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Candidates Score in Pastor Rick-a-thon

Even in a non-debate, pundits still find a way to label somebody a winner

By Katherine Thompson,  Newser Staff

Posted Aug 17, 2008 12:43 PM CDT

(Newser) – Pastor Rick stressed that last night's Saddleback Civil Forum on the Presidency wasn't a debate, but that won't stop the pundits from deciding who came out ahead:

  • Byron York, of the National Review, sees the night as a big win for McCain, who's had a "much bigger life."

  • Mike Madden, writing in Salon, found Obama to be "on his game" and quite comfortable talking about his faith, while McCain also acquitted himself well.
  • Mark Halperin's grades of the two candidates don't show much variation: the two men alternate A- and B+ in various categories, and both average an A-.


Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., talks during a non-debate forum moderated by Pastor Rick Warren at the Saddleback Church.
Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., talks during a non-debate forum moderated by Pastor Rick Warren at the Saddleback Church.   (AP Photo/Richard Vogel)
Barack Obama and John McCain greet parishioners of Pastor Rick Warren during a non-debate forum in Lake Forest, Calif. on Saturday Aug. 16, 2008.
Barack Obama and John McCain greet parishioners of Pastor Rick Warren during a non-debate forum in Lake Forest, Calif. on Saturday Aug. 16, 2008.   (AP Photo/Richard Vogel)
Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., sits during a commercial break with Pastor Rick Warren.
Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., sits during a commercial break with Pastor Rick Warren.   (AP Photo/Alex Brandon)
Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain R-Ariz., participates in the Compassion Forum with pastor Rick Warren.
Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain R-Ariz., participates in the Compassion Forum with pastor Rick Warren.   (AP Photo/Mary Altaffer)
Republican presidential candidate, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., left, participates with pastor Rick Warren in the Compassion Forum at the Saddleback Church, Saturday, Aug. 16, 2008.
Republican presidential candidate, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., left, participates with pastor Rick Warren in the Compassion Forum at the Saddleback Church, Saturday, Aug. 16, 2008.   (AP Photo/Mary Altaffer)
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