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12 Dead, 31 Wounded in Fort Hood Shootings

Soldier gunman is dead; two other suspects are in custody

Posted Nov 5, 09 4:09 PM CST|

(AP) – Twelve people are dead and 31 wounded after a shooting spree at Fort Hood, the Texas Army base. One shooter is among the dead and two more suspects are in custody. All are US soldiers, said an Army official. All the casualties took place at the base's Soldier Readiness Center, where those who are about to be deployed or who are returning undergo medical screening. The primary shooter opened fire with two handguns about 1:30pm.

President Obama called the incident a "horrific outburst of violence" and said his thoughts were with the families of victims. He promised the government would get answers to "every single question." Fort Hood is the largest US Army base in the world, home to about 40,000 soldiers and their families.

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Doctor_Zaius
Nov 5, 09 2:46 PM CST

Any bets on a motive? It is Guy Fawkes day.... Reply

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Jes
Nov 5, 09 2:54 PM CST

I seriously doubt these guys are running around in Guy Fawkes masks, or that a British holiday really has anything at all to to with this.

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jimg
Nov 5, 09 2:57 PM CST

Wholly unnecessary. Why try so hard to comment so often? You haven't seem to be a troll in the past.

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George_Taylor
Nov 5, 09 2:58 PM CST

It is a British holiday, but it's a good day to celebrate anyway. Though here, I think it is a coincidence.

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johntitor
Nov 5, 09 3:00 PM CST

My mind went there too Zaius...I really hope its just some crazies..

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KurtRambis4va
Nov 5, 09 3:00 PM CST

Don't mind Dr Z...He spends most of his time trying to prove his intellect by making esoteric comments like this

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KurtRambis4va
Nov 5, 09 3:04 PM CST

Well I'll be goddammed...They caught the culprit and on live television he yelled "viva Guy Fawkes!" Dr. Z was right

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KurtRambis4va
Nov 5, 09 3:04 PM CST

...joke

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Doctor_Zaius
Nov 5, 09 3:09 PM CST

My hunch was that there may have been a symbolic tie-in. The tea-baggers chose this day to march on Washington. Fawkes was anti-establishment. I don't know. Maybe I should have rephrased it. Apologies to all offended.

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KurtRambis4va
Nov 5, 09 3:14 PM CST

No need for apologies...Just no need to politicize everything that passes the news wire

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Reader83540559
Nov 5, 09 4:17 PM CST

Who is Guy Fawkes? Sorry , my memory is bad.

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geneparmesan
Nov 5, 09 4:21 PM CST

V for Vendetta guy...you are typing a comment on the internet...Google much?

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dontlikeyou
Nov 5, 09 4:37 PM CST

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cunomor
Nov 5, 09 9:12 PM CST

I think we know the motive now.....

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stavi82
Nov 6, 09 10:45 AM CST

DLY, how can you type with your dick in one hand and your other thumb up your ass?

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doingtherightthing
Nov 5, 09 2:57 PM CST

Muslim terrorists I suspect......notice; they won't identify the suspects. I'd say the press is going to hide this fact and push it under carpet because there blind to justice and caught up in political correctness....if I'm right then Obama has a lot of explaining to do because this is on his watch! He can't blame Bush this time...... Reply

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Doctor_Zaius
Nov 5, 09 3:11 PM CST

And what if they are domestic?

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geneparmesan
Nov 5, 09 3:13 PM CST

this is still happening moron, they never release the names of the suspects AT LEAST for a couple hours...

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geneparmesan
Nov 5, 09 3:15 PM CST

It doesn't matter Dr. Z, Obama is responsible for everything that goes wrong in this country, but hes not responsible for anything that goes right

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Jes
Nov 5, 09 3:18 PM CST

I'm with Doc Z on this one. My money says they are American citizens.

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Fondue
Nov 5, 09 3:20 PM CST

I knew there would be one to blame Obama. But what if you are wrong? Who will you blame? Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, Savage, Liddy, Jones?

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Corona_Kinq
Nov 5, 09 3:27 PM CST

It was probably a soldier or someone in the military since they got a high powered rifle into a guarded army base.....shrugs

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Toon
Nov 5, 09 3:34 PM CST

Dollars to donuts, the shooters are conservatives, either militia or teabaggers.

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BlueAyez
Nov 5, 09 3:34 PM CST

Palin, Bachman and all the others.

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Corona_Kinq
Nov 5, 09 3:37 PM CST

I honestly think people that do this kind of thing don't fall to the left or the right, they're just douchebags that need to be gone from society. No mainstream political affiliation condones this behavior.

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geneparmesan
Nov 5, 09 3:50 PM CST

Army saying suspects were soldiers...fucking Obama!

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doingtherightthing
Nov 5, 09 3:51 PM CST

monkeyboy.....brainwashed Muslim terrorists from anywhere will attack black, brown or white.......you attack a military installation, its preceived sign to be a terrorist attack first. Not a bunch of crazies as some have suggested..... Who are we at war with in this world ? "Muslims". Who wants to kill you? "Muslims". Hold onto that thought when the truth comes forth.....Obamas job is to protect us, not to ignore terrorism because of his ideology about isalm......there the enemy!

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johntitor
Nov 5, 09 3:53 PM CST

Yeah they want to kill us all because they hate our freedoms....do you have any idea? Jeeze go read a book...talk about brainwashing...Oh and its "their"

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geneparmesan
Nov 5, 09 3:55 PM CST

actually, its uh...they're

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johntitor
Nov 5, 09 3:55 PM CST

Ooops now its me..."they're"

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johntitor
Nov 5, 09 3:56 PM CST

...Thats what i get for getting hot in the collar lol

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Corona_Kinq
Nov 5, 09 3:57 PM CST

Evidently you're at war with the English language doingtherightthing. The real enemy here is grammar!

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geneparmesan
Nov 5, 09 3:57 PM CST

happens

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EileenRocks
Nov 5, 09 5:18 PM CST

Nope. US Soldier(s) who didn't want to deploy to the Endless wars... and so decided to add to the body count over here. How is that Obama's fault?

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thejoint00
Nov 5, 09 5:39 PM CST

the guy's name is Malik Nadal Hasan and he's islamic. I'm not trying to say that all middle easterns are bad but I do think it's a common trait among those that are.

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thejoint00
Nov 5, 09 5:44 PM CST

21 thumbs down and what do know it freaking is a Muslim. No other explanation necessary. And, oh yea, they are still taking jihad seriously.

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Doctor_Zaius
Nov 5, 09 9:31 PM CST

The dude was an army major. It don't matter what his last name is, it's domestic.

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davjc09
Nov 5, 09 2:57 PM CST

Wish they would have done this to some Congressmen instead... Reply

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Jes
Nov 5, 09 3:17 PM CST

Here's an idea, how about wishing it hadn't happened at all? And though I think many (well, most) of Congress is comprised or dickholes, I don't wish any of them shot.

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Yourself
Nov 5, 09 4:21 PM CST

davjc -100 if i could.. definite + for Jes's comment..

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johntitor
Nov 5, 09 2:58 PM CST

Whoa im like 15 miles from this... Reply

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Jes
Nov 5, 09 3:16 PM CST

Then turn on the local and get us some news, man! Also, lock your doors.

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johntitor
Nov 5, 09 3:21 PM CST

Possibly THREE gunmen...

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Liberal_Fascist
Nov 5, 09 2:58 PM CST

I'm watching coverage on CNN, partly because I can't believe what a douche Rick Sanchez is. Seriously, he's such an idiot that I can't bring myself to switch channels. It's *that* bad. Aside from that, I'm extremely curious about who's behind this. One guy would be a whack-job. More than one points at a some sort of organized plot. How horrible for our troops, who've already been placed under terrible stress. Reply

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geneparmesan
Nov 5, 09 3:38 PM CST

Sanchez, the Twitter news king

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geneparmesan
Nov 5, 09 3:59 PM CST

I dont know why Im getting thumbs down for previous comment, anyone who has ever watched Sanchez knows he spends more time than anyone in the news reporting Twitter comments....worthless news

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IndyRick
Nov 5, 09 3:03 PM CST

Reuters is reporting that a graduation was scheduled later today... Reply

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Reader76693465
Nov 5, 09 3:22 PM CST

Good lord, why? Our military members are the most important members of society. My heart goes out to the families and friends. Reply

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dontlikeyou
Nov 5, 09 4:40 PM CST

Our military members are respected, but I would not say they are the most important. That's just silly.

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Shannonals
Nov 5, 09 5:27 PM CST

Why am I not amazed by your comments dontlikeyou? Spoken like a person who has never served his country and/or lost a family member defending our nation.

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stavi82
Nov 6, 09 10:53 AM CST

My money is dontlikeyou is French. I bet he is a fat basement-dwelling frog-sucking sociopathic momma's boy who wouldn't know what to do with a gun if "ze Germans" invade again.

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Sammy
Nov 5, 09 3:38 PM CST

Home grown terrorist? Militias? With all the hate talk spewing and agitation across the country, it would not be a surprise. Reply

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Reader83540559
Nov 5, 09 4:33 PM CST

The conservatives get blamed for all the hate. Nobody knows hate and devisiveness like a holier than thou bunch of liberals they defend the deviants with a passion. It is just plain sickening.

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Fondue
Nov 5, 09 3:43 PM CST

We also need to keep in mind that there are members of hate groups in our military. Reply

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doingtherightthing
Nov 5, 09 3:55 PM CST

name one...Muslims maybe......

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Fondue
Nov 5, 09 4:03 PM CST

The SPLC says it has found "dozens of personal profiles of individuals listing 'military' as their occupation on a neo-Nazi, Facebook-type website." (The site is called New Saxon, and it bills itself as "A Social Networking Site for People of European Descent" and an "online community for whites by whites.") The group complains that the Pentagon has failed to take "forceful action" against extremists in the military despite acknowledging in a 2008 report that the problem has gotten worse.

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Fondue
Nov 5, 09 4:04 PM CST

The last line here is key so read the whole thing.

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Yourself
Nov 5, 09 4:42 PM CST

@doingtherightthing - you definitely aren't doing the right thing by being so stereotypical and ignorant with your comments. you're name is rather hypocritical to say the least. Fondue is right, and i've personally read the same articles that state the facts about hate groups within the military, it's disturbing to say the least. Being Muslim isn't a hate group, that's a religion. Just cause there's a few radicals doesn't make them all the same, take christians for example, i know plenty of racist ones, but they aren't all racist.

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dontlikeyou
Nov 5, 09 4:42 PM CST

Fondue, blacks refer to themselves as African Americans. Are you saying it is racist to refer to oneself as of European descent? Just curious.

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Fondue
Nov 5, 09 4:54 PM CST

@ DLY, The site - is called - New Saxon - they bill - their website - as "A Social Networking Site for People of European Descent" and an "online community for whites by whites. --- Not my words - theirs. That's why I used the quotes. Is English that difficult for you?

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godawgs
Nov 5, 09 4:58 PM CST

@fondue then I am sure that you will also point out other sites such as blackplanet, asian avenue, etc....

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Fondue
Nov 5, 09 5:02 PM CST

Why?

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Fondue
Nov 5, 09 5:06 PM CST

Have you been to New Saxon? Take a look. Also, I'm a user on BlackPlanet as are thousands of honky's.

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godawgs
Nov 5, 09 5:13 PM CST

@fondue since you mention a site that is for whites by whites I thought that you would mention the site this for blacks by blacks and the same with the Asian site. the black planet moniker is "the largest Black community online. Your destination for what's relevant to you and the African American community" unless of course you are implying that only white people can be in hate groups.

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godawgs
Nov 5, 09 5:14 PM CST

@fondue I haven't been to new saxon, i will look but i checked out that new fronter or storm front or whatever it is and those guys have some issues. I also looked at the socialistworker site you went to, interesting stuff.

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Fondue
Nov 5, 09 5:21 PM CST

New Saxon is about the same. It's myspace for nazi's and racists. Where as ALL are welcomed at BlackPlanet. I've never been to AsianAve so....

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godawgs
Nov 5, 09 5:23 PM CST

again I will check out the other one but I take your word for it. some of the sites just make you stupid for going to them, and after i visited the stormfront i felt my IQ drop.

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d3wd
Nov 5, 09 5:48 PM CST

The SPLC has no credibility.

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cochiserocks
Nov 5, 09 3:50 PM CST

whatever the story - no doubt it will all come out soon enough. Meantime - how dumb would you have to be to start a war on an army base?!?! Whoever is involved, they're obviously not right in the head. Reply

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GeminiMishy
Nov 5, 09 3:58 PM CST

Can we at least wait for the bodies to cool before we go spewing political bias all over this? Come on people, it doesn't matter who anyone votes for, this is a despicable tragedy. My heart goes out to everyone affected by it. Reply

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waloki
Nov 5, 09 4:16 PM CST

Consequences of the paranoia spread by Beck, Malkin et al Reply

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Reader83540559
Nov 5, 09 4:26 PM CST

After reading some of yor progressive answers it's obvious .Uh-Oh somebody has been bullying again? Reply

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godawgs
Nov 5, 09 4:34 PM CST

the main shooter has been identified as Malik Hassen. So maybe there a Muslim link there. http://www.kxxv.com/global/story.asp?s=11451553 Reply

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EileenRocks
Nov 5, 09 5:31 PM CST

Yeah, and he is/was an Army Major, too. If he was cleared to join the Army, he's not a terrorist. Just a soldier freaking out about being deployed. (<-- is an USAF Vet)

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godawgs
Nov 5, 09 5:36 PM CST

@eileen that is an incorrect assessment. He could have become a terrorist after he converted to Islam.

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stavi82
Nov 6, 09 10:58 AM CST

I don't get why he didn't just wait a few more days and shoot the people that really deserve it. Anyone one of those troops he shot would have taken a bullet for him in combat. Instead, they took one by him. Malik Hasan was just a coward, and I hope he never gets his 72 virgins. Unless they are virgin wolverines. Red, white, and blue wolverines. Singing the US National Anthem.

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Reader83540559
Nov 5, 09 4:35 PM CST

Some home grown converted to muslim Hate it but it is probably true. Reply

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CaptainZ64
Nov 5, 09 5:13 PM CST

Well Fondue it looks like your hate group mantra has failed. Apparently the shooter was a muslim convert. Are you ready to acknowledge that not all hateful people are Christians? Reply

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Fondue
Nov 5, 09 6:30 PM CST

Have known that for years. Got anything new?

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doingtherightthing
Nov 5, 09 6:38 PM CST

trolls what did I say earlier;.Muslims/terrorists. You say; can't be, no way.. . WERE AT WAR TROLLS. Get it. This is a sleeper cell right in our military trolls. Some people are so stupid that if you hit them with a 2x4 they wouldn't feel it. Trolls stand in line; I have my 2x4 ready......idiots Reply

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MarkMcJackoff
Nov 6, 09 2:47 AM CST

Yup, spot on there - does no-one see this kind of thing coming. A US Army MAJOR is an IMAM at his local Mosque and takes his morning coffee wearing full Muslim garb. The soft underbelly of America is so fuckin' soft this Muslim bozo fanatic will probably get off on humanitarian grounds - " You know, it was all a bit too much for him, he snapped! Get real America - The Barbarians are no longer "At The Gate" They are well inside it!

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johntitor
Nov 6, 09 6:31 PM CST

*facepalm* Go and look up what trolling is please....expressing an opinion like most of the posts here; not trolls. Posting an opinion thats not necessarily factual just to get a rise out of people= trolling. Dontlikeyou= troll (posts outrageous to get attention and incite) Just because someone has a different opinion doesn't make them a troll. Damn newfags...

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Reader83540559
Nov 5, 09 8:14 PM CST

YEP , A MUSLIM jUST WHAT I THOUGHT AND SAID EARLIER. WE HAVE GOT OUR HANDS FULL AND YOU PROGRESSIVES ARE ABOUT TO HAVE A CHANCE TO WAKE UP AND SMELL THE DEATH OF AMERICA AS WE HAVE KNOWN IT IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT YOU SHOULD BE HAPPY Reply

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cunomor
Nov 5, 09 9:14 PM CST

"Dollars to donuts, the shooters are conservatives, either militia or teabaggers." You. Are. A. Douche. Reply

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BoZo
Nov 6, 09 11:57 AM CST

I never locked my door on base. Why the need? A military base on US soil is the safest place around. Boy was I wrong. Reply

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Shannonals
Nov 6, 09 7:00 PM CST

Are you serious BoZo? Have you seen the crime reports on the base blotters lately. I would definitely recommend locking your doors.

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