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Is Incest Always Rape?

Blog pundits debate if consent is ever an issue in father-daughter sex

By Mary Papenfuss,  Newser Staff

Posted Sep 24, 2009 5:13 AM CDT

(Newser) – Actress Mackenzie Phillips has already raised the "Stockholm syndrome" regarding 10 years of sex with her rock icon dad, leaving many to wonder if incest can ever be consensual. The blogosphere appears unanimous that John Phillips' sex with a blacked-out Mackenzie was rape since she was unable to consent—which was the case the first time Phillips had sex with his teen daughter. But even years later, when an adult Mackenzie says the sex became "consensual," many remain skeptical.

"I doubt incest victims are ever capable of consent with their abuser," notes Alex Leo in the Huffington Post. "Nope. Not consensual. Not even close." But Tracy Clary-Flory in Salon doesn't think it's that straightforward. "Our visceral reaction to this cultural taboo warps the debate," she notes, making it difficult to determine if such relationships are "without exception" rape. Mackenzie described the sex to Oprah Winfrey as part of the "Stockholm syndrome where you love your captor" and perceptions become "warped and twisted."

Mamas and The Papas lead singer John Phillips appears with daughter Mackenzie, smiling on the outside.
Mamas and The Papas lead singer John Phillips appears with daughter Mackenzie, smiling on the outside.   (AP Photo/File)
Mackenzie Phillips, of the 1970's sitcom One Day at a Time,  appears on the the NBC Today show last year.
Mackenzie Phillips, of the 1970's sitcom "One Day at a Time, " appears on the the NBC "Today" show last year.   (AP Photo/Richard Drew)
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77river
May 23, 2010 2:52 PM CDT
You don't think its rape, are you having sex with your sister? I know what incest is I lived it for 7 years. If a brother and sister are having sex as adults did you ever think for a minute that maybe it didn't start that way. They may even be sick in the head, but what my father put me through, was RAPE!!!!!
drlarrymitchell
Sep 27, 2009 8:19 AM CDT
Now there's ANOTHER reason to PUKE every time I hear "Kokomo."
jagerhans
Sep 27, 2009 2:47 AM CDT
no. this does not imply that incest is ok. only, it is a different crime that may or may not be committed in conjunction with rape. what if brother and sister , both adult and grown up, have sex ? it is incest but do you call THAT rape ? i understand your point but twisting things this way is of no use. isn't incest punished by itself as a different charge in your laws ? let me know.
 

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