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Gun-Toting Obama Protester Is a Birther

Secessionist group included among his MySpace friends

By Kevin Spak| Posted Aug 12, 09 11:07 AM CDT|

(Newser) – William Kostric, the man who showed up to protest at Obama’s town hall meeting yesterday with a loaded gun strapped to his leg, told Chris Matthews that he wasn’t affiliated with birther groups. But a web user by the same name has left a digital trail that proves otherwise: "William Kostric" is listed as a “team member” of We the People, a right-wing group that joined a lawsuit challenging Obama’s citizenship, reports Joan Walsh for Salon.

The chances that the two are not the same person "seem slim to none," she notes. Kostric’s other digital footprints mark him as an ardent libertarian. His MySpace page lists among his heroes We the People’s founder, Ayn Rand’s John Galt character, and white supremacist Randy Weaver. He signed a pledge to move to New Hampshire and, with like-minded Libertarians, work to secede. There’s no sign he’s violent, though "William Kostric" once wrote on a libertarian site that drug dealers were justified in shooting police who came into their homes to arrest them.

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William Kostric wears a 9mm pistol as he stands outside a town hall meeting on health care held by President Barack Obama, Tuesday, Aug. 11, 2009, in Portsmouth, NH. (AP Photo/Joel Page)

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TheSniperZero
Aug 12, 09 11:12 AM CDT

"Christ Matthews"? Wow, there's a Freudian slip. Someone's got their nose up MSNBC's backside. Reply

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gabo
Aug 12, 09 11:13 AM CDT

I am shocked, shocked. Reply

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DJM420
Aug 12, 09 11:45 AM CDT

lol...me too, to the nth degree

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Robert_Dada
Aug 12, 09 7:11 PM CDT

William Kostric, strong candidate for president of the 'merican idiocracy. I'm sure the conservatives lunkheads who post on newser gonna vote for that mavericky gun toten' mofo.

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BlueAyez
Aug 12, 09 11:18 AM CDT

We all have the right to bear arms. This isn't in dispute. However, taking a loaded weapon to an event where the president it in attendance is in extremely poor judgement. Had he taken this gun into a courthouse he would have been arrested or turned away-- permit or no. Weapons were routinely carried in early America because of the danger of Indian war or wild animal attack. Neither possibility exists today and especially in a large city. Reply

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Forderon
Aug 12, 09 11:24 AM CDT

You raise a good point about the threat of Indian wars and wild animals. It was a huge reason that the right to bear arms was considered a civil right in that time. Today it just seems silly that the right to bear arms is considered an essential civil right on par with freedom of speech, press, due process etc. I don't want to start a whole gun rights debate, but at the very least, please ban guns within 1 mile of the POTUS.

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Timinator2K
Aug 12, 09 11:41 AM CDT

I'm amazed that the Secret Service didn't detain him...yeah, technically, okay to have a gun...but, near a President??? That's just GIGANTICALLY stupid. He sneezes wrong or, crosses his eyes in an unfriendly manner...and the SS agents have just cause to blow his schit away.

+12

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northeast
Aug 12, 09 12:46 PM CDT

New Hampshire's one of those states where they let you do almost anything you want, but they make it clear that if your freedom results in you being an idiot and harming yourself, tough luck.

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r.carollin
Aug 12, 09 3:24 PM CDT

"Had he taken this gun into a courthouse he would have been arrested or turned away-- permit or no"-BlueAyez. Yes this is true, just like you cannot carry a weapon into a school, government building or places that sell alcohol. BUT, he didn't do that. He followed the rules so you bringing the fact about not being allowed into a courtroom is completely irrelevant. Granted, he could have left it at home, but he chose to exercise his rights. A lot of people carry concealed firearms for personal protection, just happens that you don't see it. Indians and wild animals? What about muggings, homocides and rapes? I can't blame people for carrying weapons for protection when there are things much more dangerous than the wild animals of old running around.

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KurtRambis4va
Aug 14, 09 12:24 PM CDT

I think you are missing the point of this right. It was not just to protect against " animals or indian wars", it was because America was founded on the idea that we have the right to protect ourselves against people and against a tyrannical government (See Cuba and China). On June 26, 2008, we nearly lost our right to bear arms by a slim 5-4 vote, so while this guy didn't use the best judgment as to the setting, he opened up a meaningful conversation that people are ignorant towards

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Fondue
Aug 12, 09 11:19 AM CDT

The idiocy continues. Reply

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ClearSight
Aug 12, 09 1:09 PM CDT

Thanks for the report, we'll be praying for you.

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Fondue
Aug 12, 09 1:40 PM CDT

u're teh cooless.

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littleoopie
Aug 12, 09 11:22 AM CDT

He signed a pledge to move to New Hampshire and, with like-minded Libertarians, work to secede...why not let him/ them? Let's see what ideas he has when it comes to health care, taxes, education for his state, helping the elderly, police, etc., etc., etc. Reply

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Toon
Aug 12, 09 12:13 PM CDT

Why not? Because most of NH are loyal Americans. Yes there are a number of idiots I would mind going Gault but not at the expense of NH.

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Corona_Kinq
Aug 12, 09 11:22 AM CDT

A gun-toting, right-wing, birther, racist? NO WAY! Reply

+10

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DJM420
Aug 12, 09 11:47 AM CDT

real CK! ftw! yeah, this is about as shocking as finding out FOX NOOSE supports these right-wing zealots!

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wwwonderer
Aug 12, 09 3:13 PM CDT

I am SHOCKED!

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Yourself
Aug 12, 09 11:23 AM CDT

hiw quote is what cracks me up really, he'll claim the law is that we have a right to bear arms, but when someone is breakingt he law by growing and producing drugs, then apparently we should be allowed to shoot the cops that come to enforce that law?? can't have it both ways there hypocrite! Reply

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Revenge_of_Mint
Aug 12, 09 11:45 AM CDT

In his mind, at least what i think is going on in his head, it's not both ways. He sees the right to personal freedom(making drugs/dealing) as something we must fight for. replace tyrants personal freedom etc socialism bad or something like that. Basically he disagrees with the law and feels force should be used to change it and cites founding fathers, tea taxes, and paul revere. I disagree with him but he isn't crazy ......maybe. He just has a strong opinion wants to make a point.

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lasty58
Aug 12, 09 12:30 PM CDT

Exactly Revenge_of_Mint. Libertarians want less government control, unlike republicans who really would like a strong government so long as it is pushing their beliefs. As for this guy being a birther, thats just ridiculous. Im a fan of chocolate chip cookies and not being on fire on facebook, doesnt mean these are opinions that are at the core of my beliefs, theyre just for fun. Pulling information off his myspace page and attempting to make a story out of it is not journalism, I was really disappointed to see this on newser.

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UrUndertaker
Aug 12, 09 11:28 AM CDT

"William Kostric" is listed as a “team member” of We the People, a right-wing group that joined a lawsuit challenging Obama’s citizenship.....Let's consider, Right Winger, Birther, Carries a loaded weapon into a Town Hall meeting on insurance..Oh yea, the Right honestly into discussion, ,,,like hell they are. If you are a Right Winger everyone else must submit to your authority..yea right, and they want to compare the Left to Hitler? And their leading groups have swastikas flying in place of an American flag? More proof the right wing is desperately clinging to life and at the same time asking for euthanasia Reply

+15

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DJM420
Aug 12, 09 11:48 AM CDT

i second your comment in its entirety.

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Spudsy
Aug 12, 09 12:17 PM CDT

Bravo UU. Would someone have the b@lls to state this in the "mainstream media" please?

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Scrambles
Aug 12, 09 11:35 AM CDT

He has a damn fine point, its annoyin as hell when cops bust in on my meth production.,..really throws a wrench in my production schedule!!!!!! Reply

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littleoopie
Aug 12, 09 11:43 AM CDT

HA! Classic!

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Revenge_of_Mint
Aug 12, 09 11:48 AM CDT

A monkey wrench! A BIG ONE!

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lasty58
Aug 12, 09 11:51 AM CDT

Didn't know meth was a plant.

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logothete
Aug 12, 09 12:15 PM CDT

@lasty - All depends on whether it's DEA or local narcs. The locals are marginally more likely to make a plant of meth on your ass. Oh, you mean like with leaves!!!! Sorry.

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frankel1205
Aug 12, 09 12:10 PM CDT

Is anyone here surprised? The right wing roaches have scattered and are crawling all around the country. President Obama was right. They are clinging to their guns and religion. I hope his security detail is heightened. Reply

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Wraith
Aug 12, 09 12:15 PM CDT

I hope so also but I know one thing, if an attempt is made to harm this man I fear you then will see a war that tears America apart and will not bode well for the Conservative party. Minority groups will all bond together along with the Left and that will vastly outnumber the freak show carrying guns to a discussion meeting

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r.carollin
Aug 12, 09 3:31 PM CDT

Guns, Guts and God.

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JonmarkP
Aug 12, 09 4:16 PM CDT

And thongs - don't forget that a lot of the Guns Guts and God morons are wearing thongs under those manly clothes. You know, in case they meet a fellow Birther to bring home to the RV.

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Spudsy
Aug 12, 09 12:14 PM CDT

I wish I could carry a gun. You never know when a skeet target is gonna go flying out in front of you. Reply

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inky
Aug 12, 09 12:19 PM CDT

OK, now this is where Fox News hate talk turns really ugly. I think anyone who encouraged this idiot or who stoked his crazy fires should be prosecuted right along with him. It's incitement, pure and simple, and this proves that there are enough stupid people out there willing to do anything to stop their perceived "enemies." Reply

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jamerican
Aug 12, 09 12:19 PM CDT

The founding fathers of this country, who were a lot more honest than the liberal prostitutes in our government today, wanted everyone to have a gun and be in a militia because they knew that governments get out of control and sometimes the people must take their country back with force. Reply

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SPH
Aug 12, 09 1:20 PM CDT

Use the democratic process to "take back their country", it actually works....No one took your country but it appears the country has left you behind....BTW If you threaten blood in the streets keep in mind it will most likely be your blood....

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schmidtkoff
Aug 12, 09 12:28 PM CDT

i suspected that there was another side to this nut job. he came across as just too glib. really scary stuff. again- despite his right to wear a firearm, it should not be allowed on private property where the president of the united states is speaking. Reply

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JonmarkP
Aug 12, 09 4:18 PM CDT

Don't be scared, be angry. And learn now to shoot back if you have to.

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freethemall
Aug 12, 09 1:07 PM CDT

Might as well throw in my ten cents worth: #1. Any gun law should be enforceable and enforced. #2. Guns OK for hunting and target practice. #3. Guns OK for personal protection against criminals. #4. Guns NOT OK for overthrowing the government, that's treason. Reply

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ClearSight
Aug 12, 09 1:15 PM CDT

You really haven't a clue do you ? Obviously not with that well chewed bit of ignorance......

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freethemall
Aug 12, 09 4:03 PM CDT

Elaborate, clearsight.

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freethemall
Aug 12, 09 4:15 PM CDT

Never mind clearsight, I can guess your response: "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants", by Thomas Jefferson. Oh, I'm too ignorant to have heard of that quote. Lets all go get our guns, and march on the government, and take it away from that colored man who is not even a natural born citizen.

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happiness
Aug 12, 09 1:38 PM CDT

It's time for some NEW LAWS relative to the above to be implemented! There is an ugly uprising brewing and it needs to be STOPPED...legally! Reply

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KurtRambis4va
Aug 14, 09 12:38 PM CDT

This uprising is what happened when the first Americans came to America...That is why we have guns, so we can uprise if we have to. You know Americans are idiots, and one day, I'm not saying now, but it is always possible to vote in a dictator along the lines of these power hungry dictators who take away your rights and leave you defenseless against an uprise. Hitler did it and thankfully other nations with power came in destroyed the regime. Am I saying Obama is a dictator with these intentions? No, he is doing what he thinks best, just as all of you are, but without these rights, it destroys any possibility of taking back a country that was created to make you live the life to the best of your ability, and without having the government interfering

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LibertyMan
Aug 12, 09 4:48 PM CDT

Spoken like a true blue fascist liberal happiness person. It is ALL OK as long as you have a law. Welcome to Fascist Liberal Amerika! Reply

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Fondue
Aug 12, 09 6:01 PM CDT

If this would have happened to a Republican president, he would have been arrested on the spot regardless of NH law. Don't believe me, try it if one ever gets elected in your life time.

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So_Cal_Larry
Aug 12, 09 6:34 PM CDT

There is a new book about who assassinated President John Kennedy. The pointers are to the various intelligence agencies of the United States. I personally believe that the Secret Service was negligent in permitting a loaded gun at a Presidential event. Suppose John Hinkley (Pres. Reagan) had a permit. Suppose Sara Jane Moore (Pres. Ford) had a permit. Suppose Squeaky Fromme (Pres. Ford) had a permit. All that was needed was a faster draw than the Secret Service - and we know how good they were for President Kennedy and for President Reagan. There are incredible numbers of racists and other right wingers who want this black President gone. And they don't care how it happens. And likely some would sacrifice themselves to do it. So, once again, I ask the Secret Service why a gun toter was allowed at a Presidential event if your charge is to protect the President of the United States. I personally believe that heads should roll on this decision. Reply

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freethemall
Aug 12, 09 10:47 PM CDT

A new book about who assassinated Kennedy? Lee Harvey Oswald assassinated Kennedy. There was no conspiracy. Similarly,John Hinkley shot Reagan, Sara Jane Moore tried to shoot Ford, as did Squeaky Fromme. No conspiracies. And if some racist should (God forbid) assassinate President Obama, there would likely be no conspiracy, just one crazy individual,

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cognitivefilter
Aug 12, 09 10:25 PM CDT

THIS IS ABSURD? just because he is linked to a group that supported some out-there investigations, especially on such a serious website as myspace, doesn't mean that he is crazy. if he says he's not a birther, he clearly doesn't want to support the birther cause publicly. that to me sounds...pretty non-supportive. Reply

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cornelison
Aug 12, 09 10:50 PM CDT

Am surprised that the NRA hasn't weighed against health care. Reply

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kansas1946
Aug 12, 09 11:35 PM CDT

Eeeeek....birther attack. Run for your lives. Dumb as a post and locked an loaded. The snaggle-toothed creeps are coming out of the wood work, and the really sad thing is that they think they are patriots. Reply

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kansas1946
Aug 12, 09 11:38 PM CDT

You raise a good point about the threat of Indian wars and wild animals. It was a huge reason that the right to bear arms was considered a civil right in that time ***************************************************** Actually, Indians and wild animals had nothing to do with the second amendment. No one in their right mind would be in a wilderness area without a gun, then or now, but the 2nd amendment was written so the American's could protect themselves against the government. A big concern of the early Americans considering what went on in England. Reply

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Forderon
Aug 13, 09 12:58 AM CDT

You just made my point: the 2nd amendment is outdated. How are guns going to protect us from the gov't?

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Forderon
Aug 13, 09 1:03 AM CDT

As for the wilderness. The point, again, is that in 2009 there aren't too many people living amongst wild animals. Most wild animals today are either in a controlled environment, watched by authorities, or they're domesticated. So the argument that we should have the civil right to protect ourselves from wild animals is outdated.

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dawgsarge1
Aug 13, 09 6:36 PM CDT

Kostric/Joe the Plumber 2012!!! Can the republicans make their demise any more public and any easier? ....idiocracy in full effect!! Reply

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ebbtide
Aug 15, 09 8:40 AM CDT

Birthers Guns hmm,,, see the bogus and trumped up case against Daniel Boyd as a “false flag" operation against innocent men who have strong religious views to take away US citizen rights guaranteed by the bill of rights about freedom of speech and gun ownership etc etc and to scare people –big time! Don’t be fooled! Know your constitutional rights! Search, Seek, Reflect, the truth will set you free…. http://supportdanielboyd.wordpress.com http://supportboyd.blogspot.com/ Reply

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Reader68389796
Aug 15, 09 4:01 PM CDT

He reminds me of the guy who shot those women at the Fitness Center, the only difference is the guy at the center used his while this fool had his strapped to his leg. What a coincidence! But this is America and we need our guns! Don't we Sarah? Reply

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radnip
Sep 30, 09 4:37 AM CDT

So he's a birther and a liar. At least he's consistent...consistently crazy and irresponsible. Too bad the irresponsible and crazy can get guns... Reply

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