Newser, you want energy independence? How about drill our oil now while working towards a reliable renewable energy source. Nobody said don't advance our technology and work towards these means. As for rising CO2 levels, do you know what the percentage of Co2 is in our air? Try 0.03%. Its not a significant amount. As for rising sea levels, they rise and fall naturally. If they are rising due to global warming caused by the natural cycle of the earth, then is it a problem? For us, perhaps, but are you suggesting we interfere purposely with earth's process? As for your numbers...we consume 25% of the world's energy yet represent 5% of the world's population, these numbers have no correlation. We use on annum 25% of the amount of oil used in the whole world. Okay. How much untapped oil do we have in our country? If we drill every available site, and in 3 years have that flowing at full capacities at our refineries, do we have enough to sustain ourselves? The answer is yes. You throw out numbers that do not mean anything. If there is enough oil in the world to sustain the world at current levels for 1,000 years, and we use 25% of it currently (and we are going to keep this constant for my model), then we need 250 years worth of oil in this country. IF we only have 100 years worth in our soil, then we have a century to create reliable renewable energy. Now from what I have read we are about 30 years away from being able to totally move away from petroleum as an energy source (we will always use it for plastics, where its real value is). So we have enough oil to sustain us, period. As for the vulgar language, why? Do you really need to use it? Did it help your argument?

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freethemall
Jun 25, 09 7:22 PM CDT

Having given rightthing a thumbs down for his comment, I am asked if he is being offensive. I'm tempted to say: No, he's just being stupid, but that would be offensive Reply

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Snarfeh
Jun 25, 09 9:31 PM CDT

Well, it's about time somebody ran to the bank with my money besides a damn Bush, Cheney, Rove, Murdoch, et al. Why, Big Oil has been making record profits during a recession! PS - Free, I totally caught your sarcasm in the earlier post... Reply

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freethemall
Jun 25, 09 10:21 PM CDT

I appreciate that, Snarfeh. I was wondering if anybody did.

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Clarke
Jun 26, 09 12:30 PM CDT

And where does it say that companies should not be trying for record profits every quarter? Seriously, isn't the idea of owning a business be to make money? Do you know who leads in the research and development of new energy sources? Try big oil! Do you know where they get the money for r&d? Try out of their profits. See how this works?

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JonmarkP
Jun 26, 09 3:28 AM CDT

Anyone who doesn't understand that human-caused atmospheric CO2 is hundreds of times higher than it's ever been in the history of the planet, and that this is causing a significant rise in ocean temperatures, and that there will be dire consequences for the planet if this trend isn't reversed quickly is woefully lacking in knowledge that is readily available even to lay persons. Anyone (like wrongthing) who claims the scientific community is at odds with Gore's position is simply a liar. Gore, as always, is irrelevant. The really big money, coal and oil, are lined up AGAINST doing what must be done. Reply

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psycada
Jun 26, 09 8:45 AM CDT

Humans cannot possibly cause more C02 emissions than the earth does on its own. Volcanoes spew far more of it that we can possible compete with. This is a cyclical event, and the Earth will cleanse itself of it's problem long before it is in jeopardy.

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Clarke
Jun 26, 09 12:41 PM CDT

See, no, no, no!!!! the science does not correlate atmospheric CO2 to a rise in ocean temperatures. hell, atmosphere and ocean do not intermix. If you ever look a the graph's showing the temperatures throughout history (and I am not going to explain how they get this data again...done it too much and I know YOU, JONMARK, have seen it), and look at CO2 levels throughout history (data going back millions of years), you will know that the earth has a natural cycle, and as the planet's temperature rises, so does the CO2 levels. Not the other way around. Higher temperature = higher CO2, not the other way around. But you are right, we are producing higher CO2 levels than ever before, but the increase in the actual levels do not correlate to the amount we are putting into the air, so the question really is where is this CO2 going? And to what affect. By accepting this as all done and proven we are not asking the right questions or presumably doing the right research here (actually, we are, but that never gets written about by the mainstream media.) And I am sorry Jonmark, but I have listened to too many people in the scientific community who started out on Gore's side only to back off and ask that the scientific community slow down and relook at things because the data and the models just don't match up, and watch IPCC drop their doom and gloom forecasts, to believe that the whole of the community is with Gore's position as you claim. The villain is not coal and oil. There is no villain. There is a conspiracy though, and it starts with the Al Gore's of the world.

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Clarke
Jun 26, 09 12:43 PM CDT

psycada, the theories are not that we add more than the earth does, its how much MORE we add to the natural order of things. You are right, we add less, but how do you stop volcanoes (your example)? We don't. But that's not the real debate anyway. The question is does CO2 cause higher temperatures. The historic answer is NO. In actuality, higher temperatures cause higher CO2. But the global warming alarmists don't want you to know that little secret.

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riffran
Jun 26, 09 5:05 AM CDT

sorry ole chap...current concentration is approximately 384 ppm....estimated Cambrian age levels close to 7000 ppm approx 18 times less......and has decreased since then.... (a little cut and paste from Junk science) "Given that the late Ordovician suffered an ice age (with associated mass extinction) while atmospheric CO2 levels were more than 4,000ppm higher than those of today (yes, that's a full order of magnitude higher), levels at which current 'guesstimations' of climate sensitivity to atmospheric CO2 suggest every last skerrick of ice should have been melted off the planet, we admit significant scepticism over simplistic claims of small increment in atmospheric CO2 equating to toasted planet. Granted, continental configuration now is nothing like it was then, Sol's irradiance differs, as do orbits, obliquity, etc., etc. but there is no obvious correlation between atmospheric CO2 and planetary temperature over the last 600 million years, so why would such relatively tiny amounts suddenly become a critical factor now" That being said...Pollution is BAD BAD BAD....Al Bloat has the right idea in general...but the politics behind his actions are as corrupt as can be Reply

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