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ANALYSIS

Honeymoon's Over for SNL, Obama

Saturday Night Live sketch mocks 'do-nothing' prez

By Rob Quinn| Posted Oct 8, 09 3:39 AM CDT|

(Newser) – Saturday Night Live didn't pull any punches when lampooning President Obama on the weekend and some analysts say that should be a red flag for the administration. A comedy skit purported to come to the president's defense against right-wing complaints that he's a "Hitler." No such thing. "It's very clear what I've done so far—and that is nothing," said comedian Fred Armisen on the comedy program posing as Obama. "Almost one year and nothing new to show for it."

When "your friends start talking about you like this, the White House should listen," wrote Washington Post blogger Jonathan Capehart. The sketch definitely signals that the media honeymoon is over for Obama, pop culture professor Robert Thompson tells CNN, but he cautioned it would be a mistake to read too much into it. "Comedy is going after the people in power," he said.

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SilenceDogood
Oct 8, 09 3:51 AM CDT

SNL political caricatures are usually delightful, this should be fun. Reply

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NovThird2010
Oct 8, 09 3:53 AM CDT

It's about time. Reply

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prowlerzee
Oct 8, 09 5:48 AM CDT

Jon Stewart beat them by months. My favorite is when he ran down Bush's stances about the war on terror and Zerobama's stances about the war and they were the same. And Stewaret nailed it by saying "but Obama makes the kids like it." Someone also made a side-splitting joke about the reason for this was that Bush left "his" teleprompter behind! Too funny.

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SilenceDogood
Oct 8, 09 3:59 AM CDT

I think he needs bigger ears. Reply

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riffran
Oct 8, 09 12:20 PM CDT

oh no you didn't....rofl

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kokuaguy
Oct 8, 09 3:34 PM CDT

SNL is for SNL. But in a sly way this helps the POTUS and his administration. It gives them an excuse to start spreading the word on what has been done. And it's a lot, actually. More importantly, the missteps and gaffes have been minimal. Now just to use the closing of GITMO as an example. Setting up a one year timetable for that was probably slightly unrealistic, but in itself the setting of a "deadline" was a major commitment, given the level of opposition among lawmakers and the public at large at the time. As the deadline looms, the debate is now almost entirely over. Everyone understands this will happen, and recent developments have underscored the ability of LAW ENFORCEMENT to handle much of hte heavy lifting when it comes to "keeping the Homeland safe."

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BoZo
Oct 8, 09 4:12 AM CDT

Figured jayster would be all over this one. Reply

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prowlerzee
Oct 8, 09 5:45 AM CDT

SNL has been hilarious recently. I stumbled upon one show recently and it was repeatedly laugh out loud funny.

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Fondue
Oct 8, 09 8:09 AM CDT

@Stopthe, Before the Bush era, or during?

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cochiserocks
Oct 8, 09 5:19 AM CDT

Comedy can act as a pressure group, just like anything populist in a democracy - it's not a bad thing to be kept humble AND accountable is it? The SNL skit on its own isn't a bad thing - the reaction will be the tester - Bear in mind Margaret Thatcher was pretty much destroyed by satire so biting it undermined her way before her marbles went. Reply

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kokuaguy
Oct 8, 09 3:41 PM CDT

OK, prowler, I forgive you for your first remark because of your second. I think SNL needs to hire you as a writer (performer?) But lest we forget, SNL was the first to really make the point that Senator Clinton was being savaged my much of the media while Senator Obama's pathway was being strewn with rose petals and gilded laurels were being fashioned into a halo to adorn his youthful buzz cut.

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carpenocturne
Oct 8, 09 5:26 AM CDT

I don't get why political analysts always thinks one instance makes a trend. Don't get me wrong, I think SNL is right on the money, but this is hardly a trend of the media taking a 180. Reply

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prowlerzee
Oct 8, 09 5:50 AM CDT

Please. The media has been on their knees fluffing this fraud from the get-go. Anyone who repeats that Zerobama, with his stilted and poor imitation of a Southern Preacher, is "articulate" is spouting evidence of this mass brainwashing.

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prowlerzee
Oct 8, 09 5:53 AM CDT

Meaning that when *anyone* in the media gets up off their knees, that's more than a 180. It's more like a 540.

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Cegorach
Oct 8, 09 10:02 AM CDT

"fraud"? Let me guess, you are a birther? Or do you believe he rigged the election? Because thats about the only ways his presidency could be fraudulent. And since I'm going to go out on a limb and say you aren't quite stupid enough to believe either of those, I must think you either misspoke, or you are just stupid.

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DarkFrancis
Oct 8, 09 6:09 AM CDT

Political satire lives, but not on SNL, really. From the little I've seen of it in the past few years...comedy doesn't live there either. Reply

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Snowleopard
Oct 8, 09 8:21 AM CDT

the message: A) right wingers are freaking out over nothing B) Obama should be more agressive in his policies Reply

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godawgs
Oct 8, 09 8:46 AM CDT

no I saw on CNN where they "fact checked" the skit, to try and show that SNL didn't know what they were talking about. So who is freaking out over nothing?

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LionKing
Oct 8, 09 9:03 AM CDT

Comedy is comedy. I put no more stock into any SNL skit about Obama than I did when Will Ferrel did Bush ( and he is a lot better Bush than Armesen an Obama) and it does not bother me in the least. And it doesn't bother me that Stewart points out the flaws of Obama and his carrying on Bush ideas he said he would stop. This is what separates liberals from conservatives....we have no problem calling out our own. Name one time in 8 years fox or conservatives ever called out the muck on the right or ever critisized Bush. Im glad they did that and I hope Obama saw it. He had a very big mess to clean up when he came into office (8 years of stupidiy cannot be cleaned up in 8 months) but he needs to follow through on some of his promises with at least the effort. If Senate and House Dems stab him in the back, then so be it. But he at least needs to put his words to action. Failure or not is another matter. If you try and fail its ok. If you never try and still fail, that is unacceptable. So much for the call of "its the liberal media" yada yada yada. SNL is a liberal as it gets as is Stewart and Mahar and still they hold the President accountable, something Bush never was from the right. Everything Bush did was "perfect" and "so American'.....yea..ok! Reply

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godawgs
Oct 8, 09 9:09 AM CDT

here you go from Bill Oreilly calling for bush to step down. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x213591

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LoudProudLib
Oct 8, 09 9:15 AM CDT

Thats cute godawgs......waaaay way too late and past the time he had done all the damage he had done. Good try, weak but nice effort.

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LiberalJesus
Oct 8, 09 9:32 AM CDT

One instance in 8 years godawg? Isn't that kinda weak there or are you just claiming that was the ONLY instance Bush or the gop needed calling out? Barely 8 months in and the liberal media is all over President Obama, rather unreasonably early to my liking but none the less there it is! I worry far more of impatient liberals from the left pushing the unreasonable time frame than the whack-a-loons on the right with all their birther, teabaggin, tenther nonsense because demographics favor Democrats for a very long time unless the gop pull out of their hate, violence and "NO" mode. And like my wife said, it's so much better hearing a Democrat President get plowed by the media rather than a republican because it means the Democrats are in power. Simple enough huh!....

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godawgs
Oct 8, 09 9:43 AM CDT

@lib look if you guys bother to read the posts that i am replying to you will note that you boy lionking said the right NEVER went after Bush in 8 years. so a 10 second google search revelived that i could find out the right did go after bush. Now LJ you tell me how the liberal media is going after the President in 8 months? He has yet to hold any of his major campaign promises but when he doesn't keep them they call him pragmatic, he is expanded or keeping all of the Bush forgeing policices but as it was stated so nice by Jon Stewart the kids like it. The medai is thereatnted by the press seceratary and the President, that they will use the full power of the white house to come aftet them if they don't liek what they say. I mean i don't kno wabout your definition of coming after but i do know that bush was blasted when unemployment only raised itself a point by krugman, and wnen the same thing happens krugman is all over the President's sack. The fact that the media allows the PResident adn VP to get up on stage adn talk about how they saved or created jobs, whith no explanation of how they got those numbers is cool too, i guess they donn't get to ask follow up questions huh? So you keep thinking that the media is after the President, i guess since the left has all of the power in washington and still can't get anything done, you have to have some sort of villian don't you?

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Carpediem4U
Oct 8, 09 9:56 AM CDT

Agreed LK! And at least Obama has already said he owns this economy, the wars. Talk about stand up and take responsibility! We still havent heard a word from Bush, the gop or the right about what he's responsible for and never will. Nothing is their fault. Everything they did was sunshine on a cloudy day! Hey..is it Bushs' fault the Iraqis didnt get on board the "we want to invade you for your oil" train and like it? Is it Bushs' fault his plan to get OBL failed because he gave up and decided oil was more important than the head of a terrorist group who bombed the towers? Hardly. Sounds like more bogus liberal media poo poo to me. Ya know every day I look out the window I see people just dying to go back to the Bush years. Yeppers. Those were the good ol' days when our fine President would lie to us stupid Americans and allow American service personnel to die for nothing just to spend money on military arms to fatten the wallets of his cronies. Anyone in NewserLand who's lost a loved one in Iraq like our family and happy with the reason? Gosh I miss those days! And I miss the people who died for such a glorious cause....Halerburton and KBR! I wish President Obama would send more personnel into the meat grinder so we can relive the past! Because nothing says America like an endless pointless war for profits. Its all about capitalism baby! OOOHHH RAH!

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thejoint00
Oct 8, 09 11:08 AM CDT

@carpediem- then you must have missed Dick Cheeny's speeches. please take some time to study both sides. it's called being open-minded.

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Snarfeh
Oct 8, 09 2:27 PM CDT

@dawgs - I notice you got no response after pointing out that your post on Reilly was to point out that lionking was wrong. Good job refuting that. You know I despise Busch, but I don't like it when libs accuse you guys of not responding with substance and then give you thumbs down when you do. I still disagree with ya on the issues as far as ideology, but I am willing to "attaboy" ya when you score.

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kokuaguy
Oct 8, 09 3:58 PM CDT

Let this be a lesson to you -- newbie Leonine Monarch. NEVER say never. Better way to raise the point: Would someone please tell me how many times .... such and such has happened? Then when some poser like godawgs ( I got that word from one of the troll here -- delightful insult -- it's mild in comparison to so many used here, but works for so many of hypocrites on the right here -- even you occasionally dawgs ) comes up wth a VERY rare exception the obvious response is to demonstrate the contortions O'Reilly has gone through to try to legitimize that ridiculous "fair and balanced" label, and his own truly absurd "no-spin zone." A great example I love to cite is O'Reilly's supposed opposition to capital punishment. On ONE condition. Murders would have to go to prison for life without the possibility of parole. Oh, yes, there's another caveat as well. The "authorities" would have to construct escape proof institutions such as Alcatraz for housing these monsters. That could only be done by locating such a facility in the middle of a frozen Alaskan wasteland, of course. So probably it's only theoretically possible. But, still, because this scenario is not beyond the realm of possibility, O'Reilly can claim to support the abolition of CP and therefore call himself "fair and balanced." Of course in the instant case O'Reilly was not calling for Cheney to resign as well, I assume, so ... what's the point? And no, I have not looked at the link, dawgs. Again, what's the point?

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LoudProudLib
Oct 8, 09 9:13 AM CDT

At least hes being satired for not following through. No one is claiming hes a walking idiont like Sarah Palin or a bumbling non english speaking Bush. I'll take being taunted over failure to follow through over "boy arent they stupid" any day of the week and twice on sunday! Reply

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godawgs
Oct 8, 09 9:50 AM CDT

there you go I would rather be a failure then have someone make fun of the way I talk...you mom must be very proud.

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luvroks
Oct 8, 09 9:21 AM CDT

wonder where o'reilly was when bush and the gop were lying us into the war in iraq? didnt ever see him ask for the facts then, did you godawgs. shall i even ask you why we stopped looking for bin laden and decided to ruin the only westernized country in the middle east? any response to how invading iraq has now made iran the top power in that region now that it has shiites in iraq running the show now? no westernized iraq, no buffer against iran. great trade off wouldnt you say mr. dawg. Reply

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LionKing
Oct 8, 09 9:35 AM CDT

Good response Lisha. Lets see him do the 'do ron ron' on that on!

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godawgs
Oct 8, 09 9:49 AM CDT

well luv it depends on who you talk to. I am sure that the people in Iraq that no longer live under the fear of their dicatator, the fear of getting gassed by his brother, and who actually have some freedoms in their life's probably thought what we did was a good thing. I mean is Iran top power in the region, could be but our President is talking to them and trying to work something out. What facts are you talking about with the Iraq war? Give me some specifics and if i can find them then I will post them, Now we didn't stop looking for bin laden as much as the left wants you to believe that. We were multitasking just not multitasking very well. I was over there three times so i have a good view of what was going on. Now do you rally think that Iraq want's to be westernized when it goes agains most of their religious beliefs? Our goal over there was to liberate the country and get a good deal on some on oil. Unfortuanlty we were only able to liberate the country. So i will wait for those specific things that you want to know about Iraq.

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youngblood
Oct 8, 09 9:47 AM CDT

Who cares SNL is NOT funny unless u have Tina Fey on and so called comedian Fred Armisen, is NOT funny at all. He does not sound, act, or look like Barack Obama, and Tina Fey is the only comedian there who can nail it down. SNL is NO longer funny and hasn't been for years, just that very brief time when Tina was doing Sarah Palin, if the truth be known!!! Reply

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Carpediem4U
Oct 8, 09 10:01 AM CDT

godawg....are you going to say that you would rather be made fun of for policy failure than being stupid? And you thought Bush was a master orator? And you think Palin is a scholar? Really? Really! My mom's proud that I decide on my own and we do not gather around the boob tube watching only one source for news and information..yea.I'd say she's proud. But thanks for asking. How is your Mother by the way. Well I hope! Reply

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godawgs
Oct 8, 09 10:14 AM CDT

@carpe well no i didn't say that, proudloudlib said he would rather be made fun of for policy failure. i know reading compreshinsion is hard and so if following all these posts. I guess you got me because i scream from the mountaintops each day how smart i think sarah palin is. you should check the history newbit before you make claims like that. So do you still consider it to be deciding on your own when msnbc or the huffintionpost tells you what you what to think? I am sure that you mom is very proud of you and that is something that no one can take away from you, just like the ability you have to thumb up your own posts. I mean you are your biggest fan after all. and for the record i don't watch cable news. My mom is well thanks.

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youngblood
Oct 8, 09 1:56 PM CDT

I think that godawgs is on LSD and hallucinating most of the time, if the truth be known!

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godawgs
Oct 8, 09 2:45 PM CDT

@young only when i was younger. How are those KO talking points working out for you?

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LoudProudLib
Oct 8, 09 10:14 AM CDT

Actually godawgs, just 3 weeks ago on BBC they did a 5 hour documentary ( 1 hour a night for 5 days) on life after Saddam and guess what...they said life was so much better under Saddam. Did he rule with an iron fist...yes. But many a dictator the US has propped up has done so with the blessing of the US government for reasons I wont go into here. They did admit that he was a bastard, but before the Gulf War everyone had a job, everyone had a place to live, everyone had running water, food, electricity. Iraq was considered the most westernized country in the middle east. All religions were welcomed and worshipped in peace. Now its only one brand, one religion. The only ones who lived in fear were outspoken Shiites bent on over throwning Saddam. Now since you and your party support torture I do not understand your problem with Saddam. Granted he was a killer but only to those who rattled his cage. He was by no means Pol Pot. And least you forget, the United Stated inserted him into power. We used him as a buffer against the Iranians after 1980. Now there are over 2 million Iraqis refugees straining the border countries such as Jordan and Syria and they are afraid to go home to Shiite and hard core Muslim rule. There was no muslim rules under Saddam. He was all about money and power, but not religious nuttery. You wont see that report or documentary on Fox. Reply

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luvroks
Oct 8, 09 10:27 AM CDT

spot on LoudProud! i love it when you guys load up on facts to shoot down opinions. most of the time i think godawgs is the most civil of the bunch but every now and then he loses it and then the name calling begins, its sad too because a healthy discussion of the topic is so much more useful when insults and name calling are left out of the mix. it hasnt taken long to see who does what the most amount of times and who backs up their opinions with facts instead of just tossing firebombs. and like carpe, I'd rather the conservatives make fun of me because of my policies and or failures rather than be torn down because i'm stupid. Policies can be fixed and adjusted over time, but stupid is forever...witness Palins inability to correct even her first mistakes. she continues to make them over and over.

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godawgs
Oct 8, 09 11:16 AM CDT

You know loud the soviets all had running water, electricity and jobs as well during the communist era. that didn't mean that their quality of life was worth living does it? i mean with all of that free stuff from the government, because Saddam was elected with a 99% vote each time, i guess a little gassing here and there is okay right?

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godawgs
Oct 8, 09 11:18 AM CDT

@luv then you should really start to get onto you left wing brethren about that. they are usually ones that start the name calling in this forum, now it could be from just sheer numbers but check it out and see. you can want to be known as a failure and that's fine, but if you policies are a success then you are more often then not a fairly smart person.

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riffran
Oct 8, 09 4:37 PM CDT

Unless you were one of the mustard based Kurds

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LionKing
Oct 8, 09 10:55 AM CDT

I have one question for you godawg.....Are you not in the least bit ashamed that our country destroyed another country over the guise of "WMD's" that were never there? Are you not as ashamed as I am that we, AMERICA, invaded a country and wrecked it all under false pretense? Multi tasking Sir? Really? That is your response to our (notice I say our because I assume we're all Americans here) sudden shift in priorities. Just out of curiosity Sir, how long do we stay in Afghanastan? Are we still even after OBL? It's already been 8 years and I see no end in sight. Does Vietnam come to your mnd like it does mine or am I too old? I thought it was all about Bin Laden and Iraq was all about WMD. Correct me if I am wrong but no WMDs and no OBL and yet over a trillion dollars spent. You favor never ending wars in Iraq and Afghanastan with zero return value on the dollar but you chastise Obama spending money on healthcare for all Americans. I dont get it Sir. As much as I hold Bush responsible, I hold house and senate dems even more accoutable because they buckled when the far right loonies started attacking anyone who was against the war in Iraq as "un american"..how stupid and base....that tried and true mantra to get an anti war liberal in congress to chicken out even when facts dictate otherwise. Republicans are chicken hawk warriors but even worse, democrats are gutless in the face of name calling. I dont know who sickens me more, a party that wants endless wars and has no problem running up a budget deficit but cant stand the thought of spending money on Americans back home or a party thats too chicken to stand up to name calling and then tries to pass the buck to Bush when they had the power to stop Bush in his tracks but failed. They have the power to easily pass health care, or anything they want but yet they shrivel in the corner at the hint of being called "lberals" You might be proud to be a republican and find no faults in your party, but I choose not to turn a blind eye to our party and leader's failure to act like they have a large majority and no exuces for being failures. Reply

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godawgs
Oct 8, 09 11:08 AM CDT

@lk so did we get our Olberman fix last night or what? I do like the use of the word sir but that doesn't make the fact you made no sense in your post. We have never left Afghanistan for the last eight years, and yes we are still looking for OBL. I have yet to chastise the President for spending money on health care, again check the post history I am for health care reform with a minimum of the public option. yeah so, no i don't have a problem with what bush did, he went into to liberate a country and get a good deal on oil. That is the way the world works dude sorry that you can't see that, but since we can't gain access to our own natural resources, green energy is not far enough along to be fully implemented then W did what he had to do to try and make us a little better, that and he wanted to finish what his dad started.

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thejoint00
Oct 8, 09 11:26 AM CDT

@lk- well it did have a return value on the dollar, until russia threatened to aid Iran in reclaiming Iraq if america kept troops there. Georgia's call to be our ally was the onset of their recent occupation. and now in Afghanistan, our victory will hold more value to the Chinese than it will to us because of the money that they have spent on our war. still though as you mention 60 Democrats in congress and still no change "ka-ching" I'm thinking about that the next time I try to vote with hope in one hand and $hit in the other.

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