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US Pays $400 a Gallon for Gas in Afghanistan

Figure to become major talking point in Congress

By Kevin Spak| Posted Oct 16, 09 11:06 AM CDT|

(Newser) – As debate over the Afghan war heats up, expect Congress to heavily quote a new statistic from the Pentagon: $400. That’s how much the US pays, on average, for every gallon of fuel put into its planes and combat vehicles in Afghanistan, military officials recently told the House Defense Appropriations Subcommittee. “It is a number that we were not aware of, and it is worrisome,” John Murtha tells The Hill.

The subcommittee had asked the Pentagon to break down why it spends about $1 billion for every 1,000 troops deployed. The fuel bill is so high because Afghanistan is both inaccessible and underdeveloped. Fuel has to be shipped in through Pakistan, and then, since roads are scarce, it often must be flown to remote forward operating bases. “These are fairly major problems for us,” one General told a Navy energy forum this week.

An Afghan driver walks among the fuel tankers at the U.S. military base in Bagram north of Kabul, Afghanistan, Tuesday, Dec. 16, 2008. (AP Photo/Musadeq Sadeq)

An F/A-18C Hornet takes on fuel from a British Royal Air Force L-1011 tanker aircraft. (AP P)hoto/US Navy - Erik Etz)

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tomodachi
Oct 16, 09 11:14 AM CDT

I'd guess $400 isn't what it costs... It's what (Halliburton?) charges us. I bet it could be bought and delivered to Afghanistan for considerably less if it was done through a contractor that wasn't sleeping with the government. Reply

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prowlerzee
Oct 16, 09 5:34 PM CDT

Yeah, Obot, and WHO was it who strongarmed the Dems into approving all this money to be burned in continuing Bush-Cheney's war on terror? ZEROBAMA and his WH. How's that antiwar fraud working out for you now?

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fancygapva
Oct 16, 09 11:21 PM CDT

Russia would be a good contractor. They have leases on lots of pipelines....

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Ana58
Oct 16, 09 11:31 AM CDT

Wow oh wow! We wont hear a word of outrage from the conservatives I'm sure as that would be attacking a Cheney Bush company. See ACORN is stealing from America but Halliburton is providing for our troops!...woo woo woo...We allow billion dollar thieves we can see with our own eyes to do as they please but then comes along a couple of young republican punks ( who broke the law!) to convince Congress, with ZERO proof that ACORN is fleecing the nation...ACORN....a group dedicated to helping the poor is fleecing the goverment....really....and what military contractors do by the billions is what again? Reply

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Snarfeh
Oct 16, 09 11:40 AM CDT

^5 Ana!

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hybrid
Oct 16, 09 12:08 PM CDT

broke the law? prove it, dont be pissed because your gong to have to find a new accountant.

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hybrid
Oct 16, 09 12:15 PM CDT

WHAT military contractors do is provide jobs and insurance to many of our union employees. With out those contracts your presious union would be gone. What does acorn do? provide advice in way to cheat the gov out of tax rev and endanger children involved in prostitution. Go back to msnbc whacko

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godawgs
Oct 16, 09 12:23 PM CDT

In the case of the $400 dollar gas charge here, if they are making money off the war and tax payers by overcharging then take all of them to trail and put them in jail. I think that fines are probably what would happen though, as Haliburtion just paid like 832 million or something. The issue with ACORN wasn't about stealing, the tapes proved that some of their employee's not all of them were willing to do some illegal stuff. They have alleged proof since the case might be going to court, you know those video tapes they kept getting released. In the end I am for bringing people to justice no matter what your party affiliation is if you do something wrong. The government needs to do a better job with their oversight of the way that contracts are getting awarded and a couple of bad employees doesn't mean that all of ACORN's activities are wrong. Don't group everyone into a single narrow vision of what you think they are going to say. Post your comments and then let the replies come in. You might be surprised at the answers you will get. Most of the people on this site want things to be fair and everyone held accountable for their actions.

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hybrid
Oct 16, 09 12:26 PM CDT

as usual godawgs is right on,,,thankyou

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luvroks
Oct 16, 09 1:25 PM CDT

They broke Federal and Maryland state laws. It is illegal to tape anyoner without their consent. Look it up idiot. Why do you think those 2 punks have now been kept outta site by orders of their attorneys'? They are in trouble, more than they ever bargined for.

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godawgs
Oct 16, 09 1:32 PM CDT

@luvroks Great then in Maryland they will be punished for their crime. That still doesn't excuse the behavior of the employees in Maryland, New York, or California. They did two stops in Californian so we won't count the one where they lady talked about her husband being killed or whatever as it is probably false. Also it is only illegal for voice recording in marlyand without their consent, but I am sure that you knew that. You did know that they recorded people in more then one state right?

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LionKing
Oct 16, 09 1:50 PM CDT

She's right...and she's already out smarted you and made you look like a clown 'fondueyou' because she stated a well thought out position without verbally attacking any of you conservatives. She offered you a simple side by side comparison. Your other comments are too ridiculous to even address. If ACORN had truly intentionally ( and we now know those workers KNEW it was a set up and played those punks) broken the laws as you state, then why haven't states, even red states filed any charges? Why hasn't any republican in congress demanded that charges be brought against ACORN? Your reply was "no, we cant investigate billion dollar over runs, but yes, we can investigate ACORN an incident that now is highly questionable at all if the facts are indeed as these punks claim. When it was first reported, FOX made no mention that those incidents that were taped were later called in to the Police by those ACORN workers and reported. It is hard to surmise that ACORN volunteers broke the law, and then called the Police on their own accord. Watch how this all plays out. By attacking a puny outfit that helps the poor, the backlash when this all shakes out will be a windfall for ACORN as politicans of both stripes race to undue the knee jerk action they took without due process of the law. Or are you conservatives against due process...meaning a trial before sentencing. This was no trial and sentenced passed with no evidence than the videos of these punks....who might have wished they reviewed state and federal laws regarding hidden videos without consent But the law doesnt matter to you 'fondueyou' because it doesnt fit your idea of reality. They are no where to be seen and I dont see Hannity huffing and puffing up these crooks anymore. You wanna bet he also know's these hero punks of his broke state and federal laws?

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godawgs
Oct 16, 09 2:04 PM CDT

@LK first they only broke state laws in maryland. The police in New York and California both requested the tapes to review them. If nothing wrong happened as you say then why did Berhta lewis fire the employee's in question, also why did she thank Fox News on the air in an interview for airing the tapes, and begin a full internal investigation of the organization? Don't get me wrong ACORN has a place in the country and I some bad employee's in such a large organization are bound to happen, but the organization sure did have a knee jerk reaction to the tapes being released.

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LoudProudLib
Oct 16, 09 2:14 PM CDT

With all do respect godawg, dont you feel a little embarrassed or sheepish about the likes of "dontlikeyou. citrix guy, fondueyou, Mrs K et al when you all agree on something...I mean you seem to be sane, agreeable to an open discussion without the need to hurl spit balls and feces all over the place. And my sympathies to you that fondueyou has thankfully acknowledged your contribution to his post. Thats gotta sting alittle...This must be what James Dobson felt when he found out Ted Haggard liked to ride the hershey hiway.....lol

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luvroks
Oct 16, 09 2:29 PM CDT

They fired them the same way many many organizations fire anyone who could be a bad image innocent or guilty of anything...its public relations godawg and it happens all the time. And it still doesnt excuse the fact that what Congress did over such a puny infraction while looking the other way when war profiteers rape the treasury is just disgusting. And all things being equal godawgs, who is really the major bad guys here? And hasn't the gop, for years had a hard on for ACORN because they register poor and minorities people to vote? And this is all they end up with...video by 2 punks who broke the law? You're happy how that when down? You wanna be the lawyer who now has to convince Congress what a wide spread threat this is? And please dont bring that weak ' too many micky mouse' voters to the house. You cant vote with out an ID. How many micky mouses did you think got away with voting? I wish the military profiteers and complex screwed us like ACORN supposedly has...it would have been far less expensive and far less deadly.

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godawgs
Oct 16, 09 2:48 PM CDT

@luv I agree that the people making money off of the war profits are worse then the people from ACORN. the way the video was obtained was illegal in maryland so the two republicans will have to pay the price for that. Now I am happy that ACORN did launch their investigation internally which is good. i stated they have purpose but the company needs to ensure their employee's aren't deliberate embarrassing the company. the voter registration fraud case is in court so we will see how that turns out. I wouldn't have tried to compare the two crimes as equal and if came off as that , that is not what I meant. i do get the point about congress having time to investigate acorn but not the war profiteers. hopefully that will change.

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prowlerzee
Oct 16, 09 5:37 PM CDT

omg, pornolips is back. I thought pornolips wailed and sniveled out of here whimpering how she just couldn't take it. Meghan McCain's got nothing on pornolips because at least Ms. McCain doesn't use her breasts as her avatar. Hey, pornolips, Michelle Malkin called and wants them back.

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prowlerzee
Oct 16, 09 5:41 PM CDT

Hey, pornolips. I know you have to be a guy posing as a woman because a woman knows that love does indeed rock and doesn't include pursing your lips while on your knees. You expect anyone to take what comes out of your pornolips seriously? And question: have you voted to get Alice Paul her long overdue Congressional medal? If not, why are you wasting oxygen on our planet?

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divetrader
Oct 16, 09 11:57 AM CDT

The neocons are in heaven. Reply

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Spudsy
Oct 16, 09 12:10 PM CDT

Only the ones that are invested in Halliburton. I'm looking at you , Dick Cheney.

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SPH
Oct 16, 09 12:16 PM CDT

Heaven is an unlikely place for this band of thieves....

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Spudsy
Oct 16, 09 12:14 PM CDT

The saddest thing is we could be done and gone from this hell on earth of a country if Bush hadn't pulled out the troops to show daddy what he could do in Iraq. Oh, and the chain of orders to stand down and let Bin Laden escape Tora Bora really should be investigated. And don't give me that bs that we wanted Afghan troops to get the victory. We didn't, and still don't, even trust them to wash their hands after they crap. I think Bush needed a boogieman alive to push Iraq. And look where we are today. Reply

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prowlerzee
Oct 16, 09 5:44 PM CDT

No, Obot, the saddest thing is that you brainless Obots fell for sloganeering and voted in a Trojan Ass who is continuing Bush's secrecy, executive concentration of power, immunity for telecoms spying on Americans, immunity for torturers, and continuation of the Bush Cheney war profiteering. Talk about on your knees. Crawl till yours bleed and beg forgiveness. You will never deserve it but it's the best you can do now.

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mehrheit
Oct 16, 09 6:49 PM CDT

@powrlerzee Stop. Seriously. You aren't helping your 'cause', whatever it may be. I'm embarrassed to belong to the same species as you, and I imagine all serious conservatives must be mortified every time they read your illogical ramblings. Ever watch someone making a total fool of themselves, and have to turn away because it's too uncomfortable to watch? That's sane people's reaction to your comments.

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PriorGuess
Oct 16, 09 12:17 PM CDT

Nationalize Halliburton. Reply

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LoudProudLib
Oct 16, 09 2:16 PM CDT

Or try them, sentence them, jail them!

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KennyBoy
Oct 16, 09 2:32 PM CDT

Too Late, they are no longer an American company. They are based in Dubai now I believe.

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Fondue
Oct 27, 09 7:00 PM CDT

I know this is two weeks old, but I just had to comment on this. Nationalize Halliburton? I thought that's what Bush was going for. Halliburton is paid with US tax dollars. I would suggest they are nationalized.

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Forderon
Oct 16, 09 12:25 PM CDT

ACORN got a total of $53M in funding since 1994, but funding had to be cut, illegally I might add, since Bills of Attainder are unconstitutional. On the other hand, we spend over $3B a month on Afghanistan, millions of which go to corrupt contractors like Blackwater and Halliburton. Reply

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godawgs
Oct 16, 09 12:35 PM CDT

i agree and the group that the let the contracts become no bid should all be fired. the contracts in iraq and afghans should all go into re-compete so that the people can ensure their money is being spent fairly. here's an article about the haliburtion/kbr split with some stuff about the current contracts from april. http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=15372

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Toon
Oct 16, 09 1:05 PM CDT

Godawgs, the folks who let contracts be no bid were the Republicans who you conservatives supported through the 2004 elections and beyond. What's most sickening is the way so many Bush voters now call themselves independents or libertarians, washing their hands of their responsibility for electing, lazy crooked politicians whose friends are still robbing tax payers blind. The worst are the obstructionist like the teabaggers, birthers and deathers who keeping Congress from passing health care and moving on to focus on fixing problems like this.

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godawgs
Oct 16, 09 1:11 PM CDT

@toon according to the artilce hat I posted the DCAA has gone to congress as late as April 2008 (democratic controlled) and voiced complaints against KBR which is the parent company to Haliburton about price issues. They have also made recommendations not to pay KBR but are being trumped by the Pentagon. That doesn't sound to me like it's just republicans who are renewing the contracts. Since it's a democratic controlled congress aren't the chairs all Democratic?

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luvroks
Oct 16, 09 1:30 PM CDT

It takes 2 parties to allow this to happen. Republicans might have pushed no bid contrats and freedom from prosecution for wrong doing but Dems in their cowardly way let republicans walk all over them under the guise of "you're un amercian if you dont back this" trash. But Dems with courage could have even gone as far as not allowed the war in Iraq to happen by standing up and speaking against it...... But they didnt.

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YeahISaidIt
Oct 16, 09 2:23 PM CDT

luvorks, you really think that ANYONE could have stopped that madman at that point in time when he had the whole country (and world) worked up in a tizzy with his "not patriotic/axis of evil/WMDs" rhetoric? I agree, someone should have slapped some sense into our leadership (actually someone tried, Obama) at that point in time, but trying to put any kind of blame on the Dems who were scared that ANY kind of attack post 9/11 would have doomed the entire party if they had gone on record as not supporting the president when he was running around like Chicken Little declaring that the sky was falling. I feel bad for all politicians during that time, it wasn't their fault. G Dub held ALL the chips in that poker game, and the man was just to damn foolish to know when to fold...we all suffer for it.

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luvroks
Oct 16, 09 2:40 PM CDT

But if they had stood up to him, who knows what shape this country would be in. Thats the point here. There comes a time a politician has to do whats right for the country, not their own self preservation, and that exactly what the demos did before the run up to the war. The party would have easily recovered because far more people were aganst invading Iraq than they were Afghanastan. Even I agreed with going into Afghanastan and taking out OBL, but that now seems like just a diversion so Bush could push us into Iraq for his own personal gain and vendetta. No republican has ever explained to me how they justified stopping the chase for OBL to invade the only western nation in the middle east and the best buffer we had against the Iranians. Any gop wanna tell us how much weaker Iran is now...anyone????

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Forderon
Oct 16, 09 3:33 PM CDT

Good info, godawgs

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prowlerzee
Oct 16, 09 5:46 PM CDT

omg, Michelle Malkin pornolips talks about "both parties." Dead "male Libertarian" giveaway.

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Jayster999
Oct 16, 09 1:49 PM CDT

This is why the military-industrial complex is such a danger to our republic. Billions of dollars are fleeced from taxpayers in order to fatten the pockets of a relative few. Not to mention the cost in life and limb. Our troops should be on the border keeping Mexicans out, not in the Middle East making Dick and the boys richer. Reply

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Carpediem4U
Oct 16, 09 2:02 PM CDT

While I wanted so bad to be onboard with you just this one time Jayster, your sudden about face from the middle east to unleash an army on "mexicans" leaves me rather sick. I suppose theres always tomorrow. I live right here in Austin Texas and as far as the eye can see there are no mexicans over-running Texas! But I'll holla at ya when dais a commin.! Maybe aliens will attack the world soon and we could find common ground there?

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YeahISaidIt
Oct 16, 09 2:25 PM CDT

Carpediem4U...ditto on that one...lol

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DanB
Oct 16, 09 2:20 PM CDT

Get out of Afganistan and nuke the poppy fields and the radicals. Reply

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luvroks
Oct 16, 09 2:41 PM CDT

well get out yes....but nuke...really...are you serious?

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prowlerzee
Oct 16, 09 5:48 PM CDT

pornolips is standing by to fluff the Taliban. It's makes me ROTFLMAO to see someone with a PORN AVATAR ask others if they "are serious." Really? Really, pornolips? And you? Are you serious? Purse 'em some more, show how serious you and your porn avatar are!

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prowlerzee
Oct 16, 09 5:51 PM CDT

Another question, pornolips. Was luvsux already taken? hahahaha. So, how's that vote to give Alice Paul the congressional medal working? Have you gotten up off your knees and unpursed your lips long enough to do something positive to offset your demeaning women everywhere?

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alkaseltzersammich
Oct 16, 09 2:31 PM CDT

War is always a waste of money. It rarely accomplishes anything and is only used as leverage to assert dominanc on a region. There is no tangible benefit to remaining in Afghanistan. We need to focus intelligence efforts on Pakistan and their intelligence arm that funds and provides support to various Taliban warlords. Reply

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SemperFI
Oct 16, 09 6:53 PM CDT

Dick Cheney and Halliburton. How did I guess. $400 for gas? How much for a toliet seat ? Dont we have a Czar for this? We have a Czar for everything else. I would fine the living BaJesus out of these people. And I dont want to hear it was a clerical mistake. Maybe,after your finesd a gazillion dollars you can hire a high schooler who can add and subtract Reply

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godawgs
Oct 16, 09 7:12 PM CDT

the reason we end up with $2000 toilet seats is that the Army or DoD will just take the total cost of everything put it at the bottom and make everything an equal line item. So if we spent 100 on 10 things on the receipt everything would cost $10 no matter what the actual cost.

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fancygapva
Oct 16, 09 11:34 PM CDT

How did ACORN get into this discussion of $400 tax payer paid for oil in Afghanistan? That's the news today. How can we do something about it? Our country is bleeding money into somebody's pocket. WAY more money than it is spending on "acorns" Reply

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zackmasson
Oct 17, 09 12:24 AM CDT

OMG how can it continue to go along business as usual. This is INSANE. Government needs to change its diaper before it dies from toxic shock. Reply

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