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Matt Taibbi

Palin: Our First WWE Politician

Pick an asshole, any asshole, and she'll rock the house

Nov 22, 09 10:44 AM CST
analysis

Book Tour Shows Palin
Hitting a Nerve

'Going Rogue' phenomenon may foreshadow something bigger

Nov 22, 09 2:46 PM CST
editorial

NYT to Blankfein:
Your 'Apology'
Is Bull

Editorial board schools Goldman CEO in true meaning of 'sorry'

Nov 22, 09 4:53 PM CST
the big plan

Beck Will Host Conventions
to Educate America

He's shifting toward political organizer, plans big DC rally

Nov 21, 09 5:06 PM CST
NO COMMUNION FOR YOU, MY SON

RI Bishop Disses
Kennedy Over
Pro-Choice
Stance

Spat over Patrick's position on abortion escalates

Nov 22, 09 8:23 AM CST
TALK SHOW ROUNDUP

McConnell:
Dems Proceed
at 2010 Peril

Senators hit the Sunday talk shows after health vote

Nov 22, 09 11:15 AM CST
Palin Pulls in Big Bucks
—for Democrats

'Going Rogue' boosts Dem fundraising to new high

Nov 21, 09 6:50 AM CST
who let the paranoids out?

46 Years After Kennedy, the Virus of Hate Is Back

Republican Rep. Louie Gohmert panders to dangerous paranoids

Nov 21, 09 9:08 AM CST
Eyes on 2010

Lincoln
Swings to
Center of
Health Debate

Dems come calling as GOP eyes her seat in 2010

Nov 22, 09 1:03 PM CST
Senate Democrats Clear
Health Care Hurdle, 60-39

Reid gets 60 votes to open full debate after Thanksgiving recess

Nov 21, 09 7:13 PM CST
Billboard Links Obama to Jihad

Colo. car dealership wants this opinion heard

Nov 20, 09 8:42 PM CST
HE'S GOT A BOOK OUT, TOO

Beck to Unveil
'Big Plan' at
Saturday Rally

Righty pundit OK with destroying Dems and GOP

Nov 20, 09 8:07 PM CST
First State Dinner to
Reveal Obama A-Listers

Mad scramble for invitations

7 hours, 42 minutes ago

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ANALYSIS

In Fight With Fox, White House Can't Win

Administration has 'brought a knife to a gunfight': David Carr

By M. Morris| Posted Oct 18, 09 4:24 PM CDT|

(Newser) – By tackling Fox News head-on, the Obama administration has almost certainly bitten off more than it can chew, apparently prioritizing payback ahead of rising above the fray. "While there is undoubtedly a visceral thrill in finally setting out after your antagonists," media columnist David Carr writes for the New York Times, "the history of administrations that have successfully taken on the media and won is shorter than this sentence."

Recent shots at Fox, ranging from communications director Anita Dunn's direct assault to the lame "Reality Check" blog on the White House website, aren't just undignified—they grant Fox a status it apparently doesn't even aspire to. The network "is not in the access business. They are in the agitation business," Carr observes. "And the administration, by deploying official resources against a troublesome media organization, seems to have brought a knife to a gunfight."

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Thinker
Oct 18, 09 4:29 PM CDT

As in, "You can't win an argument with an idiot?" Reply

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Robert_Dada
Oct 18, 09 4:39 PM CDT

Well stated Thinker. Bravo!

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cochiserocks
Oct 18, 09 5:47 PM CDT

Good point - well made

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riffran
Oct 18, 09 8:22 PM CDT

But Beck still tries...god bless him

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pinecone
Oct 18, 09 9:09 PM CDT

Especially when the idiot considers himself anointed as some sort of deity, instead of elected by a relatively small number.

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bewilderbeast
Oct 19, 09 8:23 AM CDT

Yes, true, but please shout out the real point here: White House, don't be foolish! Barack, rise above the fray! Your sycophants will yet do you harm by over-reaching. DROP this foolishness. There's work to be done.

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proud_prude
Oct 19, 09 12:08 PM CDT

As opposed to an idiot who was NOT elected but "se-elected" by five arrogant, politically rnotivated judges.

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JonmarkP
Oct 19, 09 8:45 PM CDT

Gee, the fact that Obama is the current occupant of the White House indicates to me that Fox has already lost - not a battle with the White House, but a battle to lead the American middle class.

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RockyPneumonia
Oct 18, 09 4:39 PM CDT

The White House is not taking on "the media"; it is taking on one rogue member of the media, and it's long overdue. Reply

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reasonator
Oct 18, 09 5:05 PM CDT

Uh, the government in a free democratic nation that protects the freedom of the press/media (even biased and irresponsible media) should not be "taking on" the media. The first thing a repressive totalitarian regime will do is silence critical media, so if Obama wants to demonstrate that his administration will never become that, they should just leave well enough alone and stop wasting time with Fox news.

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RockyPneumonia
Oct 18, 09 5:42 PM CDT

In what way have they attempted to silence Fox News?

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DJM420
Oct 18, 09 5:53 PM CDT

@ reasonated... i had a problem with the BUSH regime supplying 'news' stories to FOX NOOSE, you have a problem with the Obama admin pointing out FOX NOOSE is opinionated biased rubbish...tomato/tom-a-to and all that

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reasonator
Oct 18, 09 7:23 PM CDT

I have little problem with Obama refusing to do interviews with Fox. That's fine (though maybe a little hypocritical since he will still do interviews with MSNBC, but whatever). I have more of a problem with a government branch telling the public what is or is not a valid news organization. It is not the government's duty to tell us what constitutes a "real news organization."

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Rocket448
Oct 19, 09 1:30 AM CDT

Aw, shucks, guys, the WH isn't "taking on" Fox at all. Its position is that FOX is not a news organization and, as such, shouldn't have the access to the WH that news organizations have. There's no point in getting all frothy about the implications, this story is simply an opinion guy flexing his pen.

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stavi82
Oct 19, 09 9:27 AM CDT

If Faux has high-level execs go "missing" or being assassinated, then we can worry about totalitarianism. Until then, perhaps MSNBC will have exclusive coverage of the WH vs. FNC.

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foodchain11
Oct 19, 09 11:52 AM CDT

Absolutely! The truth has to win. This absurd lie, scream, acuse, blame, and then cry if it doesn't work is like watching VERY bad children being in charge without any parenting.

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thirdherd
Oct 19, 09 12:09 PM CDT

ROGUE you say ....if your the press and don't kiss the ass of the White House your a rogue member of the media. Rocky wake up You could be next if down the road you do not agree with them. Remember they attack all who disagree

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jamerican
Oct 18, 09 4:40 PM CDT

How could they...Fox tells the truth...unlike nobama. Reply

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Shannonals
Oct 18, 09 4:41 PM CDT

Great, yet another overt comment from jamerican.

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RockyPneumonia
Oct 18, 09 4:52 PM CDT

jamerican, please cite evidence that President Obama has consistently lied. Hint: Right-Wing Wackos screaming, "He did! He did!" is not "evidence".

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Bambi
Oct 18, 09 4:43 PM CDT

The argument is not WITH Fox, but for 'hearts and minds' out there that may be affected by Fox. There are some that won't be swayed by argument because they are not competent to understand argumentation (the Fox network base). However, if there is anyone that is not an automaton that actually wants to understand the debate, this unprecedented marginalization of a propaganda network by an articulate white house should be noteworthy. I think the disenfranchised 'thinking person' is being underestimated here. To let Fox run rough shod over reasoning while the white house sits on its hands would seem creepy to me, and could and should be confusing to young people that are wondering what to think about issues. Why shouldn't the white house state the obvious as a means to check a propaganda machine? I appreciate the low-key badgering the white house is offering, and I expect it will be effective. It is certainly good PR for democracy, for dictators around the world must take note--here, when we think a group to be fomenting hate and unpatriotic rebellion, here the president will just say "I'm not talking to you anymore", rather than have them arrested. It's a nice showcase for our democracy, I'd say. Reply

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theolddog
Oct 18, 09 4:45 PM CDT

Thinker, who do you think is the idiot, FNC or Obama? Reply

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Thinker
Oct 18, 09 5:23 PM CDT

Read the headline, hon. It might make more sense to you ...

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Cat-Lover
Oct 18, 09 4:49 PM CDT

I strongly disagree with Carr's conclusion. History lists and remembers administrations long after they're gone, but remembers few from media except those of the calibre of William Randolph Hearst, and we know how history treats him! Reply

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Snowleopard
Oct 19, 09 6:17 AM CDT

true. The White House shouldn't be afraid to slap a big label calling it out for what it is, a wing of the republican party.

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JoeQ
Oct 18, 09 5:04 PM CDT

The New York Times just wants to "circle the wagons" because they interpret the White House as attacking media. The white house is just fed up. The Times' solidarity is predictable but misguided. They should just get their own house in order and try to stay alive and relevant as a newspaper. Fox is a blight on the principle of a free press and an embarrassment to the country. Reply

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Bambi
Oct 18, 09 5:12 PM CDT

Well said, JoeQ!

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Thinker
Oct 18, 09 5:25 PM CDT

Ten thumbs up to both JoeQ and Bambi!

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GlennH
Oct 18, 09 5:35 PM CDT

I think it's great that they're willing to take on the Fox right-wing propaganda machine. Simply having the will and the integrity to do so is win! Reply

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cochiserocks
Oct 18, 09 5:52 PM CDT

Its a problem which The White House has at least dealt with in public - its long been known that 'access' is a card every administration has played on to try and gain the upper hand with the press. In the UK, Blair famously had his 'pitbulls' who savaged the BBC over the WMD thing - even got the head fired. At least The White House has come clean - normally, if you're black balled, you just don't get the call, the pass, the seat on airforce one, and the public are non the wiser. There's plenty of careers that have been cut short or at least slowed down by pissed White House staff. It's not new. Reply

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Jayster999
Oct 18, 09 5:54 PM CDT

Why all the fuss? When Bush(es) and Reagan occupied the white house EVERY news media outlet hounded them. Now,we have ONE media mouthpiece that harangues Obama and you libs are pissing your pants. Hounding the president is a time-honored tradition, get over it. Is Obummer supposed to have immunity because he's black, or "progressive"? Reply

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Robert_Dada
Oct 18, 09 6:09 PM CDT

You wouldn't get it even if I tried to explain it to you. Besides, it's Sunday. Don't you have a carpenter on a cross to pray to or something?

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QueenAlli
Oct 18, 09 6:21 PM CDT

Hounded is not the same as straight out Lying. And hounding should be left to the paparazzi not news organizations.

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ronimaca
Oct 18, 09 7:36 PM CDT

Fox is not news. Sesame Street Reporters make them look bad.

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CenterIndependant
Oct 18, 09 11:24 PM CDT

the difference is FOX isnt really news... I figured this out on my own.

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Snowleopard
Oct 19, 09 6:19 AM CDT

Bush and Reagan didn't have to deal with outright lies, like being accussed of being born in Kenya and being a Socialist. Nor did they have networks actively organizing protests against them. There is no comparison.

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cedarkey
Oct 18, 09 6:33 PM CDT

Annoy a progressive. Work hard, be happy, and enjoy life. Reply

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Face-Of-RNC
Oct 23, 09 7:01 AM CDT

Repetitive idiot.

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cedarkey
Oct 18, 09 6:37 PM CDT

PETA--------------- Patriots eating tasty animals. Reply

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ronimaca
Oct 18, 09 6:55 PM CDT

The President is doing the right thing. No one on one interviews with Fox. He isn't silencing them, just not talking with them. He isn't giving interviews to Mad Mag. or Highlights either. Five major channels have full access to the White House, he does not need fake reporter twisting his words, and spread the lies. Fox can go to hell. If I could get the cable co. to block Fox off my service I would love it. Reply

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Bambi
Oct 18, 09 9:51 PM CDT

Wow, Ronimaca--off topic, here, but dude, big props for namechecking 'Highlights' magazine. Are you a dental assistant or something?

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fiestygirl
Oct 19, 09 9:46 AM CDT

I met someone who had Dish Network or something or other. He had Fox News blocked. Personally I found it rather closed minded. I have all the "news" networks on my TV and chose when I wish to watch them or not. I also decide when to yell at the TV at certain times as well! Great fun and such a stress relieve. Know thy enemy right?

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Spudsy
Oct 18, 09 8:03 PM CDT

The people watching and listening to fox can't be reasoned with because they don't think in the first place. They just sit and hear a bunch of stuff and then they hear "flag" or "like it was when I was a kid" and then they approve whatever was said. The White House is blowing this one. They just need to pretend that fox doesn't exist. Bad move. Reply

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proud_prude
Oct 19, 09 12:18 PM CDT

Pretending FOX doesn't exist is about as sensible as pretending Ahrnedinejad doesn't exist.

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justme
Oct 18, 09 8:20 PM CDT

Amazing to watch the logic lines here. Fox does not follow the White House party line. The White House is hyper sensitive to criticism. Therefore, they must attack FNC as non-news thereby calling FNC viewers idiots. Certainly not the way to win friends or influence enemies. I don't get it. Perhaps the more capable minds around here can enlighten me? Reply

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freethemall
Oct 18, 09 9:26 PM CDT

Here's the whole thing, justme. The White House is not trying to Silence Fox "News". They just choose not to treat them as a legitimate news outlet, because they obviously are not a news organization. They are propaganda masquerading as news. And the same cannot be said of any other news outlet that I'm aware of.

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Jayster999
Oct 18, 09 9:45 PM CDT

freemall: Well, now you know how we feel. All of the other networks routinely spin the news to the left. What's wrong will some balance? Olbermann and Sanchez aren't neutral. Neither is Katie Couric, Chris Matthews, Larry King--or any other talking head. NBC, CBS, ABC, and MSNBC all spin to the left. You guys are just fit to be tied that you don't have all the marbles.

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Bambi
Oct 18, 09 10:13 PM CDT

Jayster999, I have to disagree with you yet again. There is virtually nobody pushing the real left' in America. Communism would be 'the left' channel if anyone was really promoting that on network television. Then there's fascism on the right, which would be, what?, White supremacists? The democractic so-called 'progressive' is in the middle (between communism and fascism), and the republican so-called 'conservative' is between the progressive in the middle and the fascist on the right. So, your geometry that would suggest that the debate is between left and right is off. The debate is between the middle (progressives--who are capitalists, mind you, though they may be socially progressive) and the conservatives (who are also capitalists, but who are generally social fascists) toward the right. As long as you stick to the flawed model that progressives are equidistantly to the left as conservatives are to the right, you will always wonder why these smart progressive types just won't 'compromise' with you. Progressives have already done the thinking work, and entered the discussion with compromise already integrated into their views, conservatives enter the debate stoicly self-serving and defensive of their stake in Apple Pie and Cheesecake (or hot-dog, flag, baseball, whatever symbolic nonsense is being used to represent the good ol' days of flagrant rascism and runaway consumerism). People, until you realize where your views are in the scheme of things, you will stay perplexed as to why people get bent out of shape by your opinions.

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Jayster999
Oct 18, 09 10:43 PM CDT

Bambi: Come on. Just you listen to yourself: "Progressives have already done the thinking work, and entered the discussion with compromise already integrated into their views..." This is a chief problem among leftists, you think that because you've read some texts on political theory or had a slew of liberal professors sell you their version of truth, that you are all-knowing and infallible. You're snobs. Elitist. And frankly, dear, that's dangerous territory for the rest of us. Pol Pot and his gang were "educated elitists" as were Lenin and Trotsky. My perspective on politics is quite different from yours. It doesn't matter whether you advocate left-wing or right-wing statism to me, my answer is "not simply no--but hell no." The promise of our nation was limited government--especially the federal government. Why? Because over the course of time, some evil motherf-ers are going to try and rob you blind and put a yoke on your neck. "Can't happen here"? Is happening here. The genie is out of the lamp and isn't taking orders from the people anymore. We have two choices: 1) We band together, across party lines and tell these thieves and murderers that we're on to them; or 2) We stand around like sheep until they take everything we ever held dear.

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freethemall
Oct 18, 09 11:08 PM CDT

@Jayster Just because a "talking head" is not a right wing ideologue, that doesn't make them a liberal. Let's take Chris Matthews, just as an example. You've heard of Media Matters I'm sure. I'm sure you agree that they are a liberal (by your definition) web site. And yet they named Chris Matthews as disinformer of the year, claiming that he skews his coverage to far the right. My point is that other news organizations at least attempt to be fair and balanced. Fox "News" does not. They use that slogan as a mockery. This is obvious to anybody with a truly open mind.

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freethemall
Oct 18, 09 11:08 PM CDT

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Bambi
Oct 19, 09 5:20 AM CDT

Jayster999, You demonstrate Fox-like rhetoric in trying to marginalize me by assuming/accusing that I am a disciple of liberal professors, and partial-understanding of theory from books, etc., and thus am an 'intellectual elitist'. (I am an original thinker, and have not taken influence from the sources you accuse, nor do I identify or conform to what might be implied by the phrasing 'intellectual elitist'.) Just for the sake or agrument, as you gave examples of intellectual dictators, there are explicitly anti-intellectual dictators, e.g., Adolph Hitler. Your point is nonsense--you can't marginalize intellect itself, for there is no consistent precedent for it's application as a force for good or evil. Your calling me 'elitist' is Fox-like in that it is a personal attack in place of an argument. It's clear why bible-thumpers have a fear of knowledge (because it doesn't flatter their anti-rational dogma), but what's your excuse? If you are done trying to defame the sources of my intellect (about which you bluster on, but know nothing), let's get on with discussing the matter at hand.Here the article is about Fox news and their propaganda machine as recently called out by the white house. Several (including you) are defending Fox as though what Fox does is the right-wing equivalent of what supposedly left-leaning news organizations do also. This is blatantly untrue, and there are an abundance of clues in the broadcasts of Fox news themselves to suggest that even they do not believe that their own spin supports a legitimate or moral view. The evidence is in the rhetoric, a flagrant and relentless cornucopia of traditional logical fallacies and appeals to unreasoning. It functions as an admission that 'truthfulness' isn't enough. The position needs to be iced to make it 'speak to' and motivate many people who might otherwise realize they have no stake in it if presented plainly. In truth, I notice and resent this tendency when members of any party do it, and condemn it in every case (I don't even want a position I agree with defended utilizing manipulative faux reasoning--clearly none in Fox's base has any compunction about this), but I have not seen such cheap and transparently manipulative rhetoric emanating from any other broadcast organization outside of Fox. (As an 'intellectual elitist', am I at least qualified by you to discuss rhetoric?) What I'm saying is that the rhetoric on Fox is already unacceptable even for a point of view that I might agree with, let alone for the dishonorable devices that Fox puts them to. My previous post merely decried the tragic and crippling delusion that Fox supporters have which assumes the justification of Fox's manipulations on the grounds that it counterbalances the left, which ostensibly 'comes from' as far left-of-center as conservatism comes from right-of-center. It's a delusion within a corruption within a delusion, to be specific.

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ronimaca
Oct 20, 09 11:00 AM CDT

Jayster999, the difference between Fox and every other channel is Fox lies and all the rest report the truth. That is why you think they are pro left. The right wing can't handle the truth. Crazy world left is right and right is wrong.

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professoraloha
Oct 18, 09 9:48 PM CDT

Fox is not a "news" network. It is a tabloid of manufactured news...so what else is new out there in TV land...can't believe anything you see as totally unbiased from one side or another. Reply

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professoraloha
Oct 18, 09 9:53 PM CDT

Whatever happened to real journalism? Why should any, supposedly "news" channel--take a stand at all? It's tabloidism--not journalism. Reply

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freethemall
Oct 18, 09 11:45 PM CDT

It is only Fox "News" that "takes a stand". All others at least attempt to be "fair and balanced". It is only Fox "News" that uses that slogan as a mockery. Don't pretend to yourself that other news outlets are the "leftist counterparts" of Fox "News". They aren't. Wake up!

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Guava_Jelly
Oct 18, 09 11:07 PM CDT

Whoaa!!! When the NY Times isn't on board with the WH it just shows how far LEFT they're position is Reply

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DarkFrancis
Oct 18, 09 11:10 PM CDT

It's very true. They are merely setting themselves up for more attack, and Fox will revel in it as long as it happens. Ignore them, they go away, just like any other one-note tardburger. Reply

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riffran
Oct 19, 09 12:16 AM CDT

what is so funny is...for a news network that isn't news, is entertainment only, and does nothing but lie, and being blacklisted and attacked by the white house no less, and loathed by the rest of the so called liberal drive by media...they sure seem to be doing quite fine thank you...FOX is just as valid or invalid on par with the rest of the same bunch...they just lean to the right, not the left Reply

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IllinoisBoy_IN_LA
Oct 19, 09 1:25 AM CDT

I'm sorry I voted for Obama. We have problems that need fixing, and our president wastes time bickering with a news network. GET TO WORK AND STOP SQUANDERING MONEY. I regret voting for him. Reply

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LiberalJesus
Oct 19, 09 8:25 AM CDT

If thats all it took for you to go from hot to cold I'd dare say you never voted for Obama. No one who supports their party and beliefs flips from AC to DC that fast unless they had no leanings to begin with or are out and out lying. I'm not sorry we're losing your "vote' as it were. One more fox viewer still keeps the overall viewrship right around 1% of the population.....Welcome to the 1%ers club IllinoisBoy!

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freethemall
Oct 19, 09 2:39 PM CDT

"our president wastes time bickering with a news network." Wrong on two counts: Our president is not bickering, and Fox "News" isn't a news network.

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oldgoat
Oct 19, 09 2:45 AM CDT

So it is terrible that he offends Fox that spends every hour finding something to complain about him or his administration no matter how much they have to fudge? I understand that Bush did the same so why worry. I agree that he probably shouldn't have done it, at least in public. All it does is get Fox more publicity. Reply

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drlarrymitchell
Oct 19, 09 2:49 AM CDT

It is a mistake to engage Faux Noose- it reaffirms that they exist. Reply

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unfathomedchaos
Oct 19, 09 5:54 AM CDT

Chris Wallace should have mentioned all the crybabies on Newser. Reply

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Snowleopard
Oct 19, 09 6:07 AM CDT

I'd like to point out that the Bush Administration and particularly Rumsfield were constantly complaining about the media. But instead of just one channel, it was "the liberal media" conspiring against them. The difference is that the Obama Administration's claims are based in reality. Reply

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Carpediem4U
Oct 19, 09 8:08 AM CDT

David Carr opinions mean nothing....hes as right winged as the come. Reply

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LiberalJesus
Oct 19, 09 8:21 AM CDT

I think the White House has already won. They do not have to give fox news the time of day in one on one interviews and that right there minimizes any thing fox has to say to the nation. fox cannot attract any more viewers that will watch for the sake of watching, it can only attract the nutbars and those who only watch fox and nothing. I know this to be a fact as several of our workers who enjoy fox have come out and said the reason they only watch fox is because they hate Obama anyway so watching fox is like rooting for the home team...ie, no "fair and balanced" when it comes to the president. And obviously this has angered fox execs or they wouldnt be making such a stink over it. And all the WH has done is point out the obvious, fox has an axe to grind with the President and the liberal agenda. They were always in the tank for the gop and big business but what little credibility they might have had dissloved during their teabaggin promoting. That was icing on the cake for any proof needed. Reply

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glassa
Oct 19, 09 8:56 AM CDT

WTF is their problem anyway? It's not enough that the rest of the media sucks up to him, they have to have ALL media in on this Cult of Personality? Does he want us all on our knees praising him or something? Geez, this guys ego is too much! Reply

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glassa
Oct 19, 09 9:01 AM CDT

"All others at least attempt to be "fair and balanced". " Oh, is that why Obama is biatching about FNC? Sorry, I don't buy the BS. He's throwing a childish temper tantrum because Fox is the one who doesn't bow down to his every whim & worship his authority. And that's also the reason liberals hate Fox News. They don't like it when someone questions Mr. Obama, as if he's such a perfect specimen of humanity or something. Obama's a jackass who needs to get over himself. Slavery went out with the 1860s, so we aren't forced to align our beliefs with his. Reply

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ezrider
Oct 19, 09 10:57 AM CDT

the best thing our president and the other politicians ,is to stick to solving the problems the American public is facing,why stop what you are doing and try to reason with a fool when he has no wisdom for it. Reply

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Adapt-Overcome
Oct 19, 09 4:04 PM CDT

I think the White House just needs to ignore the morons on FOX. Why even give them the time of day, although they are right. FOX is not a news network...they are right wing talk radio on camera....some people actually like to see the ugly people that spread the ugly words. Only the lunatics watch that stupid show anyway. So WHO REALLY CARES ABOUT FOX? Not the average American. Reply

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fiestygirl
Oct 19, 09 9:37 PM CDT

I have taken note of all of the arrogance on this subject. It appears to me that I am one of them damn dimwits you speak of. I find all of your comments funny actually and prove to me what an arrogant lot you all are. You bash what you fear or don't understand. I watch all of the network and cable news programs at different times. Maybe some of you would be well advised to open your minds a bit and be less critical of others who don't have the same views as you. Once they silence Fox they will come after those other more news worthy stations if they deem them out of step with their agenda...Be careful what you wish for, you may just get it and then some. Karma is a bitch you know! Reply

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cementhead
Oct 20, 09 11:03 AM CDT

If this is NOT an attempt to muzzle unfavorable media, then why would they say anything at all? This whole thing makes no sense otherwise. Obama is trying to silence negative press because....well, that's what socialists do and have always done. Most socialists eventually tolerate no dissent whatsoever and that's what the "brown shirts" and the "Guardia Seville" were all about. It's truly sad that just because there's a perfectly normal economic downturn, the American public is getting sucked-in on these radical policy changes. Right around the next corner all the borrowed money will have been spent and then it's payback time. Get ready for the asset sell-off and insane taxation period. Reply

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Guava_Jelly
Oct 21, 09 1:01 AM CDT

Something I saw earlier today- Modern liberal rules for debating with conservatives and libertarians. 1. The liberal is correct. 2. Failure to recognize rule #1 is proof positive the non-liberal is a moron. 3. Commence with childish, immature insults, and use that as proof of your moral superiority. Reply

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