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Nov 13, 09 | 6:55 AM

Does Warren Buffett Know What He’s Talking About?

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Nobody I know who is smart and rich (albeit much less rich than they used to be) thinks the economy is patched up and ready to roll—except, apparently, Warren Buffet (who I don’t actually know), who announced yesterday that “the financial panic is behind us.”

But then he is also a man who believes the future is railroads.

The view of my personal focus group of the smart and the rich is a basic one: Their own businesses continue to really suck; some 17% of the country is unemployed or under-employed in an economy built on consumer spending; every bank in the country is still hiding underwater assets which won’t rise until consumer spending does, and consumers can’t spend if they’re unemployed.

And then the Dow: It’s going strong precisely because so many companies have fired so many people that their results are looking surprisingly better than expected, so, likely, they keep firing people.

Of course my personal focus group of the smart and rich didn’t much see the collapse coming either, so no reason to necessarily think they’ll be the first to glimpse the dawn.

The positive view is that as the Dow restores underlying asset value to American corporations, their ability to borrow and expand increases, which puts people back to work, which means they can once again become patriotic consumers and spend gallantly on everything, including real estate.

So, after all that has gone down, so many bubbles burst and illusions shattered, we are still in an economic cycle not so much motivated by production as by perception. If enough people think this, it propels that, which somehow creates a sense of confidence we can take to the bank.

In other words, is Buffett—as American as apple pie, as dear and good as mom herself, as oracular as God—also quite cynical?

After all, he must know that if perception is value, when he speaks he can spin dross into gold. So has he been sitting out there in Omaha thinking there is a point—which he would have measured with some study and calculation—when he can exert a maximum amount of leverage on the economy by saying everything is getting good?

He makes a huge investment in the railroad business, which necessarily depends upon a thriving economy to supply it with goods to haul, so he has to talk it up.

If he is talking it up, that means that every financial writer and reporter in America has to think twice before disagreeing with Warren Buffett, which means that at some point—some point soon—even my personal focus group of the main street smart and rich starts being bullish again.

So this is good? Right? I mean if that’s what it takes, why not?

Will being manipulated and spun and force-fed a new story really bother anyone if the economy grows and people go back to work? Not so much.

More of Newser founder Michael Wolff's articles and commentary can be found at VanityFair.com, where he writes a regular column. He can be emailed at michael@newser.com. You can also follow him on Twitter: www.twitter.com/NewserColumns.
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Doffy
Nov 13, 09 2:34 PM CST
The United States ended the gold standard decades ago. Our economy is based on Faith. If faith in Warren Buffet sends Wall Street soaring, allowing business to borrow and invest, putting more people to work.... I say "Go, Mr. Buffet." Reply
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Deebles
Nov 16, 09 9:34 PM CST
You know what they say about great fortunes. Is Warren Buffet smarter than I? Doubt it-- just has a money agenda. Capitalism--anyone can get rich if they are 'clever' and greedy. He bought all of Marmon, which makes everything including all the shipping containers. Why would it be odd to go for the things that will move those containers? This is capitalism. So, when Buffet buys up Obama's treasurer's company--well, I want a piece. Privately held. But, through much research I found the one little medical tech company that was part--but traded. What a guy.
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dax
Nov 13, 09 9:06 PM CST
Either it's TGIF, or Newser readers generally don't care about what Warren Buffet thinks (only 2 posts at this time).---- But speaking directly to the topic, Mr. Buffet having one of the biggest individual stakes in our economy, would hold keen interest for an upward tick in consumer confidence. And if priming the pump is what's called for........ Reply
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Fromthemiddle
Nov 14, 09 2:02 PM CST
"Will being manipulated and spun and force-fed a new story really bother anyone if the economy grows and people go back to work? Not so much." Not only not bothersome, but maybe the best stimulus that can happen. Need proof? Last year at the height of the "financialacolypse" all major media outlets were screaming not to buy Christmas gifts because all the retailers were going to have to give everything away in Jan to get rid of their stock. Up until Dec 25th year over year comps were down nearly 20%, but sales EXPLODED in Jan and Feb. Meanwhile, retailers, not being stupid, had cut their orders so the overstocks did not exist in the first place and those ridiculous prices never materialized and many ran out of key product inventories. This is the power of the media. Reply
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Rocket448
Nov 14, 09 3:13 PM CST
Why the quizzical attitude toward railroads? I believe Mr. Buffet is right to own the rails - as an alternative to the costs of long-haul trucking AND the possibility of cross-country passenger service, railroads make as much sense now as they did 70 years ago. We were fools to dismantle and all but abandon rail service. I hope Mr. Buffet is banking on us getting smarter about one of America's signature success stories. Reply
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phil
Nov 15, 09 5:14 PM CST
He doesn't need to talk up anything. He thinks in terms of the next twenty years. he's not looking to dump his stock off tomorrow. If you knew anything about Buffet or ever made an effort to research anything you'd know this. Reply
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SiriusOne
Nov 17, 09 4:46 PM CST
I can only agree with this comment. Buffet thinks in ten, twenty and fifty year cycles, economic cycles not news cycles
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JoeQ
Nov 15, 09 10:31 PM CST
Warren Buffett knows that no matter what shape the economy is in, we still need electricity to light our homes, cardboard shacks, hovels, whatever. We also will want junk from China to fill our Walmarts and Dollar Generals. The electricity comes for the forseeable future from trains full of coal, despite all the hopes of the green revolution. The junk from China comes from big freighters parked along the coasts, then shipped by train, not trucks which is far more expensive per mile. When Peak Oil hits, the highest tech transportation will be hit hardest, like air freight. In short, Warren Buffett is betting on Peak Oil long term, which is really a very safe bet. Reply
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KoalaJohnson
Nov 16, 09 8:58 AM CST
I'm no financial expert, but this whole increasingly-larger-bursting-bubbles system we've got going here just doesn't seem like it can possibly go on forever. It really seems more like it can definitely last long enough to outlive my generation, and quite possibly my children's and grandchildren's, but eventually somebody's gonna pay the price for a world economy built on illusion. Will it bother anyone alive right now if a massive lie keeps us all employed and consuming? Not so much, you're right. Reply
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bewilderbeast
Nov 17, 09 5:41 AM CST
Personally I believe we cut the "oracles" "economists" "stocktraders" and other wizards too much slack. Warren Buffet makes so much money because he is part of the cabal that makes the rules. These guys will lie or steal or do whatever it takes. And the way they have written the rules it's not CALLED lying or stealing. It's called advising and benefitting. I mean they make laws against insider trading and then they INSIDER TRADE (calling it something different). Reply
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