Who Won? Call It a Draw
Biden, Ryan both win praise
By Rob Quinn, Newser Staff
Posted Oct 12, 2012 1:39 AM CDT
Updated Oct 12, 2012 7:49 AM CDT
Vice President Joe Biden, left, and Republican vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan face off during the vice presidential debate at Centre College.   (AP Photo/David Goldman)

(Newser) – Pundits—and the public, according to a CNN poll—seem split on who won the vice-presidential debate, but most agree that the feisty meeting had more to offer viewers and voters than the first Obama-Romney debate.

  • Viewers "were treated to a free-wheeling and substantial debate over the size of government, the limits of US military power, and other issues defining the choice between Obama and Mitt Romney," writes Ron Fournier at the Atlantic. "Voters will be better served if Romney and Obama debate next week at their runningmates' level."
  • "The upshot was a vice presidential debate that was occasionally entertaining for partisans on both sides, but was mostly unenlightening," writes William Kristol at the Weekly Standard. "Ultimately, I suspect, it will prove inconsequential. It's hard to believe it will change any votes, or give either side momentum."

  • Both men had strong showings that gave their parties what they wanted, writes Mark McKinnon at the Daily Beast. "Biden was a passionate defender of his boss and wasn’t shy about taking the offensive to point out where and when he thought Ryan and Romney are wrong," while Ryan "was calm and competent. And looked like he could sit in the big chair if necessary," he writes.
  • Biden was both the winner and the loser of the debate because he was so aggressive that he made Ryan seem like a bystander, decides Chris Cillizza at the Washington Post. At times, Biden was "measured, passionate, and heartfelt," but he went overboard trying to counter Obama's listless performance last week and "bordered on bullying Ryan," he writes.
  • Roger Simon at Politico, who declares Biden the winner, was more impressed. Biden "smirked, sneered, and openly laughed at many of Ryan’s responses," he writes. "It could have looked rude, but Biden made it look tough." As the debate went on and Biden started inflicting damage, "Ryan began looking younger and younger. And not in a good way."
One clear winner: Moderator Martha Raddatz.

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Oct 13, 2012 7:39 PM CDT
Joe punked Lyin Ryan !
Oct 12, 2012 9:50 PM CDT
all the RepubicTards did today was complain about everything,,,they should complain that their so called guru came up lame and Biden wasnt gonna sit there and ignore all those lies coming from the cut under Ryans nose....
Oct 12, 2012 6:30 PM CDT
All jokes aside...I live in south Florida...the Democratic stronghold of Dade, Broward, and Palm Beach Counties...It feels like it did in 1984 here...I mean in 2008, every where you looked there was Obama/Biden...2012 on the other hand nothing (i have seen 2 bumberstickers)...I have not seen Democrats this quiet since 1984 when a huge number of them became what is now called "Reagan Democrats."