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Torture 'Apologists' Are Wrong: It's Never Justified

Let's not embrace the values of Osama bin Laden: op-ed essay

By John Johnson,  Newser Staff

Posted May 6, 2011 11:55 AM CDT

(Newser) – The "apologists" crowing that we never would have caught Osama bin Laden without waterboarding and other forms of torture are sadly off base, write Charles and Gregory Fried in the Washington Post. For starters, we can't know if they're right. But even if they are, the larger point remains: Torture is always wrong and is an affront to American values. "Once you are willing to cross the line of absolutely wrong, you must answer impossible questions," they write. For instance, is it OK to torture a terrorist's child to get information?

The moment such "moral boundaries" are crossed, there's no going back. And ultimately, "the main damage torture inflicts is on the torturer." The young protesters in the Arab world now revolting in the name of democracy aspire to "the same values that we proclaim guide us," they write. "It defiles their sacrifice, as well as that of our own troops, if we who have long championed democracy embrace the brutal values of our enemies, even in the name of self-defense. We must deny bin Laden this posthumous victory." (Click for a staunch opposition to this argument.)

Demonstrators hold a rally against torture on the National Mall in Washington in this 2008 file photo.
Demonstrators hold a rally against torture on the National Mall in Washington in this 2008 file photo.   (Getty Images)
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mightymike56
May 7, 2011 8:38 AM CDT
torture is wrong, just plain wrong..... we should do what they do to us, cut off their heads, I'm sure their friends next to them will be telling us anything we want to know.
toeser
May 7, 2011 6:21 AM CDT
" For instance, is it OK to torture a terrorist's child to get information?" Or how about: Is it OK to torture a spouse, a neighbor, or even a stranger? Is it OK to bomb the terrorist's home country to get information - or maybe even drop vats of acid on the capital city? See, this could really get out of hand. Don't put Jack Bauer in charge.
flapstick
May 7, 2011 12:20 AM CDT
aha. Screw that.. anyone who thinks torture doesn't get anywhere hasn't had a family member in the military. Someone who undergoes intense action and ever operation includes intelligence provided by prisoners to make sure they come back for chirstmas and thanksgiving... or better yet, make sure their seats at chirstmas will not remain forever empty. So please, don't ever try to tell me that they shouldn't ever stoop to their level of action..We don't. Try keeping your cool when a bullet comes flying over your head to kill you... better yet, even though i don't know, try keeping your cool when that bullet comes killing your best friend beside you.

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