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Gates to Black People: 'Don't Step Onto That Porch!'

By Harry Kimball| Posted Jul 23, 09 12:30 PM CDT|

(Newser) – Henry Louis Gates is upset about his arrest, in which he sees wide implications and a potential "teachable moment." The Harvard professor talks it over with the Daily Beast in the person of Elizabeth Gates, who happens to be his daughter:

On the police: "I’m glad that this lady called 911. I hope right now if someone is breaking into my house she’s calling 911 and the police will come! I just don’t want to be arrested for being black at home!"

On the racial issue: "If I had been white this incident never would have happened. He would have asked at the door, 'Excuse me, are you OK? Because there are two black men around here try’na rob you.'"
On racial profiling: "I was cast by him in a narrative and he didn't know how to get out of it, and then when I demanded—which I did—his name and badge number, I think he just got really angry."
On lessons learned: "I think it's incumbent upon me to not let it drop—not to sweep it under the carpet—but to use this as a teaching event for the Cambridge police and police in general and for black people—don't step out of your house. Don't step onto that porch! You're vulnerable."

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Henry Louis Gates Jr. center, the director of Harvard University's W.E.B. DuBois Institute for African and African American Research, is arrested at his home in Cambridge, Mass. (AP Photo)

Cambridge Police Sgt. James Crowley. (AP Photo)

Gates' booking photo. (AP Photo)

Dr. Henry Louis Gates Jr. looks on before a panel discussion on CNN?s live show 'Moment of Truth: Countdown to Black in America 2,' Wednesday, July 22, 2009 in New York. (AP Photo/Frank Franklin II)

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Ioptout
Jul 23, 09 12:34 PM CDT

Gates is racist against white people... Reply

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Ioptout
Jul 23, 09 12:57 PM CDT

One of his neighbors reported him as breaking and entering, assuming this woman didn't know he was her neighbor. The police needed to identify him and make sure it was his house. @Shannonals would you want a burglar/rapist in your neighbors house and have the police walk away? Of course not. Gates said above that he agreed with the woman and would want the same thing done. The reason he is making this an issue is because he is a black man who thinks the police treatment was influenced by him being black.

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Ioptout
Jul 23, 09 1:00 PM CDT

I would like to see a hundred thumbs down if at all possible. As long as you assume you get treatment just because someone is white and you are black YOU'RE A JUDGMENTAL RACIST. My dad is black and that is just stupid!

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MrsK
Jul 23, 09 1:08 PM CDT

Not only that, if he acted like an ass to the police and was arrested for disorderly conduct, it doesn't matter what color he was anyway. What a race baiter.

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Unaffiliated
Jul 23, 09 12:35 PM CDT

I wasn't there, so I don't know. But I just can't help but think Mr. Gates picked this fight by flying off the handle. If he had remained calm, he wouldn't have been arrested. Most people don't know that he wasn't arrested for breaking and entering. He was arrested for disorderly conduct, and according to the police report, that was after the officer warned him several times to calm down. Reply

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Shannonals
Jul 23, 09 12:47 PM CDT

Gates was arrested for disorderly conduct outside of his home, after the Officer asked him to step outside during their incident inside the household, because you can't arrest a man for disorderly conduct in his own home. The officer shoud never have arrested him, and even though Gates flew off the handle, upon verification of his identification, (after the second request by the Officer), the Officer shouild have left verus asking him to step outside of the house.

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Unaffiliated
Jul 23, 09 1:10 PM CDT

Fair enough. I still think Gates could have kept a cooler head.

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Reader65069154
Jul 23, 09 12:37 PM CDT

This man has singlehandedly stolen the limelight from Obama and hi's speech last night. I may not remember any talking point about health care reform, but I know the president thinks the Cambridge police acted stupidly. Reply

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Shannonals
Jul 23, 09 12:49 PM CDT

The President was incorrect in his statement about the the Cambridge Police Department. It wasn't the fault of the Department, it was the arresting Officer. Of course the media should haven't even asked him about this incident, don't they have more important questions to ask?

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Fondue
Jul 23, 09 12:56 PM CDT

I don't mind the media asking the question. Obama should have just said, our concern here right now is about health care reform - and moved on.

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kokuaguy
Jul 23, 09 2:41 PM CDT

Reader, you should get a ckeck-up for early onset Alzheimer's. I got mine. The President fanned the flames and helped create the distraction all by himself. He should have said "this time is for discussion of health care. Issues of racial injustice in America can be addressed when I have all he facts." Regarding the topic of this thread, I hope everyone reads the thread about Prof. Watkin's "battle of egos" statement. I'm with Watkins insofar as he's saying "keep Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson out of this." And that's about all he's saying, and I bet Gates would agree with most if not all of what Watkins is saying. No one is ever without blame. The film CRASH is great on this, and the book "The Race Card" which I have not read but which was discussed in at least one very good C-Span show should be required reading for all Americans. This is not like the case in La where the noose was hung in the tree on the high school campus and the principal let all hell break loose when he should have used a very teachable moment to keep all hell from breaking loose in a very predictable way. This is another teachable moment for America, and there's no way the President would have weighed in as he did if it were not clear that the Officers owe Prof. Gates an apology, no matter how big an ass he made of himself. They have a duty to serve and protect, and not to cause embarrassment and endless hassle and expense for their department by creating totally unnecessary public controversies. I applaud the Officer's statements to the media today, though I question the department's wisdom in allowing him to do interviews with talk radio, etc. I expect that the President will "clarify" and hopefully apologize for using the "S" word as he did. Not that all of us newsies are not used to it an a whole lot worse ... by the way, where is C-k? Did the flaggers succeed in getting her/him banned?

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Reader65069154
Jul 23, 09 3:17 PM CDT

@Kokuaguy: Looks like reality has proven you wrong. Media outlets are reporting Obama's presentation was flat and full of nothing different than what he's been selling the past few weeks. Now Harry Reid has torpedoed the bill until at least after the recess. As to all the other off-topic stuff you rambled about.. well, I got bored and stopped reading.

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polstroad
Jul 23, 09 1:09 PM CDT

Call me old fashioned but I will wait till I get the full story from both sides and from perhaps a judge. Will there be lawsuits involved? Now that would make the professor's case unless counter arguments prevailed. Reply

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Jayster999
Jul 23, 09 1:13 PM CDT

I only wish they had tazed his dumb ass when he picked a fight with the cops. This guy is the epitome of the self-important, racist mentality that stems from years of professional victimhood, entitlement and affirmative action dogma. Reply

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nick
Jul 23, 09 1:22 PM CDT

And you sound like the epitome of a bigot.

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wwwonderer
Jul 23, 09 1:29 PM CDT

Jayster I'm starting to think you are quite the racist. See when Ashley Todd accused a black man of assaulting her, it made the "Liberal Socialist Fascist Media" news. Turns out Ashley Todd was assaulted by Ashley Todd. What about the woman that claimed her car was stolen by a black man? And there are many more examples of black people being blamed for things they had no hand in doing, and the general public more than willing to believe it. Case in point: many HATE PRESIDENT OBAMA, and don't even believe he is an AMERICAN CITIZEN eligible to be President, no matter how many times you show a birth certificate. Is it that you REFUSE the recognize the past 150 years of The United States of America? Really?? And FYI there are many racists blacks and whites. I'll prolly get thumbed down for this, but RACISM is not the problem, it is the combination of RACISM and HATRED.

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mayo68
Jul 23, 09 2:02 PM CDT

Gates is an ignorant porch-monkey. "It's okay, I'm taking it back."

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Shannonals
Jul 23, 09 11:23 PM CDT

You have issues with people of color don't you Jayster999. I've noticed that anything that relates to people of color you always have a negative remark, even when the articles are positive.

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Reader60610265
Jul 26, 09 10:13 AM CDT

Jayster999 Here come the libs, you dared to disagree with them again .When you do your automaticly labled bigot or racaist . Anybody would have been taken away when you don't know to back off. Figth the battles you can win . your not going to win againest the police on the streets .

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polstroad
Jul 23, 09 1:17 PM CDT

[here at link is official p[olice report and here is summary]" Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates, a teacher of afro-American history and himself an afro-American, was arrested after he successfully broke into his own home at 1pm, despite it being clear to the arresting officer that he was the lawful resident. The arrest report was briefly made available by the Boston Globe newspaper, but became unavailable at its original location not long after. The Globe did not explained the removal. According to the report, Gates said "You don't know who you are dealing with." followed by "THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS TO BLACK MEN IN AMERICA!". http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Harvard_professor_Henry_Louis_Gates_arrest_report%2C_16_Jul_2009 According to the report, he was arrested for "disorderly conduct" after he continued to label one officer, who had left the house, a racis Reply

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nick
Jul 23, 09 1:25 PM CDT

The police report is the arresting officer's side of the story. Nothing else.

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lindamae
Jul 24, 09 1:27 AM CDT

The picture and the statements by the neighbors support what the cops said. The picture of Gates shows a man out of control. He reminds me of my 3 year old grandchild who would get himself into a snit and start to huff and puff.

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Bambi
Jul 23, 09 1:40 PM CDT

Few scenarios in life can be analyzed definitively before action is taken. Some 'generalizing' is necessarily parcel even to the sciences; 'estimating' probabilities where a sense of one possible truth or another must be acted on, but when truth cannot be known, or is unknowable. Instinctive prejudicing and generalizing in situations is almost a necessity in police work, so its a tall order to ask them to abandon it. It cannot be argued that their generalizing is proof of racism alone. There are statistics and experience backing up some of their ideas. A generalization about demographics and geography is not a prejudice against people, it is a sense of probability, which is what police decision makers must rely on. A certain amount of erring on the side of caution must be allowable for law enforcement. However, there is no excuse for mistreating people when they are suspects, and I believe this may be the real issue here. Police may seize whoever they genuinely suspect (with probable cause), however, all arrests should be made in proper etiquette, with deference to the rights of someone as though it is recognized that they may not be guilty. Any other attitude at the time of arrest is an affront--only a judge is given the right to 'treat' someone as guilty. I believe that the affront in the Gates case may be parcel to the stereotypically poor character of police in succumbing to a certain drunkenness in (a false sense of) their righteousness, power and authority during an arrest, but here, it is probably not a legislatable racial affront as may be made of it by the victim. Reply

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easterner
Jul 23, 09 1:42 PM CDT

"don't step out of your house. Don't step onto that porch! You're vulnerable." Yup this advice can be found on just about any defense lawyers website and on some law schools websites and it's good advice for ALL citizens not just black. Reply

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lindamae
Jul 24, 09 1:33 AM CDT

Cops have you step outside to check that you are not being held hostage. There have been cops shot to death in circumstances just like this. You don't take chances. It could have been a home invasion. We've buried a few cops recently and we shouldn't ask any more to take chances with their lives. Hindsight is 20/20 vision. At the time, no one knew who Gates was. He could have been a serial killer. Good police protocol should always be followed and a smart man will do so. Gates hasn't watched enough cops and robbers shows to know police protocol. Gates getting loud could have ended in a tragedy. A good cop won't make any judgment until the call is over. His life is at stake.

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newsrmandan
Jul 23, 09 1:46 PM CDT

Funny thing about all this is that Obama was making some real "strides" with his healthcare bit. I can't help but think he's glad for the diversion. Reply

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Timinator2K
Jul 23, 09 1:50 PM CDT

Gates now milking this for fun and profit...and a couple more minutes beyond his allotted 15. Reply

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Timinator2K
Jul 23, 09 2:05 PM CDT

Maybe Rev. Al Sharpton will have better luck trying to incite a race war over this incident than he did with the massive fraud situation of Tawana Brawley. Reply

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JonmarkP
Jul 23, 09 2:05 PM CDT

Don't you just KNOW how outraged the right wing zombies would be if a black cop had arrested Rush LImpballs for breaking into his own home, after showing ID? Of course this is about race, and white-cop ego. Good for Gates for holding his ground. The cop should lose his badge at a very minimum. Reply

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MSCXYZ
Jul 24, 09 4:51 PM CDT

That's not why he was arrested. Come on.

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Jayster999
Jul 23, 09 2:07 PM CDT

wwwonder: Ever hear of Tawana Brawley? The black girl who smeared herself with dog poop and claimed she was raped by a group of white teens? Turns out--she lied. Black folks lie too--what a revelation. I believe that Mr. Gates is being disingenuous. Is that really such a stretch? I am well aware of American history. I am also aware that many people hate Barry. I personally hate the politics of the man, not the man himself, although I do think that he is a socialistic nozzle. Reply

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Shannonals
Jul 23, 09 11:28 PM CDT

You have some serious issues Jayster999. Okay, if you want to select a person of color to reflect as being a liar, let's reverse it shall we. I know everyone recalls Susan Smith, the Mother who drowned and killed her own children just to be with a man. Claimed a Black man carjacked her vehicle and took her children, and naturally everyone assumed she was telling the truth. Even Fox news had to eat humble pie off of that story. It doesn't matter what color a person is, people lie all the time, whether you are White or Black.

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bunn16
Jul 23, 09 2:12 PM CDT

Some racist Mr Crowley is. He tried to resuscitate Mr Reggie Lewis (black Boston Celtics Star) with mouth-to mouth. I don't think a racist would have done that. Reply

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Mia
Jul 23, 09 2:44 PM CDT

Read the police report here: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0723092gates1.html Reply

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LiberalJesus
Jul 23, 09 3:56 PM CDT

SO now all the poster think when the poliuce tell you to bow down we should or we deserve to go to jail....Now who's in favor of a police state...I'd say the white people since we now have a black President. Dont want those darkies getting all uppity now do we! Reply

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Unaffiliated
Jul 23, 09 4:31 PM CDT

You take things to an unnecessary extreme.

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BlahBlahBlah
Jul 24, 09 12:32 AM CDT

An extremely unnecessary comment. If you are trying to be in favor of equality you are doing a poor job. The color of the Presidents skin is irrelevant.

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BlahBlahBlah
Jul 23, 09 7:04 PM CDT

I have to admit that I am finding the professor less and less credible. Being upset about an incident is one thing. Dragging it through the racial ringer is quite another. I think the facts in this case are now impossible to even disseminate. There is too much emotion and too many accusations flying around. The cop who arrested him has refused to engage in the mudslinging. Most likely out of fear from further reprisals. If his time of the force isn't over it is certainly tarnished for life. Reply

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martintb
Jul 23, 09 8:29 PM CDT

Perfectly worded and concise description of how I feel about this whole situation. Couldn't have wrote it better myself.

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sully4411
Jul 23, 09 7:04 PM CDT

ah but alas, if he were white, the story would be different! "Excuse me, are you OK? Because there is a white man and a black man around here try’na rob you" Reply

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Alexandria
Jul 23, 09 8:06 PM CDT

Oh my goodness. If you're trying to get into someone's house and you look kinda sketchy or the neighbor doesn't recognize you- regardless of race the police will still ask for ID. It's protocol. Stop pulling the race card Reply

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Shannonals
Jul 23, 09 11:45 PM CDT

Note that it wasn't a neighbor who called the Police Alexandria, just a woman passing by who saw two Black males entering a house. The neighbors of Gates have stood by him since this incident. Gates overreacted, but it was more than his ego that was bruised that day, hence the arrest

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Ioptout
Jul 24, 09 10:36 AM CDT

Show ID.... NEXT!

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lindamae
Jul 24, 09 1:23 AM CDT

What a pompous idiot! The picture taken by a neighbor showed the cops with their badges clearly on their shirts plus - it seemed - name tags. So, Gates's claim that he wanted that info but was refused is not true. He just looks so happy to have the spotlight on him. All he had to do was to walk out on to the porch so that the cop could be sure he wasn't being held hostage by some unseen perp, show his ID - perhaps his passport - and thank the cop for his quick action to protect his home. It had been robbed before which is why the door stuck. Plus - how long had he lived there? Did his driver's lic. have that address? The man handled the situation as if he was a 13 year old boy - not an intelligent man. His actions since then have made his actions even more suspect. Perhaps he was tired. It proves that education of a fool gives you an educated fool. I like his shows but I am ashamed of his behavior. Next time he needs a cop, let him protect himself. Reply

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radnip
Jul 31, 09 7:27 AM CDT

Just remember: Gates was arrested in his own home, on his own porch, for being loud. Let's repeat that: In his OWN HOME, for being loud. So what're people defending? That the police can come check on your home: Sounds ok. That the poilice can ask that you prove you live there: Sounds ok. That the police can insist you be polite to them: Hmm...Did not know not being polite to the police was a crime. Someone quote this crime, please. Or is it police policy to drag every homeowner indignant about being asked for ID in his own home down to the police station to cool down? Is THAT what people are defending. Just curious... Reply

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