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Mackenzie Phillips Scores

Sep 25, 09 | 7:17 AM   byMichael Wolff
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Okay, let’s not shy away from it: Mackenzie Phillips, and whether she did or did not sleep with her father, is the big news.

As it happens, whenever we follow an incest story at Newser it becomes the biggest story. The Phillips story is even bigger because it’s not just an incest story but also a disputed incest story. And because there are famous (well, sort of famous) people involved. Incest stories involving complete unknowns are big. With a famous parent-child ménage, you’re off the charts.

So what’s the attraction here?

It seems unlikely that incest is a hidden American passion, although I could be wrong about that. On the other hand there is, I think it's fair to assume, a voyeuristic interest in lots of forms of kinkiness in this country. (Actually, there is a great interest in voyeurism.)

And there is an interest in drug addiction, or stories about drug addicts, which both Mackenzie and her father surely were. Mackenzie’s stepmother, Michelle Phillips, who disputes Mackenzie’s account of a 10-year affair with her father and the desecration of his pop memory, points out that Mackenzie has had a needle stuck in her arm for the past 35 years. While that might make Mackenzie’s story a little suspect, the history of drug-related memoirs, even with the dubious provenances, indicates that the did-it/didn’t-it-happen factor doesn’t make them less interesting. People eat this Potemkin-village stuff up.


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There is, too, the issue of, well, right and wrong, which broadly involves many sociological and gender-related factors and which people really get their teeth into. It is rape? Or is it, as Mackenzie suggests, “Stockholm Syndrome,” which is among today’s most favorite syndromes, or is it, actually, consensual sex? And is consensual sex, when it involves drug addicts and rock and roll stars, somethin less than consensual?

There are other issues which are rock-and-roll related. For instance: Can your daughter also be your groupie? And then what about Mick Jagger, who Mackenzie told Oprah she had sex with as a teen? Her father left the room, Mick locked the door and said, I’ve been waiting for this since you were 10. Hmmmm. One might hope that somewhere, for the sake of history, Mick has made a record of everyone he has ever slept with.

I’m sure there is a point here about reality shows and about gross things happening to real (and gross) people. That probably has class implications: These gross things, which we find so compelling, happen to low class people, which so many rock and rollers started out as.

Anyway, there’s just something about incest, which, according to Newser’s stats, we can’t get enough of.

More of Newser founder Michael Wolff's articles and commentary can be found at VanityFair.com, where he writes a regular column. He can be emailed at michael@newser.com. You can also follow him on Twitter: www.twitter.com/NewserColumns.
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QueenAlli
Sep 25, 09 11:02 AM CDT
I don't get this "she had a needle in her arm for 35 years" brush off. It started with her father and his twisted reality, his twisted mind and his twisted and non-existent parenting. Reply
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MichaelWolff
Sep 25, 09 3:16 PM CDT
Absolutely true. But that doesn't make her a more reliable narrator.
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drlarrymitchell
Sep 25, 09 2:42 PM CDT
Mackenzie Phillips has hit the Multi-fecta of fucked-up with this one. Plus, abortion, and an illicit adult affair resulting in confuzzled paternity of an aborted child. Reply
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fancygapva
Sep 25, 09 9:50 PM CDT
Your point? Seems a little circular. There's a lot more incest around than people are usually aware of. I happen to be an only child, but many of my childhood girlfriends in the 50's who had brothers were talking about being molested by the time they were 9 or 10. I didn't really understand what they were talking about but it made my skin crawl. As an adult I've known one woman who as a child had a long term sexual relationship with her brother and as a middle aged woman has fractured boundaries, and when she came out her family quickly rejected her and blamed the victim. Who knows if McKenzie is telling the truth or how accurately--but incest is not a rare curiosity as the article implies. It's common. Probably moreso now than in the 50's. Reply
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Bambi
Sep 26, 09 9:57 AM CDT
Michael, well, the fascination might be because as a 'crime' incest, especially involving a minor (for then it is also 'rape'), seems to have everything dramatic going for it. There are pariahs biological, emotional, moral and legal. 1. Selective success demands genetic variation, with incest famously accounting for at least buck-teeth if not dementia and other feeblenesses, 2. solid and clearly defined homestead roles are widely regarded as requisite for emotional well-being, i.e., groundedness, 3. Perhaps as a consequence of both the above, nearly every religion holds incest as taboo, with gruesome penalties in most cases, and 4. Probably following from all the above, legal systems around the world weighs in as well. I'm not sure there are many practices which touch all those bases from fire and brimstone to genetics, to politics of the passions, crime & punishment, the sanctity of family identity... I'm not too proud to say that like everyone else, I find the topic fascinating and always thought provoking. Reply
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lizouttavegas
Sep 26, 09 4:46 PM CDT
God, Bambi, you are eloquent!!!! & I agree..I find it fascinating, sad, salacious, & scary all in the same moment! I remember first hearing about a co=worker who ran away from this kind of father, & I remember being shocked to the core, since my father was SO careful around me & my sister, at home, in the 50's. I was 27 & had never before actually met anyone who knew anyone...etc. At the end of it all, I find I believe Mc Kenzie Phillips, & I pray for her soul. Reply
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MichaelWolff
Sep 27, 09 8:23 AM CDT
I'm not sure that's what she's looking for.
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fiestygirl
Sep 27, 09 3:12 PM CDT
I'm not saying it didn't happen but it is too bad the man is dead and unable to defend himself. Reply
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Reader3181
Sep 27, 09 3:22 PM CDT
And what about French Singer, Serge Gainsburg supposedly having sex with his daughter Charlotte? And Klaus Kinsky, the German actor, claiming to have slept with his daughter Natasha? This story must also be about the "free love" moment in history. Reply
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muelle71
Sep 27, 09 11:05 PM CDT
Low-class people?! Ignorance at it's best, Michael Wolff. Let me guess, you grew up in Malibu? Reply
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inmiami
Sep 28, 09 10:50 AM CDT
Sometimes people don't want to hear the truth about people they loved, and reason the victim must be lying just to cope (like Micheal Jackson). I don't think anyone would lie about incest to sell books. Clearly MacKenzie had enough material without it. A father that would shoot up his own teenage daughter with heroin, clearly does not have any boundaries. And the suggestion that molestation/incest only happen in lower class families is ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS. Read a book, or maybe just google "Factory Girl" p.s. if you wake up from a blackout and someone is having sex with you, that is clearly defined as rape, no matter if you are a minor or the perp is your dad. Reply
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News_Anna
Sep 28, 09 4:12 PM CDT
Smart beautiful precocious children are often wonderments to adults around them...some of whose parents can't believe "this kid' is related to them... or that they are really still kids - as precocious smart kids outshine many adults in many way... they are truly in a class by themselves. This may create in some pathological parental minds, a psychological separation that triggers their pathology which may otherwise have remained dormant. Other incesters just do it because of the usual rapist control and violence issues. Well, lo and behold, all THAT also works in reverse, when children of amazing parents want to control and manage who their parent loves best. So, rape, Ms. Phillips may be a 2 way street in your case. We'll never know that, but in my house, your appearance is that of a street level prostitute whose drug use could have run a surgical practice for 35 years. Reply
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