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Angry Crowd Greets McCain at Ariz. Town Hall

Posted Aug 27, 09 10:53 AM CDT|

(AP) – John McCain met with an angry crowd at a town hall meeting about health care reform yesterday, sometimes having to fight to talk and telling one woman who wouldn't stop shouting that she had to leave. The senator hadn't yet opened the meeting to questions when one audience member continuously yelled over him. McCain had security escort her out, saying, "Goodbye, see ya."

When McCain began taking questions, one man angrily pointed at him and asked the senator why he deserves a better health care plan than him. "I'm trying to get it for you," McCain told him. "We'll do it for you. We'll make it affordable and available to you." Other audience members in the crowd of 2,000 told McCain about their medical problems, such as HIV and multiple sclerosis. McCain said he would fight for health care reform but reiterated his opposition to President Obama's public option proposal.

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Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., listens to a question from the crowd at a health care town hall meeting Wednesday, Aug. 26, 2009 in Phoenix. (Ross D. Franklin)

Fred Linsenmeyer, of Phoenix, tries to get his point across as he asks a question at a health care town hall meeting held by Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., Wednesday, Aug. 26, 2009 in Phoenix. (AP Photo/Ross D. Franklin)

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Realist
Aug 27, 09 10:55 AM CDT

Shampoo, rinse, repeat... At least the whackos are shouting at their own perceived leaders... Reply

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UrUndertaker
Aug 27, 09 10:59 AM CDT

Well, look at this...a Republican from the land of NO being yelled at. Good question McCain, why DO you deserve better health care than most Americans? Why has your party continued to be the Birther Party of NO......and don't stand there and lie, your party hasn't done squat Reply

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odowd80
Aug 27, 09 11:05 AM CDT

He actually said, "I'm trying to get it for you." How, exactly? McCain has never done anything for health care reform. Reply

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ruserious
Aug 27, 09 11:06 AM CDT

That was my first question. How, exactly, is he accomplishing this?

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Spudsy
Aug 27, 09 6:50 PM CDT

Several months on and no competing proposal from the Republicans. The party of no.

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BryanJ62
Aug 27, 09 11:09 AM CDT

I'm confused - Why the over the top outcry against Public Option? I don't understand. Reply

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Forderon
Aug 27, 09 11:24 AM CDT

Because it has the word "public" in it. The Dems, predictably, screwed up from the start by giving opponents ammo to turn it into a national shouting match about "socialism". Calling it "public option" and "government option" and "single-payer" only reinforces in the whackos' minds that it will lead to communism and gov't controlled Starbucks and confiscated guns (I guess they'd rather have insurance companies in charge trying to deny them care when they most need it). Just like with the stimulus bill, Obama should've taken charge and done it himself instead of handing it to the Dems, a party of born losers.

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Timinator2K
Aug 27, 09 11:37 AM CDT

Public Option will be used as a dumping ground by business enities who will drop their private health care providers...to increase profitability..which, in turn, will be sucked up by Big Brother. Basically, a corruption of a "compassionate" ideal.

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howdog1005
Aug 27, 09 12:28 PM CDT

because RUSH said its socialism, a govt takeover, at&t was dismantled years ago because they had a monopoly.So after new companies came in after a whlie at&t started buying them again, needless to say they are on the way to gaining more than before. but competition isnt good when youre the top dogs!

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howdog1005
Aug 27, 09 12:29 PM CDT

Besacuse rush said its socialism, damn sheep

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Snowleopard
Aug 27, 09 12:30 PM CDT

because they've made it out to be something it isn't (is a "government takeover")

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Unaffiliated
Aug 27, 09 11:10 AM CDT

I know McCain isn't liked by both wings of the political spectrum right now, but if you watch the video, he gives a terrific example of the way to disagree with someone in a calm, level-headed manner. Kudos to him for doing so. Too bad his campaign wasn't at all like that. Reply

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Corona_Kinq
Aug 27, 09 11:24 AM CDT

Thumbs up for that....I still think McCain would have been a fairly decent Presidential pick way back in 2000 :(

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Unaffiliated
Aug 27, 09 11:27 AM CDT

I'm right there with ya. He just couldn't make it through the primary. To do that this time, he moved himself farther away from the center and cozied up with the extremists in the party.

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Timinator2K
Aug 27, 09 11:39 AM CDT

He always wants to be the great compromiser...and compromise means eveybody loses. McCain is trying to save a very bad and deadly (literally) piece of (crap) legislation.

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Spudsy
Aug 27, 09 6:55 PM CDT

He couldn't get through the primaries in 2000 because of a campaign, BY REPUBLICANS, that said he was a traitor for his Air Force service in Vietnam. Nice party. So, anyone in the service still support the "tough on defense" party? If you do then you deserve phony wars to keep contractors rich.

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kirei_gaisuto
Aug 27, 09 11:11 AM CDT

Good on McCain for trying to answer the question like a person and not like a Palin following birther freak. I had a lot of respect for him before the election. Lost it when he started running those terrible campaign ads and was sexist enough to pick Palin, but I'm starting to gain it back. Reply

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DontLikeYou
Aug 27, 09 11:41 AM CDT

McCain attracts liberals like flies on cow dung.

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kirei_gaisuto
Aug 27, 09 11:51 AM CDT

I'm not a liberal. If you're gonna call somebody something, you should at least be right about it :)

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Rocket448
Aug 27, 09 11:18 AM CDT

This may sound bitter, but Mr. McCain has everything to lose and nothing to gain by getting angry at these constituents. After all, with his money, his houses, and his status, he has nothing in common with the people he meets in these gatherings. Its as if the lord of the manor is going about on his horse, waving at the serfs. "Trying to get it for you", can be translated as, "hell will freeze over before I get off the corporate teat." Reply

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Reader68389796
Aug 27, 09 11:23 AM CDT

I could never feel for Mc Cain after he introduced us to America's worst cancer of this century; Sarah Palin! Reply

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DontLikeYou
Aug 27, 09 11:40 AM CDT

You should have more respect for your next president.

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Timinator2K
Aug 27, 09 11:45 AM CDT

No. that would be our malignant and spreading PrezBHO cancer virus.

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Alexandria
Aug 27, 09 11:49 AM CDT

dontlikeyou and Timinator should be a two person version of The Stooges. Or maybe a real life version of Tweedle-Dee and Tweedle-Dum.

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Yourself
Aug 27, 09 12:08 PM CDT

dontlikeyou - you ask for respect for "your next president" yet you won't give the current one any? same goes to timinator. with that said, if she's the next president, then we're DEFINITLY screwed up as a country!

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QueenAlli
Aug 27, 09 12:11 PM CDT

@don'tlikeyou: I just threw up in my mouth after reading your comment. oops....there it goes again, excuse me...........

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ruserious
Aug 27, 09 12:15 PM CDT

Timinator, I must point out that cancer is not a virus. Please, if you're going to use life science metaphors, don't make a mockery of them.

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DontLikeYou
Aug 27, 09 11:40 AM CDT

///// Angry Crowd Greets McCain at Ariz. Town Hall ///// ------ Patriots, everyone of them. Reply

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schmidtkoff
Aug 27, 09 11:54 AM CDT

"McCain had security escort her out, saying, "Goodbye, see ya." his arrogance is appalling. he doesn't want health care for his constituents, or the american cxitizens at large. Reply

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RNail
Aug 27, 09 12:05 PM CDT

Every federal employee gets an absolutely awesome health care package. He is a Federal employee but that isn't much of an excuse. The problem with Public Option, BryanJ62 is that this country cannot afford it. We must understand that our nation is the equivalent of the 40 year old woman with 50,000 dollars worth of credit card debt, and now she is trying to by a new car on credit. The bottom line is she cannot afford it. And we cannot afford this, we are going to borrow another trillion dollars for this plan? For what? So in 30 years when China and everyone else who owns our debt decides to default on our loans we are stuck in a horrible situation where dollars are worth less than pesos. We cannot afford anything we do right now, and if debt was the only indication of true wealth then we are by far, the poorest nation in the world. We are just digging ourselves deeper and deeper into debt, and history is riddled with the carcasses of nations who have done exactly what we are doing right now. Reply

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howdog1005
Aug 27, 09 12:24 PM CDT

so can we afford to keep up the wasteful spending on people with inadequate healthcare. or how about if you really are sick and need insurance you cant get it because some person decides you will cost them more than you can make them. I understand your point, but we have to do something. usa ranks around 35 in healthcare- the richest- most powerful nation with mediocre healthcare a joke.kepp buying 30 million dollar jets that we wont use.

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Unaffiliated
Aug 27, 09 12:24 PM CDT

If only it were that simple, Nails. I read something in comments yesterday that makes a lot of sense to me, I think from sully. China and our foreign creditors will not call in all of our debts at the same time, because that would crash the dollar's value, thus reducing the amounts the would receive. What example historical carcasses can you offer to show your point?

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AnnieChrist
Aug 27, 09 12:39 PM CDT

You are equating the US debt to poverty. The country is far from broke, but it is like the miserly old man, living on handouts, only to find out after he dies that he had millions hidden in his mattress. The people promulgating the "we can't afford it" meme are the billionaires and corporations who don't want to do the most basic of all duties a citizen owes to their government, i.e. pay their share of taxes. When/if the tax code is ever again applied in a fair and just manner, the goverrnment will again be able to serve it's citizens. The 20th century was the "American Century," with this country having the most awesome and efficient economic engine ever seen on the planet, with participation by all, and benefits to all, because of it's progressive tax code. Unfortunately a gullible electorate bought into the republicans' voodoo economic policies and managed in 8 years to bring this economic engine to it's knees. If history is riddled with any carcasses, it is of governments that failed it's people, because it served the interests of the wealthy rather than that of the common people.

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cornelison
Aug 27, 09 1:05 PM CDT

Say that to a friend of yours if he/she gets cancer & the insurance company won't pay for treatment. Are you going to say to your friend, "Too bad, we have a deficit."

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chas_m
Aug 27, 09 2:36 PM CDT

RNail: we "can't afford" to spend money on our own people? Where were you when Bush decided to throw (literally) endless trillions towards two endless wars?? Hire private contractors to be a mercenary army?? Expand Medicare with an unpopular and unfunded trillion-dollar drug benefit??? Where were you?? Look, I may not agree with every line in every bill, but I think it's refreshing to see Obama at least trying to spend money HERE rather than throw it down the black hole of the middle east. American infrastructure, jobs, healthcare, education, energy ... now THAT is spending I can get behind. Pointless, illegal wars that don't accompllish anything and shred our values ... not so much.

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howdog1005
Aug 27, 09 12:18 PM CDT

These people are so dumb that they are showing up a republican rallies now, lol deserving. Reply

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Snowleopard
Aug 27, 09 12:29 PM CDT

I may not 100% agree with with his politics, but John McCain is a good man. Reply

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JonmarkP
Aug 27, 09 1:25 PM CDT

No, he's not a good man. He's a cowardly, lying, cheating two-faced son of a bitch trading on a fake POW status-he was the son of an Admiral, and treated as such. He should have taken Bush's head off in the 2000 primary, but he didn't have the balls.

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chas_m
Aug 27, 09 2:37 PM CDT

In 2000, you could have had me agreeing with that. But not only did he sell his soul to the evil party he belongs to ... he gave us Palin and NotJoe the NotaPlumber. I will *never* forgive him for this. Ever.

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Newser001
Aug 27, 09 12:42 PM CDT

Here's evidence, it getting entirely out of hand; If they're even shouting McCain down. Reply

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RNail
Aug 27, 09 12:45 PM CDT

Granted, I'm not saying we don't fix health care, because I cant afford it more than anyone else that's for sure so I'm all for fixing it, but there must be a smarter solution. If we can cut spending in other areas than it makes sense, however we cannot afford anything. Go watch the documentary I.O.U.S.A. and tell me you aren't at least a little bit perturbed. Then tell me you actually have enough faith in ANY politician to fix this problem. And maybe the world won't default on our loans but Im sure the just the threat of defaulting on our debt will make our government bend to the will of other nations, which is doom for us when it comes to things like trade agreements and tariffs. It is like a man borrowing money from a mobster he know he cant pay back. For instance, when the English wanted to take the Suez Canal (And they would have taken it easily) in Egypt the United States threatened to default on their WW2 borrowings. Doing so would have ruined the pound and in turn ruined England, so the queen withdrew all forces, a devastating loss as the Suez canal is one of the most important trade routes in all of world. Do you ever wonder why many third world countries continue to stay in debt? It is because they haven taken out huge loans from the world bank and cannot pay them off for a variety of reasons. For many years an American dairy farmer in Wisconsin could sell milk in Jamaica for cheaper than the Dairy farmer living 10 miles outside of the market. Why? Because Jamaica owed the World Bank over fifty million dollars in borrowed funds at a staggering 30 percent interest rate. The stipulation required that Jamaica use a system of "Free trade" in exchange for this money, where as the United States did not have to use these rules. This has happened to countless nations over history and it will happen to us if we keep going down this fiscally irresponsible road or military and domestic spending that we simply cannot afford, it really is that simple. Reply

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RNail
Aug 27, 09 12:48 PM CDT

@Annie Christ, you are right, a tax overhaul is what we need but from what I can gather everyone is going to have to pay more taxes, even if the rich are taxed near 100%. It will take more than taxes, it is going to take reduced spending at all levels of government and a massive increase in taxes. Reply

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JonmarkP
Aug 27, 09 1:30 PM CDT

No, it won't. Insurance industry profits are 30% to 40% of our current health care costs, while contributing nothing at all. Take the greedy insurance industry out of the equation, and we can pay for excellent heath care for everyone and have money left over. Why Obama doesn't make that clear would be a mystery to me, except for the fact that Washington is awash in insurance-industry cash, that they robbed from your pocket and mine.

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cornelison
Aug 27, 09 1:00 PM CDT

Do most of the people posting here today work for the insurance industry? You all sound so cruel & uncaring for sick people in your country. You guys must be posting under different aliases. Reply

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cornelison
Aug 27, 09 1:03 PM CDT

Up here in Canada we love our health care & we don't mind paying taxes for it. We care bout ourselves AND others. McCain & the GOP don't care - period. It's about time that people for health care reform are showing up at these town halls. The GOP wants to make it appear that most people are healthy so why change? Reply

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chas_m
Aug 27, 09 2:39 PM CDT

Hear hear, fellow Canadian!!!

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RNail
Aug 27, 09 1:06 PM CDT

? cornelison I am one of those of people who has no health care. I get a little bit from the VA for my time in the service but that only applies for very minor things (like say, the flu). Other than that my plan is staying healthy as possible. The thing is that we need to reduce the cost of healthcare, that would go along way in fixing the whole problem. But doing that is obviously easier said than done. Reply

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youngblood
Aug 27, 09 1:29 PM CDT

I don't get it why is McCain having people escorted out for shouting when last year at this time he had no problem with angry people shouting and becoming a lynch mob when he and Palin said Obama is hanging out with terrorists. Reply

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chas_m
Aug 27, 09 2:29 PM CDT

It would appear that THIS crowd were yelling FAVOUR of the public option. Oh dear, the shoe's on the other foot now! Let's see how Republicans deal with it! *grabs popcorn* Reply

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middleclasstaxpayer
Aug 28, 09 1:02 AM CDT

Why are all the loudest bellyachers the ones who happily accept socialized medicine in the form of medicare and medicaid? Social Security is subsidized by hardworking americans who are suffering and dying without their own insurance or direct deposit Social Security checks coming in while they lose their homes or go bankrupt trying to pay their own medical bills. Classic case of "Let them eat cake!". Reply

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passinthru
Sep 9, 09 12:51 PM CDT

it makes me sick to know i live in a country that is FOR killing of other people, and AGAINST helping your own kind because you dont want to shell out a couple more pennies on the dollar to make sure the sick get the care they need. Most of you people are just arguing just to argue. because you have different perspectives and different lives yet neither side is willing to bend for the other calling each other crazy and sick. there is something seriously wrong with human nature at this day in age that with all the technology and civilized manner that we have that nothing can get done because of all you braindead sheep are soaking up everything the douchebag personalities treading the waters with mind numbing rhetoric has to say. you people wont even stop for one minute to think if the people youre supporting is even worth your expelled air...you just know you hate the other party enough to wish death on public television to satisfy your own personal sick interests. this isnt politics, its a death match, and youre all supporting it by not arguing solid facts and just spewing venom. GROW THE FUCK UP AND DO SOMETHING TO HELP YOUR COUNTRY AND FELLOW MAN. not everyone is looking for a handout, some people really need it, and youre delaying care for these people because you dont think you should have to pay for the ones who want a handout...i cant remember the last time someone WANTED to go to the hospital, or was overjoyed they needed surgery. this sick idea that you people have in your heads about people purposely using healthcare to their benefit is retarded. they use it because they need it. stop thinking like a CEO with a business plan.. the gov will get your money one way or another if they need it, why not use it on preserving life? ill tell you why, because most of you are biased, racist, bigoted, ignorant sociopaths that are so self absorbed you cant see the goddamn forest for the trees. in the end when the last bomb goes off, the ones left will be there looking at each other wondering where the hell everything went wrong and it will be too late. the most ironic thing im looking at in that video is that the room is full of the elderly, and im willing to bet at least 50% of them are in some sort of health care. the hypocrisy is staggering. Reply

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