For more than four years, an FBI informant said she listened to and taped former Subway pitchman Jared Fogle as he talked about his desire for children, as well as his sexual exploits with them. Now Rochelle Herman-Walrond's recordings are about to be heard by the world when they air on Dr. Phil this Thursday and Friday—and it's not easy listening. The Dr. Phil site shares select quotes it says are contained in the tapes. Fogle allegedly tells Herman-Walrond, "I would fly us clear across the world if we need to. To Thailand or wherever we want to go. If we're gonna try to get some young kids with us, it would be a lot easier." He also allegedly inquires about putting a camera in her own children's bedrooms, asking, "Are there any of your kids' friends that you think are pretty hot? What if we put a camera in your kids' room, would they be OK with that?"
The most disturbing portion of the recordings, though, comes when Herman-Walrond asks Fogle about his sexual experiences with kids. He's heard telling her both young girls and boys turn him on. "I had a little boy ---------. It was amazing," he says in a recording that's featured in a teaser for the show, followed by, "It just felt so good. I mean, it felt—it felt so good." Herman-Walrond says she was traumatized herself by her interactions with Fogle, telling Dr. Phil that "I felt like I was so dirty. My soul was dirty," the New York Daily News reports. She adds, per the Dr. Phil site: "I'm removing myself from who I am. ... I had to be two separate people ... to [do] this investigation." In the interview, Herman-Walrond also reveals to Dr. Phil how she gained Fogle's trust and how her phone conversations with him actually made her sick. (Though he has yet to be sentenced, Fogle has sent big checks to 10 of his victims.)