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Witnesses: Major Yelled 'Allahu Akbar' Before Firing

Family says he is devout, not extremist

By John Johnson| Posted Nov 6, 09 9:01 AM CST|

(Newser) – Witnesses to the Fort Hood rampage say gunman Nidal Malik Hasan shouted "Allahu Akbar"—Arabic for "God is Great"—as he opened fire. The Army hasn't confirmed the callout during the "calm and measured" shooting spree that killed 13. Hasan is a devout Muslim, but family members and acquaintances say he didn't hold extremist views—only that he was "mortified" about being deployed to Afghanistan and wanted out of the Army.

Military officials have not been able to talk to Hasan, who was shot four times himself and is on a ventilator. Authorities continue to investigate whether he authored Internet posts glorifying suicide bombers, and police raided his house today to seize his computer and look for other clues. The Army psychiatrist reportedly took aim at military personnel in the Fort Hood building and warned civilians to get out of the way, reports the New York Post.

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A military police officer stands guard at the entrance of Fort Hood, Texas, Friday, Nov. 6, 2009. (AP Photo/LM Otero)

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tomodachi
Nov 6, 09 9:04 AM CST

"Was not" extremist appears to be past tense. Reply

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dontlikeyou
Nov 6, 09 9:06 AM CST

But, Islam is a religion of peace. Isn't that what we are told?

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alkaseltzersammich
Nov 6, 09 9:20 AM CST

Islam and Christianity are religions of peace until they are perverted by ass clowns like dontlikeyou.

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tomodachi
Nov 6, 09 9:22 AM CST

@DLY: so is Christianity... so what? you think EVERYBODY is the equivalent of ANYBODY in the group? If that were true... everybody here would be ignorantly stoking the republican agenda... like you.

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jamerican
Nov 6, 09 9:37 AM CST

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Reader64481089
Nov 6, 09 9:44 AM CST

"Islam and Christianity are religions of peace" This part of your post either means your delusional or a liar and I do not think you feel you are telling lies rather I feel you are misguided........ The Middle Ages saw the Roman Church destroy much of the world in the name of "God" and this has been repeated over and over during most every war... Even in sports when I played we had a prayer to some God who would see us through to victory, in Vietnam a Sgt. would have a Chaplin come before each mission so we would be protected as we went about slaughtering anyone with yellow skin... Screw religion being peaceful, they are until you happen not to be a member of the Church with the bigger guns... Screw all religion, religion is great until you add one thing, people. You toss humans in the mix and religion goes to hell in a hand basket as just another excuse to kill someone

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RockyPneumonia
Nov 6, 09 9:45 AM CST

jamerican, there is at least as much evidence supporting the existence of Mohammed as there is supporting the existence of Jesus...but you knew that, of course; you just -- once again -- felt the need to validate your own existence in the only way you know how -- by being offensive. It's a shame that you feel that's the only way to get people to look at you.

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gabo
Nov 6, 09 9:50 AM CST

Nothing better than the old "My God is better than your God" argument. So easy to win.

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keybored
Nov 6, 09 9:57 AM CST

@jamerican: Your comment "You have to be really stupid to follow islam" is really insulting. And to say that "islam is a false religion of violence if you read the koran" is equally as disturbing. Have you read the bible? If you read it closely enough, it too advocates violence and yet I do not think that Christianity is a "false religion of violence". It's ignorant generalizations like this that create problems in this world.

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Snarfeh
Nov 6, 09 11:03 AM CST

http://www.400monkeys.com/God/

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BoZo
Nov 6, 09 12:02 PM CST

dontlikeyou- Islam is a religion of peace just like Catholicism and it's Inquisition is a religion of peace.

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prowlerzee
Nov 7, 09 8:57 AM CST

Exactly, BoZo. Which is exactly why we should call bullshit on that "Islam is a religion of peace" crap. Only, sadly, Islam is *today* where some of the other religions were in the dark ages. All religions suck, and they all are causing war to this day, but on top of all that Islam is still draping, stoning and beheading women. And think that suicide murderers are martyrs and get special children (72 virgins and 28 pubescent boys) to rape for eternity in "paradise." It cracks me up that "progressives" who damn religion in general rush in to defend Islam in particular, when this Stone Age blight upon our earth is the worst of the entire bunch. I mean, if Mormons started beheading some of their wives, and Scientologists started suicide-bombing Hollywood would everyone rush to their defense? Hardly. The rightwing Christians and Catholics are actively turning out to deny gays in California and Maine from their equal civil right to marry, and should be called on that. Islam SUCKS and needs to be dragged into this 21st century along with the rest of them. Their medieval attitudes are not "isolated" incidences. The Islamic pig who MOWED his daughter down for joining the 21st century is no aberration. They have a NAME for it: "honor" killing, and it's being done all over the world in the name of this "religion of peace." Bullshit is bullshit. To stop the barbaric practices we have to call the practice for what it is. Barbaric.

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Citrixguy
Nov 6, 09 9:05 AM CST

Gee...what a surprise Reply

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citygirl
Nov 6, 09 9:12 AM CST

Oh, it's because he was a "shrink who needed a shrink" or was lonely and depressed or harrazed for being a Muslim (his relative is already pushing this reason). Let's see... traumatized by loosing his parents, couldn't get any dates. Anything, but the non-politically correct truth. Next, he'll become a hero to the self-destructive ultra-liberals and will get a movie and the book deal. Reply

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restore4u
Nov 6, 09 11:34 AM CST

He will be put to death after they spend millions to rehabilitate him. After a long drawn out trial, he will become an Islam sensation/poster child for how to take out our U.S. troops from the inside.

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BlueAyez
Nov 6, 09 9:19 AM CST

Sad situation all around. At a base where I lived in the mid-70's, an airman stole a fuel truck and ran over about 30 cars all over base. They finally stopped him just short of the base gas station. Turns out he had a brain tumor. Military members aren't allowed to carry weapons unless they're on the range. Reply

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citygirl
Nov 6, 09 9:27 AM CST

Did this brain tumor guy also yelled 'Allahu Akbar'?

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Snarfeh
Nov 6, 09 11:04 AM CST

No, he yelled "In Jesus' Name!!"

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citygirl
Nov 6, 09 1:39 PM CST

There you go

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Doctor_Zaius
Nov 6, 09 9:21 AM CST

This guy is a douchebag. Is he a douchebag because of his religion or would he be one regardless, who knows. All I know is they will be propping his paralyzed ass up for a firing squad just as soon as the military court gets done with him. Reply

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citygirl
Nov 6, 09 9:29 AM CST

Sadly, may not be the case...

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keybored
Nov 6, 09 9:28 AM CST

"Witnesses: Major Yelled 'Allahu Akbar' Before Firing" -- is anybody else reporting this besides Murdoch smear machines? Reply

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citygirl
Nov 6, 09 9:32 AM CST

No, everybody else is reporting that he was delusional and thought that he was saving lives. I bet you think so too.

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keybored
Nov 6, 09 9:54 AM CST

@citygirl: Who exactly is reported that? I've heard much discussion about him having to deal with PTS patients, frustrations he had over other things, but I am curious to know who has come out and said he is "delusional and that he thought he was saving lives"? Has he given a statement? Who got the scoop on his motive??? PS: I'll bet you that you DON'T know what I think ;) PPS: Thank you for clarifying that only Murdoch's paper and network are the only ones reporting this.

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citygirl
Nov 6, 09 10:34 AM CST

Keybored, I don't read Murdoch publications. I was responding to an article posted by newser. I did see on NBC an ex-FBI agent suggesting that he was saving the solders. I'm working and can't scan the media for you to make to confirm that only Murdoch is reporting this, sorry. But it does sound very plausable to me.

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Snarfeh
Nov 6, 09 11:06 AM CST

@city - It is also reported he told civilians to get out of the way. Not exactly a terrorist method, wouldn't you say? Oh, I guess you wouldn't since you've already judged the situation based on sketchy reports instead of waiting for all the facts to finally come out.

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Rob
Nov 6, 09 12:37 PM CST

Whether or not he told civilians to get out of the way, he is military and killed military personnel. It's the firing squad for him. And it should be.

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citygirl
Nov 6, 09 1:33 PM CST

Using this logic, if terrorists are blowing up military posts and police recruiting stations, they are not terrorists?

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citygirl
Nov 6, 09 4:09 PM CST

Oh, is CNN a Murdoch outlet too? It reports: The base's commander, Lt. Gen. Bob Cone, said witnesses have reported that the gunman yelled "Allahu akbar" -- Arabic for "God is great" -- during the rampage. Cone said investigators had not confirmed that.

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Snarfeh
Nov 7, 09 8:16 PM CST

@robn - I never said he was or was not a terrorist. I was responding to the "he's a muslim and he yelled allahu akbar, therefore, he's a terrorist" ASSumption. Since a significant portion of terrorist attacks are indeed against civilians, the fact that he tried *not* to harm civilians speaks volumes, imo. I cannot imagine, what we have always defined as a terrorist, giving a damn about civilians. He may yet turn out to be linked to some terrorist or jihad group of some sort who had a moral thing about not harming civilians, but my point is "allahu akbar" and that he's muslim are *not* enough to judge him as one. For me, anyway.

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Snarfeh
Nov 7, 09 8:19 PM CST

@rob again - Sorry, I really need new glasses. Stuff I read is blurring together. I think I misread your comment or read the wrong one and associated it with your name. I actually increased page fonts recently and the articles are huge now but the damn comments did not increase. Anyone know if there is a fix for that with Mozilla?

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Jassy
Nov 6, 09 9:47 AM CST

I say, not surprisingly, the military missed some very obvious clues to this man's mental condition. How ironic that he was a mental health worker. Reply

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jamerican
Nov 6, 09 9:49 AM CST

If mohammad existed and it is debatable the biggest scam in Islam, especially Shi’a Islam is perhaps the notion of “Taqqiyeh”, an immoral tactic to lie for a good cause and later retract your words. (The belief that the end justifies the means) Islam is all about schemes, war and violence. Prophet Mohammed was an extremely violent man, a man of war. Historically, Jesus set the example for love, as did Moses. The opposite is true of Prophet Muhammad. That is why we see so many suicide bombers in our era. They simply are following what the prophet of Islam had planned for them. Islam rewards those who become martyrs with 72 virgins. So sex is what the Arab Muslim murderers die for. It is all about sex. Reply

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Shannonals
Nov 6, 09 7:17 PM CST

That is the most ignorant posting you ever submitted jamerican. What you just posted above could be said the same of christianity.

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prowlerzee
Nov 7, 09 9:06 AM CST

You left out the 28 pubescent boys to rape for eternity. It's 72 virgins and 28 pubescent boys. And lest all the muddled thinkers here think I'm singling our Islam, most of the "paradises" are sick male fantasies no woman would ever want to be part of. Mormon males get their own planet, with harems who pump out ghost babies to populate it.

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OG_Travis
Nov 6, 09 9:50 AM CST

Islam and Christianity are hardly different. They are both means to the same end- NOTHING. Because they are both false religions and are BOTH quite violent at times. It's about time people stop believing in fairy tales so society can PROGRESS. Reply

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Jasonhodge
Nov 6, 09 9:56 AM CST

Why are there always comparisons between Christianity and Islam? With a true radical fundamental Christian (true adherence to scripture) you get someone like Jesus or Mother Theresa. If a Muslim truly adheres to their scripture then you get jihad terrorists killing Christians and Jews. Reply

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Snarfeh
Nov 6, 09 11:09 AM CST

We *wish* we got someone like Jesus out of fundie christians, but instead we get Falwell, Robertson, et al. Obviously, it is not the religion in either case as much as it is that nuts and freaks use religion as an excuse to be nuts and freaks.

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prowlerzee
Nov 7, 09 9:16 AM CST

We also get the terrorists who bomb abortion clinics and shoot abortion providers dead. No one ever calls them terrorists, but they are. That does not mean we should stop calling out Islamic barbarians...we just need to call out more of the barbarians. There was an Islamic woman author on tv doing just that, especially this week. So much horrifying news this week. But have no doubt, she was calling out her own, and was also a LONE voice on the war on women. The Islamic dad ran his daughter over with a truck because he felt he owned her, and her actions impinged on his "honor." But the gang who beat and raped the girl in Richmond did so for male "honor" as well. Now we even have male fuckwits in Congress who feel entitled to tell women what to do with their bodies, and when they can and can't get a legal medical procedure. That control of women's bodies belongs to our own homegrown moral police and religions and needs to be called out, too. They all have to go.

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RockyPneumonia
Nov 6, 09 9:59 AM CST

From the Washington Post: "In an interview, his aunt, Noel Hasan of Falls Church, said he had endured name-calling and harassment about his Muslim faith for years after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks". Maybe repeated slurs and abuse similar to those we see here on Newser, from people who claim to love America but don't understand what America's about, drove him 'round the bend. Reply

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Citrixguy
Nov 6, 09 10:04 AM CST

So, in your world, a little teasing is justification for mass murder?

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keybored
Nov 6, 09 10:09 AM CST

"Teasing" is another term for abuse and harassment and is NEVER an excuse for mass murder. It could be one of the reasons it happened, but NOT an excuse. There's a big difference. In this case, who knows what the real reason is.

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Snarfeh
Nov 6, 09 11:11 AM CST

@citrix - I read and re-read Rocky's post, but I don't see where he said it was an excuse. However, based on how he wrote it, I deduced he was saying it is definitely an explanation. Explanations and excuses are not the same; check a dictionary. There's several dictionaries online but if you need me to hold your hand, I guess you'll never learn English.

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stavi82
Nov 6, 09 11:21 AM CST

Just like how the little kids in school getting bullied eventually lash out against everyone around them.

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prowlerzee
Nov 7, 09 9:27 AM CST

stavi, well, yes, they do. The shooters at Columbine felt teased and shunned by the religious kids at their school, and being taunted and made an outcast has spurred other school shootings, too. None of that is an excuse to murder and mayhem, but it is a factor that has caused disturbed people to snap.

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Jasonhodge
Nov 6, 09 9:59 AM CST

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BoZo
Nov 6, 09 12:05 PM CST

Maybe because they both evolved from the same middle eastern sects. Maybe because when the Christians were in charge they had the Inquisition, and the time period was called the dark ages. Just going out on a limb here.

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prowlerzee
Nov 7, 09 9:30 AM CST

Keep going out on the same limb, BoZo. Can we agree the Islamic barbarians need to be dragged into the 21st century because we don't want another dark ages? Enough with the mowing daughters down because they're too "westernized" and beheading wives because of one's (gag) "honor."

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Snarfeh
Nov 7, 09 8:24 PM CST

@Jason - The last thing I would expect to come from a true radical, fundamental Christian is Jesus. True adherence to scripture means you should not eat pork, cheeseburgers or anything from a shell. Jesus responded to those laws by saying it is not that which we take in that is unclean, but that which we put out. The ironic thing is, Jesus wasn't a Christian.

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ezrider
Nov 6, 09 10:56 AM CST

this guy was just plain nuts. on one side of the country a prison guard being rescued by prison inmates and this nut turning on fellow soldiers it don't make sense Reply

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Snarfeh
Nov 6, 09 11:01 AM CST

Did anyone else notice it was reported that he told civilians to get out of the way? Since when do terrorists give a damn about civilians? If that is true, then it sounds more like a soldier going nutso about being deployed than a Islamic terrorist act. Yellng "allahu akbar" in and of itself does not indicate terrorism. Muslims say it several times in the course of a day, I would expect. I'm going to wait for more information on this one before passing judgment. Reply

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stavi82
Nov 6, 09 11:22 AM CST

Wow, excellent observation. I can't believe I missed that. It definitely doesn't seem like a radical attack against Americans. Now it seems more of a distressed shrink who didn't take his own advice.

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Count-Spatula
Nov 6, 09 11:05 AM CST

Uh any thinking person knows devout IS extremsit. Sounds like the guy could really analyse problems and make decisions: Problem: I don't want to go to war, where I could be hurt. Solution: Shoot up militarybase/workplace, killing 13 people wounding 40, and either die or go to jail. Yep that's a real top quality mind he has there. Reply

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stavi82
Nov 6, 09 11:09 AM CST

He spent 10+ years training/being a shrink. I'd imagine half his patients were returning soldiers with slight to severe PTSD. Hearing their horror stories probably terrified him. When it was his turn to deploy, the stories, paird with the idea of killing his own Muslim brothers, probably drove him mad. Reply

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BoZo
Nov 6, 09 12:08 PM CST

This story sickens me.

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d3wd
Nov 6, 09 4:58 PM CST

What are the odds that this guy is just a patsy? Reply

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prowlerzee
Nov 7, 09 9:37 AM CST

Ahhhh, the conspiracy stories are just starting, d3wd! I've seen one write-up of "oddities" but I haven't read them yet. The were others arrested and released on suspicion of being involved with the shootings. One more is being questioned.

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cunomor
Nov 9, 09 8:26 PM CST

You might want to read Catherwood's "Christians, Muslims, and Islamic Rage". Then read up on Sayyid Qtub and his book "Sign Posts Along the Road". Ignorant comparisons between Islam and Christianity are completely useless and a distraction. Also, it is incredibly ironic that liberals defend Islam by making such comparisons, but devout Muslims abhor most things that liberals stand for. In fact, any western liberal would last 6 hours in nearly any Muslim country. Think about that.... Reply

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