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Torture a Dead End: Intelligence Experts

Intelligence often false and comes at great cost to US reputation

By Victoria Floethe,  Newser User

Posted Dec 21, 2008 6:20 AM CST

(Newser) – Governments have known for centuries that torture yields questionable intelligence, and none of the evidence accumulated during US grilling sessions contradicts that argument, David Rose writes in Vanity Fair. Rose carefully documents the inaccurate and even falsified information obtained from suspects Abu Zubaydah, Binyam Mohamed, Jose Padilla, and Khalid Sheikh Mohammed under duress, to the detriment of America's international reputation.

"I know of no evidence against him other than his own confessions, all of which are the bitter fruit of his abuse," said Binyam's lawyer. Rose concludes that it's impossible to quantify "the damage done to America’s influence with its friends, and of the encouragement provided to its enemies. Even harder to quantify is the damage done to institutions and their morale, especially the CIA."

A courtoom drawing shows Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, center, and co-defendant Walid Bin Attash attending a pre-trial session at Guantanamo Bay.
A courtoom drawing shows Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, center, and co-defendant Walid Bin Attash attending a pre-trial session at Guantanamo Bay.   (AP Photo/ Janet Hamlin, Pool)
In this sketch by a courtroom artist, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed speaks during his arraignment at Guantanamo Bay earlier this year.
In this sketch by a courtroom artist, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed speaks during his arraignment at Guantanamo Bay earlier this year.   (AP Photo/Janet Hamlin, Pool)
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the alleged Sept. 11 mastermind, is seen shortly after his capture in 2003.
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the alleged Sept. 11 mastermind, is seen shortly after his capture in 2003.   (AP Photo-File)
Terror suspect Abu Zubaydah.
Terror suspect Abu Zubaydah.   (AP Photo/U.S. Central Command)
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It is incredible what people say under the compulsion of torture, and how many lies they will tell about themselves and about others; in the end, whatever the torturers want to be true, is true. - German Jesuit Friedrich von Spee in 1631

Nobody in intelligence believes in the ticking bomb. It’s just a way of framing the debate for public consumption. That is not an intelligence reality. - A retired senior C.IA. officer

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed produced no actionable intelligence. He was trying to tell us how stupid we were. - A former Pentagon analyst

They stuck us with a totally unwelcome job and left us hanging out to dry. I’m worried that the next administration is going to prosecute the guys who got involved and there won't be any presidential pardons. - CIA official

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COMMENTS
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John
Dec 22, 2008 2:00 AM CST
So, according to your logic, torture must work. I feel better knowing that.
Guest
Dec 20, 2008 9:19 PM CST
Feragola LOL you almost made me fall out of my chair I was laughing so hard. "Vanity Fair is the apex of balanced and through journalism". Exactly my thoughts.
Guest
Dec 20, 2008 7:49 PM CST
Because Vanity Fair is the Apex of balanced and thorough journalism. The same author could have written a piece about a first hand account of walking on Mars and the readers of this magazine would believe them.

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