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Matt Taibbi

Palin: Our First WWE Politician

Pick an asshole, any asshole, and she'll rock the house

Nov 22, 09 10:44 AM CST
analysis

Book Tour Shows Palin
Hitting a Nerve

'Going Rogue' phenomenon may foreshadow something bigger

Nov 22, 09 2:46 PM CST
the big plan

Beck Will Host Conventions
to Educate America

He's shifting toward political organizer, plans big DC rally

Nov 21, 09 5:06 PM CST
editorial

NYT to Blankfein:
Your 'Apology'
Is Bull

Editorial board schools Goldman CEO in true meaning of 'sorry'

Nov 22, 09 4:53 PM CST
Senate Democrats Clear
Health Care Hurdle, 60-39

Reid gets 60 votes to open full debate after Thanksgiving recess

Nov 21, 09 7:13 PM CST
Palin Pulls in Big Bucks
—for Democrats

'Going Rogue' boosts Dem fundraising to new high

Nov 21, 09 6:50 AM CST
NO COMMUNION FOR YOU, MY SON

RI Bishop Disses
Kennedy Over
Pro-Choice
Stance

Spat over Patrick's position on abortion escalates

Nov 22, 09 8:23 AM CST
who let the paranoids out?

46 Years After Kennedy, the Virus of Hate Is Back

Republican Rep. Louie Gohmert panders to dangerous paranoids

Nov 21, 09 9:08 AM CST
TALK SHOW ROUNDUP

McConnell:
Dems Proceed
at 2010 Peril

Senators hit the Sunday talk shows after health vote

Nov 22, 09 11:15 AM CST
Billboard Links Obama to Jihad

Colo. car dealership wants this opinion heard

Nov 20, 09 8:42 PM CST
Eyes on 2010

Lincoln
Swings to
Center of
Health Debate

Dems come calling as GOP eyes her seat in 2010

Nov 22, 09 1:03 PM CST
HE'S GOT A BOOK OUT, TOO

Beck to Unveil
'Big Plan' at
Saturday Rally

Righty pundit OK with destroying Dems and GOP

Nov 20, 09 8:07 PM CST
Neglected Ind. Fans Boo Palin

Hecklers accuse her of 'quitting on the job'

Nov 20, 09 3:50 PM CST

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ANALYSIS

You Betcha: Palin Won't Run

She has nothing to gain, and no hope of victory

By Kevin Spak| Posted Oct 21, 09 12:38 PM CDT|

(Newser) – Tom Schaller is so sure that Sarah Palin won’t run in 2012, and wouldn’t be nominated if she did, that he’s made a bet on it with fellow FiveThirtyEight.com writer Nate Silver. Schaller’s argument, in a nutshell, is that short of winning the presidency or at least the nomination, Palin has little to gain—and she probably won’t win, either.

Unseating an incumbent president is notoriously tough, but Palin probably wouldn’t even get that far. She’s currently trailing in the polls, without a demographic base; Mitt Romney trounces her among moderates; Mike Huckabee amongst conservatives. Besides, she’s already a celebrity with a best-selling book, and she resigned so early that that might be all she wants. “The opportunity costs of running seem higher than not running,” concludes Schaller. “Methinks she will play stay-at-home hockey-mom in 2012.”

Republican vice presidential candidate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin speaks to a crowd during a rally at the Missouri statehouse in Jefferson City, Mo. Monday, Nov. 3, 2008. (AP Photo/Charlie Riedel)

Republican vice presidential candidate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin speaks to supporters during a rally, Monday, Nov. 3, 2008, in Dubuque, Iowa. (AP Photo/Charlie Neibergall)

Republican vice presidential candidate, Alaska Sarah Palin wraps up her speech at a campaign stop at the airport in Colorado Springs, Colo., Monday, Nov. 3, 2008. (AP Photo/David Zalubowski)

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godawgs
Oct 21, 09 12:42 PM CDT

good, she doesn't bring a serious candidate to the republican party. If she is going to try and run let her go now against President Obama. the beating might be bad enough that she will quite trying to divide the Republican party and we can have a serious candidate in 2016. Reply

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dontlikeyou
Oct 21, 09 12:56 PM CDT

LOL. A liberal blogger is betting Sarah Palin won't run and this is news? LOL!

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Fondue
Oct 21, 09 1:01 PM CDT

You can always hit up FoxSkews, DLY.

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kokuaguy
Oct 21, 09 1:22 PM CDT

Those are the reasons she won't run. Anyone who thinks she's stupid is naive. She knows that If she stays out and supports the ticket in 2012 she can perhaps transform herself into a serious candidate by 2016.

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hamsammichs
Oct 21, 09 2:35 PM CDT

FoxSkews! That's so fresh! Because FoxNews is the only biased news outlet! On subject though, thank God Palin won't even be considered. The Republicans really wouldn't have a chance then.

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redwood
Oct 21, 09 11:00 PM CDT

Sarah Palin is the only rock star in American politics.With only fiew wards on Face Book she killed Obamacare.Who else in America could have done that??? Who???!!! Millions of people not onlylike her,they adore her,admire her. White House and the rest of the libs are scared and petrified of her. Sarah,rock on to the White House

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NewserScooter
Oct 22, 09 12:27 AM CDT

Kokua, I tend to agree with you here. I don't think she will run in 2012, but I know folks who have visited who say she is. I will bet no though. I would not rule out a sen. bid.

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oldgoat
Oct 22, 09 4:19 AM CDT

I think that she will be in the mix just to keep up her publicity, but to be honest if she would run and either not make the ticket or get defeated it would put a serious hurt on her stature. Better to be like Rush, Coulter, Beck and Hannity and stand on the sidelines throwing rocks knowing that you would do worse if you were on the recieving end.

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Stasis
Oct 21, 09 12:42 PM CDT

Besides...someone has to stay home and take care of Trik, Trak, Frig, Frak and Squid... Reply

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godawgs
Oct 21, 09 12:52 PM CDT

you used that the other day..

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jbcorny
Oct 21, 09 12:54 PM CDT

why mess with good material?

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dontlikeyou
Oct 21, 09 12:57 PM CDT

It's quite juvenile, actually. Of course, if you're 13.....

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Fondue
Oct 21, 09 1:02 PM CDT

DLY is above calling names and cracking wise.

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jbcorny
Oct 21, 09 1:07 PM CDT

if youre 13 and a palin progeny youre likely to be pregnant [rim shot].

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drlarrymitchell
Oct 21, 09 1:25 PM CDT

I think Palin has more than one "Trick" baby, if you follow.

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ronimaca
Oct 21, 09 4:23 PM CDT

dontlikeyou thinks he is the only one in the brain trust.

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Adapt-Overcome
Oct 21, 09 12:44 PM CDT

Why do people kee prefering to her as a Hockey Mom, as I recall, she was an absentee mom and her son spent more time in the box than on the ice. Sarah Palin couldn't stand the heat of the Governors office, who in their right mind would vote for her to take over the highest office in our Country. Reply

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atomick
Oct 21, 09 12:45 PM CDT

I predict she's going to die of asphyxiation around 2011 when she forgets to breathe. Reply

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BlahBlahBlah
Oct 21, 09 12:45 PM CDT

If she runs it will be a side show just like everything else she does. Reply

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ezrider
Oct 22, 09 8:59 AM CDT

i hope she runs, i love those Tina Fey impressions of her

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schmidtkoff
Oct 21, 09 12:51 PM CDT

thank the gods who be. her candle burned out long ago. if perchance she decides to run she might be nominated by beck et al but given any debates she would most certainly stumble and fall and make a more damned fool of herself than she already is.a snowballs chance in hell so as to speak. Reply

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dontlikeyou
Oct 21, 09 12:59 PM CDT

It was unanimously held that she defeated Biden in the televised debate. Only a fool (like you) can ignore truth to revel in their own stupidity.

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Fondue
Oct 21, 09 1:04 PM CDT

Aaaww boy, this is why we like you so much.

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godawgs
Oct 21, 09 1:12 PM CDT

@dly it was not unanimously held that she won the debate. there were multiple outlets that claimed her the winner but there were more that claimed Biden won.

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drlarrymitchell
Oct 21, 09 1:20 PM CDT

DLY- are you MANIACALLY high? Palin didn't win squat.

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DarkFrancis
Oct 21, 09 3:54 PM CDT

It was not unanimous, DLY. The main thing that came out of the VP debate was the 'Joe' set-up, proving that Winky had been coached to within an inch of her life. She had troubles putting together a sentence on her own, just like the then incumbent. I know you are mad for the poor little dolt, but somewhere along the line you've been duped.

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ronimaca
Oct 21, 09 4:28 PM CDT

dontlikeyou Did you watch the debate? Where do you get your information from? Oh that rights Fox

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NewserScooter
Oct 22, 09 12:29 AM CDT

She won that debate. For many reasons, and with most objective reviewers of the night. But the point is that was Biden, anyone could have beaten him, certainly most of the people on both sides that post here could.

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kirby
Oct 22, 09 10:03 AM CDT

I could have defeated Biden that night and any night. I think he was kicked in the head by a mule when he was young. He's an idiot!

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Reader83540559
Oct 21, 09 12:59 PM CDT

Please don't run Sarah. Work hard for another candidate. We can't stand Obama another four years. We have smart people to challenge him and win. I do think independents and republicans are ready and willing to work. We have got to stop groups like acorn from falsifying our elections. It is impossible for me to believe Obama won an honest election. Reply

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kokuaguy
Oct 21, 09 1:16 PM CDT

Then it's possible for you to believe there are dishonest elections in the US-- understandable in light of the results in 2000 and 2004. But where is your evidence that there were stuffed ballot boxes or rigged voting machines in 2008? Have Hannity, Limbaugh, O'Reilly or Beck rnade such charges? You must be an oracle then-- or perhaps a delusional racist?

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godawgs
Oct 21, 09 1:22 PM CDT

@kg wow good call going to racist, I don't think that we have heard that a couple of hours. what is your issue with the 2004 election W carried 31 states and won 50% of the popular vote?

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usmc52@peoplepc.com
Oct 21, 09 6:45 PM CDT

What a fool you and your kind are. You readilly support a woman who has a slut for a daughter and a traitor for a husband. Repubs. say anything to try and win. You forget all the hate mongoring she started and you f--ks looked the other way, just like you daddy and momma did 35 years ago. How do you look in the mirror?

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dontlikeyou
Oct 21, 09 1:01 PM CDT

Here is why Liberals can never pick the GOP candidate. Liberals hated GWB... totally despised the man. GWB wins two terms. Liberals had a quasi-love affair with John McCain. John McCain loses the election in a squeaker. So, yeah, if you libs despise a potential GOP candidate, that tells me that is the candidate that should be and IS feared by the kooky left. Reply

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drlarrymitchell
Oct 21, 09 1:21 PM CDT

Nothing squeaky about 2008, and Bushie had to invent a war to keep people from dumping his sorry ass midstream in 2004.

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kirby
Oct 22, 09 9:57 AM CDT

Invent a war? Are you trying to tell me that the war isn't a real one, that it was made up by Bush? So I guess all the people that died were made up too. Like there was no plane that hit the pentagon, so... where did all the people go that died on that flight? I bet there families will be happy to know they are just being kept in a bunker somewhere...you Jack@ss.

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polstroad
Oct 21, 09 1:10 PM CDT

enough with Palin. If she is a candidate, post...if she remarries, post. The Editor of this site needs to get off the Palin this and Palin that---why not report on her acid reflux? Reply

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emptycalm
Oct 21, 09 1:11 PM CDT

Why would any conservative want her to run? She's an idiot. Like...really. She's not smart and should be far from politics. There are other conservatives with more brain power that could be picked. It just seems silly to me that anyone even in their wrong mind would think shes viable. Reply

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drlarrymitchell
Oct 21, 09 1:22 PM CDT

Conservatives can't see their own stupidity, let alone that of a fellow useful idiot.

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Jayster999
Oct 21, 09 2:25 PM CDT

"Useful idiots" are those who unknowingly help communists, much like yourself.

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kirby
Oct 22, 09 10:07 AM CDT

Oh sure, if you don't like Obame you MUST be a racist. Get a grip kokuaguy, I'm really getting tired of that line of trash.

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Jayster999
Oct 21, 09 2:24 PM CDT

Palin needs to go to the back burner. We need to galvanize the conservatives in the party by offering up a stronger choice. By the time the next election rolls around, people will be begging for change and a weak moderate will not be nearly enough to undo the damage done by Barry. Reply

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Galileo
Oct 21, 09 3:49 PM CDT

Realities you should start trying to accept: (1) Healthcare reform will pass, and you won't be able to "undo" it when Obama leaves office and go back to the old insurance system. (2) If gay marriage becomes legal across the nation during Obama's presidency, you will never be able to reverse it. (3) You will never be able to reverse the legality of abortion. (4) You will never get prayer back in school. GG

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godawgs
Oct 21, 09 4:02 PM CDT

@gal actaully you are wrong on all points. Everything that is put into place by one president can be changed by the next president. if that wasn't the case women wouldn't be able vote and we would still have slaves.

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Galileo
Oct 21, 09 4:23 PM CDT

@godawgs: You've walked right into the wall. All those things I said have something very important in common with the two things you said: THEY GRANTED RIGHTS. Boy you sure got me there, they did reverse and give women the right to vote, and they did reverse and free the slaves. Two cases where rights were granted because of a reversal. I didn't say, "You can never reverse something a President does." My post was in support of the fact that you will never be able to reverse cases where rights were granted. You will never reverse something and RE-TAKE rights from people who have them. Everything I said will not be reversed are cases of rights being granted. Health care reform for everyone is giving everyone the right to health care. Gay marriage is giving a group of people rights. The legality of abortion gives women the right to choice. And removing prayer in school gives people freedom FROM religion (remember you can pray privately, they didn't lose any rights.) So I'm sure you thought you really got me with your examples, but you actually made my case stronger by clarifying it. GG.

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ronimaca
Oct 21, 09 4:37 PM CDT

what is your definition of communist? Don't throw big words around if your sure of what it means.

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godawgs
Oct 21, 09 6:05 PM CDT

@gal great I think, so explain to me again how when health care reform passes and is granted to everyone, when the next President comes into office ans says screw that we aren't giving people health care anymore and takes it away its still a right? See you can physically take something back after you grant it. You are thinking that it just won't happen. We could very well go back to the old insurance system, abortions could be made illegal, gay marriages could be revoked, look at CA, that was a right for what 6 mths, and now no more. I think that you confused yourself in your post.

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Galileo
Oct 21, 09 7:03 PM CDT

@godawgs - Yes, I know you can physically take something back after you grant it. I addressed that when I said I DID NOT MEAN you can never reverse something a President does. Of course I mean I THINK it will not happen, BASED ON THE HISTORY OF AMENDMENTS/POLICIES where RIGHTS ARE GRANTED. I find it irritating when someone responds to a post like "bet ya didn't think of that," but I actually did and already addressed it. It's frustrating to have to say the same thing over and over again until you understand. But I guess that's my fault for not being detailed enough? So again, for you godawgs, my point is that -->I DON'T THINK <-- those things would ever be reversed because if you look at history, in cases where rights are granted, we don't go backwards and reverse it, taking away the rights. Like, for example, women's suffrage and the end of slavery. Do you think it is likely that we will reverse those? No, of course we won't. But according to you, we could very well go back to slavery because it's physically possible to reverse it. Right? And your example of CA is not the same because it's more complicated i.e. they moved it out of the courts to be a voting issue. So just to double check your reading comprehension, my argument is NOT that it is physically impossible for the President to reverse something, my argument is that based on the history of cases where rights are granted, we don't really tend to reverse the decision and take the rights away. So I suppose I didn't confuse myself. I guess you just didn't understand? Yikes, embarrassing. I think you'd have better luck debating if you actually respond to what I say. Good try though. Reply

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Galileo
Oct 21, 09 7:13 PM CDT

Sorry I meant to add this. Since I'm sure you'll still disagree, we'll do the same posting exchange, but this time with your examples. I SAY: You will never reverse women's suffrage or return blacks to slavery. YOU SAY: Actually you're wrong on all points galileo. Everything that is put into place by one president can be changed by the next president. This highlights the fact that I'm basing my position off of history and reason, and your position is that you've got me on the technicality that it is in fact POSSIBLE. I think we can all see how silly it is :) Reply

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NewserScooter
Oct 22, 09 12:32 AM CDT

Exactly why Healthcare reform is not likely to pass. But I would add G-d has never left the schools, at least not the better ones, and I agree Abortion laws will not be reversed. and BTW Bush never tried.

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yummines
Oct 21, 09 7:41 PM CDT

I don't know, can we really trust someone who can't take the heat as a governor as a president? Chances are that she may fade into obscurity since she quit her job as a governor. I can't predict the future, but I doubt that even if she is considered for a future run as president, there will be someone more prominent who has risen through the ranks to take her place. Reply

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Spudsy
Oct 22, 09 12:05 AM CDT

She could easily get the nomination as Dems cross over to vote for her in the primaries. Please please please run. Reply

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NewserScooter
Oct 22, 09 12:33 AM CDT

Hell that worked for Obama. Ask Hillary.

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DeniseVB
Oct 22, 09 10:50 AM CDT

Sarah really has the left "dithering". Faux books and all. She'll be fine whatever she chooses to do, as she's a strong lady who's still more qualified to be President than Obama. Reply

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Caps
Oct 22, 09 11:11 AM CDT

More qualified than Obama? Bull sh$$. She is dumb as a sack of sh$$. This bimbo is a quitter, and is only after the money. Reply

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