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Do FL and MI Count?

"Clearly I believe their votes should count, and I believe there has to be a way to make them count." -Hillary Clinton

What can be done about states like Florida and Michigan, whose votes in January were discounted because they defied party rules and held early primaries? As the two Democratic candidates face-off for the nomination, those states are proving more valuable than originally expected.

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  • April 2008

    • Hillary Renews Call for State Re-Votes

      Associated Press  |  Apr 5, 08 8:24 PM CDT

      Hillary Renews Call for State Re-Votes

      (Newser) - Stumping in Oregon today, Hillary Clinton kept up her fight to recognize Florida and Michigan primary results, saying the votes had been “officially tallied,” the AP reports. “The question is whether those 2.3 million Democrats will be honored.” Meanwhile Barack Obama’s camp, which has offered to evenly split the disputed delegates, reminded reporters that Clinton once said the contests “didn’t count for anything.” More »

  • March 2008

    • Michigan Rep. Floats New Plan to Seat Delegates

      Associated Press  |  Mar 31, 08 3:27 PM CDT

      Michigan Rep. Floats New Plan to Seat Delegates

      (Newser) - A new plan from a Michigan congressman would apportion about half the state's Democratic delegates based on its outlaw January primary and the other half according to national popular-vote tallies, the AP reports. “The last thing we want to do as Democrats," Bart Stupak wrote to Democratic Party chief Howard Dean, "is to disenfranchise voters.” More »

    • Reid: Race Will End Before Convention

      Politico  |  Mar 26, 08 11:12 CDT

      Reid: Race Will End Before Convention

      (Newser) - The top Senate Democrat says his party's presidential nomination will be wrapped up before the Aug. 25-28 convention. “It will be done,” majority leader Harry Reid declared of the race between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama—adding mysteriously, Politico reports, that he’d spoken to party chairman Howard Dean and that “things are being done.” More »

    • Appeals Court Chucks Fla. Primary Suit

      Atlanta Journal-Constitution  |  Mar 21, 08 5:39 PM CDT

      Appeals Court Chucks Fla. Primary Suit

      (Newser) - A federal appeals court today tossed a lawsuit from a Florida Democrat who claimed the Democratic National Committee violated his rights by stripping the state of primary delegates. But the challenge might not be dead, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports: A lower court ruled the plaintiff lacked standing because he hadn't voted in a Florida primary; now that he has, he could amend the suit. More »

    • Candidates Reject Fla. Delegate Compromise

      Talahassee Democrat  |  Mar 20, 08 12:19 PM CDT

      Candidates Reject Fla. Delegate Compromise

      (Newser) - The Obama and Clinton campaigns rejected a compromise plan for seating Florida’s delegates—half according to its illicit January primary and the other half based on national vote totals or delegate counts. Sunshine State lawmakers are demanding their state get some sort of say in the tight Dem race; one suggested the candidates “get in a room together and work this thing out.” More »

    • Clinton Must Catch Perfect Wave, Aides Say

      New York Times  |  Mar 20, 08 11:25 CDT

      Clinton Must Catch Perfect Wave, Aides Say

      (Newser) - Hillary Clinton’s aides say their candidate’s chances of winning the Democratic nomination grow ever slimmer, the New York Times reports, and she will need victories in Pennsylvania and the national popular vote—as well as a confidence-shaking event in Barack Obama's camp—to succeed. She can't likely overtake Obama without re-votes in Michigan and Florida, and the Jeremiah Wright flap is cooling. More »

    • Clinton Camp Blames Obama for Blocking Mich. Re-Vote

      Detroit News  |  Mar 19, 08 1:00 PM CDT

      Clinton Camp Blames Obama for Blocking Mich. Re-Vote

      (Newser) - As a re-vote for Michigan Democrats looks less likely, Hillary Clinton put blame squarely at her rival’s feet, with one spokesman calling Barack Obama's approach “a passive-aggressive effort … to disenfranchise the voters.” Meanwhile, Obama's campaign for the first time expressed opposition to do-over legislation, the Detroit News reports, noting concern over private funding of a public election. More »

    • Florida Dems Nix Primary Do-Over

      Miami Herald  |  Mar 17, 08 7:24 PM CDT

      Florida Dems Nix Primary Do-Over

      (Newser) - Florida Democrats reacted to weeks of political wrangling today by ditching plans for a mail-in revote, the Miami Herald reports. "Thousands of people responded," Florida Democratic Party chair Karen Thurman wrote. "The consensus is clear: Florida doesn’t want to vote again. So we won’t." But she said the Sunshine State still isn't calling it quits. More »

    • Mich. Inches Closer to June Re-Vote

      Detroit Free Press  |  Mar 14, 08 4:20 PM CDT

      Mich. Inches Closer to June Re-Vote

      (Newser) - Michigan’s Democratic primary will take place—again—on June 3 if Barack Obama and the state legislature agree on a re-vote and private funds can be raised, the Detroit Free Press reports. Negotiators struck a tentative deal this afternoon on a full-fledged primary repeat, which state lawmakers must approve by the end of next week. More »

    • Mich., Fla. Closer to Approving Re-Votes

      Chicago Tribune  |  Mar 9, 08 5:50 PM CDT

      Mich., Fla. Closer to Approving Re-Votes

      (Newser) - Michigan and Florida senators appeared closer today to approving mail-in re-votes for their disqualified primaries, the Swamp blog reports. DNC chair Howard Dean said he also supported the mail-ins if state leaders can agree with Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama on how to run them. “I have to run these rules so that the losing side feels it’s been treated fairly,” he said on “This Week with George Stephanopolous.” More »

    • Deal Close for Mail-in Florida Revote

      Newsweek  |  Mar 8, 08 1:20 PM CST

      Deal Close for Mail-in Florida Revote

      (Newser) - Floridians will get a chance to vote again in the Democratic primary, this time by mail, if Florida Sen. Bill Nelson and Gov. Charlie Crist have their way. Nelson tells Newsweek that plans are all but set for a re-vote, this time paid for by soft money donations. But hurdles remain, including what Nelson’s spokesman calls a “tiny” Florida law against mail-in voting. More »

    • Bigwigs Wrangle Over Fla., Michigan

      New York Times  |  Mar 7, 08 8:16 CST

      Bigwigs Wrangle Over Fla., Michigan

      (Newser) - Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton's race to capture every pledged delegate has revived a contentious issue: what to do with the disqualified delegates from Michigan and Florida. Both campaigns, state leaders, and party elders all agree that something must be done. But the party is at an impasse over how to proceed, not least over who would foot an $18 million bill for a do-over, writes the New York Times . More »

    • Candidates Spin Tuesday: Math vs. Momentum

      Wall Street Journal  |  Mar 6, 08 1:25 PM CST

      Candidates Spin Tuesday: Math vs. Momentum

      (Newser) - Hillary Clinton's victories in Texas and Ohio changed little in the race for pledged delegates—by some estimates she netted only five—but Tuesday's primaries changed the dynamic of the Democratic contest, the Wall Street Journal reports. The candidates have divergent arguments: Barack Obama's team says the math favors him; Clinton's claims she should be the nominee if momentum lies with her. More »

    • Michigan, Florida Dems Mull Do-Over Votes

      Associated Press  |  Mar 6, 08 6:22 CST

      Michigan, Florida Dems Mull Do-Over Votes

      (Newser) - Do-over Democratic primary votes in Michigan and Florida are looking likelier with the support of key political players, the AP reports. The governors of both states—a Clinton-backing Democrat in Michigan and a Republican in Florida—have issued a joint statement calling for their states' delegates to be seated at the national convention.  Campaigns for both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama seem open to the idea. Clinton won both primaries, but neither candidate campaigned and Obama wasn't even on the Michigan ballot. More »

    • DNC's Dean urges do-over in Florida, Michigan

      Associated Press  |  Mar 6, 08

      WASHINGTON - Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean urged Florida and Michigan party officials to come up with plans to repeat their presidential nominating contests so that their delegates can be counted.

    • Facing the Facts on Florida and Michigan

      New York  |  Mar 6, 08

      With a competitive primary race heating up between Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, could the ultimate winner be chosen on the convention floor by Michigan and Florida delegates?

    • Mich., Fla. May Yet Be Hillary Key

      Salon  |  Mar 5, 08 1:43 PM CST

      Mich., Fla. May Yet Be Hillary Key

      (Newser) - Despite big wins yesterday, Hillary Clinton still needs a secret weapon to make up her delegate deficit and, Walter Shapiro writes in Salon , her strategy might have been presaged in Ohio by Gov. Ted Strickland urging, “Let’s go to Michigan and Florida." Do-over votes in those states, whose primaries weren't recognized by the Democratic Party for violating scheduling rules, could be her next push. More »

    • Long Fight Threatens Dems

      Newsweek  |  Mar 5, 08 10:28 CST

      Long Fight Threatens Dems

      (Newser) - Hillary Clinton's victories in Texas and Ohio herald a long, ugly scrap for the Democratic nomination—and the big loser may be the party, reports Newsweek . It remains unknown how many delegates the New York senator won last night, but Clinton can now brush aside calls for her to end her candidacy as the race moves to its next big battleground: Pennsylvania, six weeks away on April 22. More »

  • February 2008

    • Howard Dean, Shadow of His Former Self

      New Republic  |  Feb 18, 08 9:20 PM CST

      Howard Dean, Shadow of His Former Self

      (Newser) - The Howard Dean who once shocked Washington is now a model of docility, “unwilling or afraid to confront the establishment that was once so afraid of him," the New Republic ’s Eve Fairbanks argues. The Democratic National Committee chair is also the wrong man for a bitter primary season, refusing to intervene when the party needs a strong hand. More »

    • Michigan, Florida Votes Could be Crucial for Democrats

      CNN  |  Feb 14, 08

      With a competitive primary race heating up between Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, could the ultimate winner be chosen on the convention floor by Michigan and Florida delegates?

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Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean pledges allegiance to the flag at the start of the Democratic National Committee Fall Meeting in Vienna, Va., Friday, Nov. 30, 2007. (AP Photo/Charles...   (Associated Press)
Democratic presidential hopeful, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., speaks during an election night rally Tuesday, March 4, 2008, in San Antonio, Texas. Obama won the Vermont primary for his 12th straight victory...   (Associated Press)
Democratic presidential hopeful, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., left and Democratic presidential hopeful, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., arrive on stage for a debate at Cleveland State University in...   (Associated Press)
Former Democratic presidential hopeful and Democratic National Committee Chairman, Howard Dean, mimics his 2004 Iowa Caucus address at the New Hampshire Democratic Party's 49th annual 100 Club dinner...   (Associated Press)
Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y. acknowledges supporters during a primary night rally Tuesday, March 4, 2008, in Columbus, Ohio. (AP Photo/Mark Duncan)   (Associated Press)
Democratic presidential hopeful, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., and his wife Michelle arrive on stage for an election night rally Tuesday, March 4, 2008, in San Antonio, Texas. Obama won the Vermont primary...   (Associated Press)
Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y. acknowledges supporters during a primary night rally Tuesday March 4, 2008, in Columbus, Ohio. Clinton is the projected winner of the...   (Associated Press)
Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., makes remarks during a election rally Tuesday, March 4, 2008, in San Antonio, Texas. Obama won the Vermont primary for his 12th straight victory...   (Associated Press)
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