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Activist group urges Congress to take a stand

By Evann Gastaldo| Posted Jul 10, 09 12:11 PM CDT|

(Newser) – White supremacists have their own social networking site—and dozens of military personnel are members, reports Stars and Stripes. “I love and will do anything to keep our master race marching,” says the newsaxon.org profile of one user who says he’s served in Iraq and Kuwait. The Southern Poverty Law Center will present 40 such profiles to Congress today in an effort to convince the Pentagon to crack down.

A search for the “military” job category on newsaxon.org, which claims 7,906 total members, generated 130 results. Many openly list their base location or pictures in uniform alongside Nazi and Confederate art. Military regulations prohibit participation in supremacist organizations, but spokespeople gave conflicting answers on how such participation is identified and dealt with. In 2006, Congress called for clarification of the policies, but the Pentagon said it did not see the need.

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US Army soldiers salute to the national flag during the Memorial Day Honor Guard Ceremony at Knight Field in Seoul, South Korea, Friday, May 23, 2008. (AP Photo/ Lee Jin-man)

Skinheads give the Nazi salute during their training outside Moscow, in this June 16, 2004 file photo. (AP Photo/Sergey Ponomarev)

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We urge your committees to investigate the threat posed by racial extremists who may be serving in the military to ensure that our armed forces are not inadvertently training future domestic terrorists. - SPLC's letter to Congress

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2-bits
Jul 10, 09 12:16 PM CDT

Old news. Lots of race talk on Newser these days. I'm personally torn. As a crazy idealist ACLU member, I believe people should be free to express whatever opinion or creed they please. On the other hand these people are frigging Nazi's. (Actually, just racists. I doubt the folks at newsaxon and stormfront and what not have the sophistication to understand the political underpinnings and ideological underpinnings of the Nazi party. They were some classy, well dressed racists, no doubt. ) Reply

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Fondue
Jul 10, 09 12:23 PM CDT

McVeigh was a veteran.

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godawgs
Jul 10, 09 12:25 PM CDT

Well I tend to agree with you, and all views should be accepted. If people want to call themselves Neo-Nazi's they should be allowed, just as every other race is allowed to no like other races (Black Panthers, La Raza, etc) these white guys can do the same. They can't do it in a military uniform, but the military hunts racist's like they hunt gays. They don't, if you admit to either then you can get in trouble.

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godawgs
Jul 10, 09 12:46 PM CDT

Fondue what does McVeigh being a veteran have to do with anything?

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Fondue
Jul 10, 09 1:00 PM CDT

From the SPLC Newsletter I received today: In recent months, our investigators have found dozens of personal profiles of individuals listing "military" as their occupation on a neo-Nazi, Facebook-type website. One person, apparently serving in Afghanistan, lists The Turner Diaries as his favorite book. That's the book by neo-Nazi leader William Pierce that served as the blueprint for the Oklahoma City bombing by Gulf War veteran Timothy McVeigh.

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newsrmandan
Jul 10, 09 2:28 PM CDT

Freedom to express your opinion or crazy ideas should be held in check, for the good of the people, by responsibility. Some Ideas are better, for the whole, then others. What I see as a huge problem for democracy in this country will be its inability to tell what is a good or bad idea for the whole. We live in an postmodern relativistic society, where one mans truth is true to him at expense of actual truth. Who gets to say what is wrong or right will be those that have the majority of the people. White supremest are wrong only because they are a small fringe group, but nothing will stop them or any other ill formed ideas from taking hold once they have a simple majority. Freedom to express all ideas (without restrictions/responsibility) will be the downfall of this great Country.

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easterner
Jul 10, 09 4:49 PM CDT

McVeigh was a veteran. AND executed on June 11, 2001.

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Fondue
Jul 10, 09 5:38 PM CDT

And?

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godawgs
Jul 10, 09 6:36 PM CDT

@fondue congressmen bobby rush is a racist. does that make all black congressmen racist?

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Newser001
Jul 10, 09 7:41 PM CDT

I'm a VRA Vet, and back in the day, this type of bullsh!t wouldn't have been tolerated anytime, anywhere, anyplace. Anyone associating with any type of white supremacist organization (or vise versa) should be immediately brought before court-martial for actions unbecoming a soldier, NCO, officer. PERIOD ! This undermines authority, respect, cohesiveness...

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Sauerkraut
Jul 10, 09 8:40 PM CDT

If any of you ever wanted to see a real nazi, Newsrmandan is it.

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Newser001
Jul 10, 09 10:41 PM CDT

Newsrmandan, you're dead wrong. Serve your country, then you may speak on military issues. There's no place for racism in the military - NONE.

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Fondue
Jul 11, 09 9:09 AM CDT

@godawgs, the point is it only takes a few to do serious damage. McVeigh and Nichols were both veterans and were able to murder 168 innocent people and injure 680, destroyed or damaged 324 buildings in a 16-block radius, causing an estimated $652 million in damage. But to answer your question: no. I really don't see how that matters though. No one is saying all military personnel are racist, they are saying a very small handful are. And what I am saying is that it only takes two to pull off an Oklahoma City bombing.

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UrUndertaker
Jul 10, 09 1:38 PM CDT

At least he wears pants, now go get your panties out of a bunch and get over yourself. As for the servicemen, they are in violation of rules they swore to uphold even if some do think they should have the personal freedom to belong to whatever they wish, White Supremacist groups are not allowed as neither would the Black Panthers be allowed. UCMJ has some pretty strict guidelines dealing with it all and you have to agree before going to serve in the military.

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UrUndertaker
Jul 10, 09 1:40 PM CDT

At least he wears pants, now go get your panties out of a bunch and get over yourself. As "Liberals they often seem to be the only damn one who attempts to use their brain in which to consider situation Neo-Con. As for the servicemen, they are in violation of rules they swore to uphold even if some do think they should have the personal freedom to belong to whatever they wish, White Supremacist groups are not allowed as neither would the Black Panthers be allowed. UCMJ has some pretty strict guidelines dealing with it all and you have to agree before going to serve in the military.

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Sabrina
Jul 10, 09 1:44 PM CDT

Corona Queen, each time you sober up enough to type you expose your true ignorance. Have you considered running for politics? I hear the Republicans are running low on immoral a$$holes and you would do perfectly.

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freethemall
Jul 10, 09 1:46 PM CDT

C_K, why would I just KNOW you would denigrate a person for being a member of the ACLU?

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2-bits
Jul 10, 09 2:33 PM CDT

White supremacist is in the army is a pretty big deal when our army is engaged to protect brown people. Not to mention our army is hardly whitewashed.

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TerrifiedCitizen
Jul 10, 09 1:50 PM CDT

Looks like paramilitary can be something like military. How are you going to weed out individuals who enjoy killing when that's who the military really wants anyway. Reply

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newsrmandan
Jul 10, 09 2:38 PM CDT

Thats not fair or right to the women and men that serve in our military. I know a few marines and I can assure you they don't enjoy it.

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GTORick
Jul 10, 09 2:09 PM CDT

The SPLC couldn't even get that Lt. Commander in the Navy for racism and he practically wrote a book on it! Then, while they were investigating him, he was relieved of duty with full pay and he used his military benefits to get a Masters degree! Reply

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2-bits
Jul 10, 09 2:27 PM CDT

The SPLC has won far more important victories in the past.

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GTORick
Jul 10, 09 2:39 PM CDT

This case WAS a BIG deal to the SPLC. They couldn't even touch this guy. In fact, they gave him enough time off that the smart bugger got a Masters degree in the meantime. This guy was selling books next to a booth that sold white power t-shirts. That was at a convention David Duke spoke at. This same guy also is a business partner with a known terrorist that bombed a train in Italy whoi also might have connections to the USS Cole. This guy also publicly accused Bush of murder. It DOESN'T get bigger than this guy. He is openly racist. The point is the military will do nothing to stop this kind of thing. This guy for example got off scot-free! Without a scratch!

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jamerican
Jul 10, 09 2:56 PM CDT

Why the hell should the US care about this group which is free to try to uphold their beliefs any more than they care about Muslims in our country who have an agenda to take over our country, or the illegal mex's who are trying to take over, or the liberal socialists in our own government who are trying to turn our country into something that our founding fathers never meant it to be, or the idiot liberal judges who do not follow our constitution, or the liberal companies who will sell our language away as long as a mex can read it who is too stupid and lazy to learn our language. Sounds like this country has a lot of work to do to help the rest of us regain our pride in the good old USA. Reply

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martha69
Jul 10, 09 2:58 PM CDT

Huh! I am in the military SPECIFICALLY to protect the right of free thought and expression. There is no such thing as illegal thought in America .. some of you posters frighten me .. ironically because you are supporting the fascism, which is the philosophy advocating conformity of thought. Nazism is actually enforcing the fascism, which is what the posters here are advocating .. they want to punish or outlaw these people for their expressions. Reply

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Fondue
Jul 10, 09 5:36 PM CDT

Sorry Martha, military personnel are forbidden to join extremist groups.

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GTORick
Jul 10, 09 3:40 PM CDT

I agree that the SPLC attacks the 'right' only. They are biased in the extreme. Our society is attacking the 'right'. Law Enforcement also are actively charging,labeling and pursuing the 'right' only. For example: http://www.infowars.com/images/scan0017.jpghttp://www.infowars.com/images/scan0018.jpg http://www.infowars.com/images/scan0019.jpg http://www.infowars.com/images/scan0020.jpg http://www.infowars.com/images/scan0021.jpg http://www.infowars.com/images/scan0022.jpg http://www.infowars.com/images/scan0023.jpg http://www.infowars.com/images/scan0024.jpg This is a copy of a document released only for law enforcement (BTW, if you think this document is fake call the number of the LE agency that released it). This document goes as far as saying 'right' wingers are terrorists. They also don't leave many groups out as you can see a linked FBI document also shows the 'left' wing anmal groups as well. The 'right wig' people/movements are being labeled as terrorists.

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Fondue
Jul 10, 09 5:22 PM CDT

infowars is ridiculous. That dude is insane.

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Newser001
Jul 10, 09 10:30 PM CDT

C_k, Any of you - Have you ever served in the military (I don't believe so, because if you had, you'd never speak of such ill will on this topic)? You're way out of line, man. There's no place in the military for racism - NONE. Its unrelated to anything you're speaking of. You dishonor those that have served, serving, died for you and your freedoms and those that are about to serve and die. You're not amusing, nor contributing anything other than hate. If this is how you get off - How f@cking pethetic.

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bacimom
Jul 10, 09 3:09 PM CDT

Keep the gay good soldiers and get rid of these ticking time bombs. They can express whatever they want as free civilians but the military rules are different and their interpretations of personal rights are way different than civilian rules. If a good, well respected soldier can be booted for breaking an arbitrary rule by outing him(her)self, than military personnel espousing and admitting it being neo-Nazis should bloody well be ousted... along with the Christian right missionaries in the USAF Academy Reply

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Newser001
Jul 10, 09 10:37 PM CDT

I have no problem serving with a gay person. NONE. It shouldn't be an issue. BY forcing those to be silent, you create a set of compromising circumstances that can and will subvert one's career, potentially creating a security breach... As a straight man, I have many friends who are gay, and I appreciate each and everyone of them, for what they are - Trusted friends, because they're out.

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Shannonals
Jul 10, 09 5:24 PM CDT

Not sure why everyone is even debating this trash. The bottom line is if you belong to an organization identifed as a hate group you deserve to be discharged. How can any militayr unit conduct operations knowing that a percentage of it's command has desires to kill the other. Would you go into a combat situation if you had doubts about the man on you left/right covering your back? They all, (this includes all groups), rate to be discharged Reply

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GTORick
Jul 10, 09 8:10 PM CDT

We are debating it because as in my example of the Naval Officer the miliktary tolerates if not encourages this behavior.

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BOMBS_OVER_BAGHDAD
Jul 10, 09 6:45 PM CDT

The sad fact of this matter is up until the recession hit hard, the army and marines were not meeting their recruiting goals and could not have afforded to reject or discharge anyone. Here's to hoping that will change. Reply

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BOMBS_OVER_BAGHDAD
Jul 10, 09 6:50 PM CDT

To the people saying that these folks have the right to have these feelings and join these groups; you could not be more wrong. When you sign on that dotted line you are willingly giving up many rights that you held as a civilian. Reply

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GTORick
Jul 10, 09 8:07 PM CDT

Fondue - The Infowars guy is wrong a good percentge of the time. I agree with you. The document was important and he had it available. Reply

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Fondue
Jul 11, 09 9:14 AM CDT

gotcha

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Loke
Nov 12, 09 9:01 PM CST

Actually the only thing they do is complain who is white and who is not white, nothing more. They dont represent any real danger, they are just internet soldiers. Looks like a white dating site. Reply

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