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Zelaya Supporters Clash With Honduran Police

By John Johnson| Posted Sep 22, 09 2:06 PM CDT|

(Newser) – Honduras' tense political situation may be coming to a head. Riot police clashed with supporters of ousted President Manuel Zelaya today outside the Brazilian embassy, where Zelaya has been holed up for a day since sneaking back into the country. Police fired tear gas at the protesters, who returned fire with rocks, reports Reuters. The hospital in Tegucigalpa treated at least 20 people, some with broken arms and legs.

Zelaya has been holding court with international media outlets since his return from 3 months in exile, and he predicted that Honduran troops may try to storm the embassy: "I foresee bigger acts of aggression and violence." He also encouraged supporters to converge on the city. Brazil, which doesn't recognize the de facto government that ousted Zelaya, says he can stay inside the embassy as long as he wants.

A riot police officer walks in front of the Brazilian embassy. (AP Photo/Esteban Felix)

Manuel Zelaya speaks on a cell phone at the Brazilian embassy in Tegucigalpa Tuesday. (AP Photo/Esteban Felix)

Manuel Zelaya speak during a interview with local media inside Brazil's embassy in Tegucigalpa Tuesday. (AP Photo/Esteban Felix)

Unrest in front of Brazil embassy in Tegucigalpa Tuesday. (AP Photo/Esteban Felix)

Riot police clash with supporters of Manuel Zelaya in front of the Brazilian embassy in Tegucigalpa Tuesday. (AP Photo/Esteban Felix)

Supporter of Honduras' ousted President Manuel Zelaya run for cover during clashes with riot police. (AP Photo/Esteban Felix)

A supporter of Honduras' ousted President Manuel Zelaya throws a stone during clashes with riot police outside the Brazilian embassy in Tegucigalpa Tuesday. (AP Photo/Fernando Antonio)

Supporters of Honduras' ousted President Manuel Zelaya rest in the Brazil's embassy in Tegucigalpa Tuesday. (AP Photo/Esteban Felix)

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DontLikeYou
Sep 22, 09 2:13 PM CDT

Capture the criminal and put him in jail where he belongs. Reply

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DontLikeYou
Sep 22, 09 2:14 PM CDT

Storm the Brazilian embassy and then shut it down for interfering in Honduran affairs.

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emptycalm
Sep 22, 09 2:35 PM CDT

yes, go against the will of the honduran people. Thats what a real democracy is.

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Jayster999
Sep 22, 09 3:01 PM CDT

I agree. If Brazil is backing Zelaya, they are no longer friends of the Honduran people.

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Jayster999
Sep 22, 09 2:56 PM CDT

The majority of Hondurans back their supreme court and legislature, not the Marxist hack Zelaya who would be El Presidente for life. Zelaya was lawfully removed after braking the laws of his country. He had millions of dollars stashed which had come from Chavez in Venezuela for the express purpose of financing a Marxist takeover. Zelaya was told not to return and now should be tried and executed as the traitor that he is. His return to Honduras is for no other reason that to foment revolution. Zelaya should be shot like the traitorous dictator wannabe that he is. Reply

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emptycalm
Sep 22, 09 3:05 PM CDT

First off, as always, learn what words mean. That dude is far from a marxist. Second, he has no intention of even serving after his term so this alleged "dictatorship for life" would not effect him, nor would it even exist. Also, did you just say FINANCE a marxist takeover? You obviously must have no understanding of marxism.

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JimW
Sep 22, 09 4:35 PM CDT

I agree completely. I have a very good friend in Honduras. Basically, Zelaya was trying to extend his term. The Congress refused him, the Supreme Court. refused him, both told him that his 'Special Election" was illegal, and he tried to do it anyway. He was trying to pull a Chavez. What is so strange to me that the U.S. is backing him (Zelaya) and actually siding with Chavez on this. I am an Obama fan, but this particular gig really smells rotten to me somehow. Why anyone voted no to Jayster's comment is kinda weird. He gets punished for being factually correct?

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RobN
Sep 22, 09 10:32 PM CDT

Welcome to Newser, JimW. Yes, you get punished for being factually correct here if the facts don't coincide with what people wish to believe. Don't worry, it won't surprise you for long.

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wvstanley
Sep 22, 09 3:13 PM CDT

Beyond Stupidity. How can it be that the original story has been so distorted. What Zelaya did was call for a NON-BINDING referendum to see whether the people would desire to change the election rules. Every entity knows this from the US Gov't to the Eurppean Union to the Organization of American States to the United Nations. That's why there has been universal condemnation regarding the illegal coup. What was the Honduran Congress afraid of if about NON-BINDING initiative. This referendum was an attempt by the legal President to hear a democratic response to a question that many in Honduras were eager to ask. It in no way called for a change in the Honduran Constitution. These creeps illegally overthrew a legitimate President. Reply

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Jayster999
Sep 22, 09 4:16 PM CDT

Beyond stupidity indeed. The original story HAS been distorted--by our media, who called Zelaya's removal a "military coup"--which it certainly was not. By Honduran law, a president may not move to change term limits for that office, it is unconstitutional. Zelaya had millions of dollars which he was using to print fliers calling for a referendum of the people to change the constitution. The supreme court voted to remove him. The legislature voted overwhelmingly to remove him. The military put him on a plane and shipped him out of the country. Zelaya IS agitating for a Marxist coup in Honduras. Look at his supporters. They are wearing Red. Get your facts straight. If you are backing a communist overthrow of Honduras, fine, but be honest about it. If you really believe that no such threat exists, then do your homework because you are dead wrong. WATCH THIS before you reply: http://www.pjtv.com/video/Specials/Dateline_Honduras%3A_Supreme_Court_Justifies_Presidential_Firing/2288/

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lindamae
Sep 23, 09 12:11 AM CDT

I suspect that you are as willing to throw out the US Constitution as you expect Honduras to do. You need to read the articles about what the Honduran Constitution does day - and then you'll see the error of your premise. That you won't honor and protect the rights of Hondurans to follow the laws in their own form of government, I wonder what you really think about our Supreme Law of our Land?

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Jayster999
Sep 22, 09 4:00 PM CDT

Zelaya IS a Marxist, as are Chavez in Venezuela, Danny Ortega in Nicaragua and Castro in Cuba. If you are unaware of the political beliefs of these goons and/or the essential tenets of Marxism, then it is you who needs education. They all believe in a dictatorship of the proletariat--which really means dictatorship by the one who seizes power. Marxism has always been a bait and switch proposition where the lower classes are inspired to revolution--only to find that the new government is more oppressive than the old one. Russia, China, Cambodia--they all had bloody purges in which millions were murdered before and after the communists gained power. This type of socialism (and all others) depend on the gullibility of peasants who think that their lives will improve under a "benevolent revolutionary dictatorship"--when there is no such thing. BTW: Marxist revolutions are always bankrolled (guns and bullets and the printing of propaganda aren't free). Reply

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emptycalm
Sep 22, 09 4:07 PM CDT

Social democrat. Not marxist. Taking a few marxist principles does not make him one. Democrats use a few "socialist" policies but I would hardly call them commies. Call him a socialist, fine to some extent but anyone with a moderate understanding of what marxism is can see that is not this guys intent. He is a liberal through and through for sure but any real commie would not adhere to such liberal policies.

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Jayster999
Sep 22, 09 4:27 PM CDT

I know that you would "hardly call them commies", because you want to excuse their actions and their ideology. Be truthful, even if Zelaya were a big, fat commie, you'd really see nothing wrong with it. The fact that Cuba remains a communist dictatorship is okay, right? Chavez and his oppression of the media and nationalization of industry doesn't bother you either. What DOES bother you is when someone such as myself, who has examined this situation in more depth than you, makes the plain and simple truthful claim that a leftist is trying to claim power illegally and WE are backing him. You can make excuses for this bum all you want, but he is another Marxist thug trying to become a dictator--nothing more and nothing less. He is what he is--deal with it. Reply

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JimW
Sep 22, 09 4:41 PM CDT

Right again. That is the same info I am getting from my friends in Honduras, both Hondurans and resident Americans.

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emptycalm
Sep 22, 09 10:52 PM CDT

Cuba is not a communist dictatorship either man. Communism is the end result and no country ever made it. Not china, not russia, not cuba and certainly not Venezuela or Honduras. There is little accurate in what you said. You're a liar of the worst kind, you don't even know yr lying! You're misusing words to add the the already epic level of disinformation against socialism. I'm not a red but I do like to use words as they mean and not as I want them to mean to make me look good.

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Jayster999
Sep 22, 09 11:08 PM CDT

Of course "no country ever made it"--like I said, communism is a B.S. theory that will never work because a void in power will always be filled. Marx knew it would never work. He was a liar and a very evil man. According to Marx, the government would eventually "fall away" after the need for proletarian government fades as people evolve into a true and voluntary communal state. LOL. As if. People in total power NEVER walk away from that. Look, you can argue semantics and obfuscate all you like but that doesn't change that fact that Zelaya is a Marxist dictator wannabe. You seem so set against the words "communist" or "Marxist" to describe the left-wing dictatorships that I mentioned--what do you propose to call them? "Enlightened progressive democratic collectivists"? Gimme a break.

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proud_prude
Sep 22, 09 7:44 PM CDT

Jester666 has to be one of the rnost insidious of all the trolls on newser. He is a pure propagandist with no regard whatsoever for fact or fair play.That Zelaya chose the Brazilian embassy as where to make his stand undoubtedly with the approval of the Brazilian president, Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva despite denials, is a strategic masterstroke, for it shifts the away from Venezuela and Hugo Chavez (as the Honduran plotters have tried to frame the crisis) and toward Lula, everyone's favorite democratic leftist. Brazil's Foreign Minister, Celso Amorim, responded to the coup government's demand that Brazil turn Zelaya over by saying that any threat to the legitimate president or the embassy would be a grave breach of international law. Those backing the coup perhaps sense that their game is up; a communiqué issued by the National Front Against the Coup reports that some businessmen and military leaders who supported Zelaya's overthrow are leaving the country. Meanwhile, back in the US, the Washington Post has decided to actually forgo reporting on the story, instead allowing Michelletti space on its op-ed page -- in a piece probably written by one of the coup's US flaks, like Otto Reich or Lanny Davis -- to make one last pitch for the November election, which he promises will be a "constitutional expression of self-determination and a demonstration of national sovereignty." Reich or Davis -- ur, I mean Micheletti -- forgot to mention that the coup government, in effort to ensure high turnout, has threatened to throw in jail anyone who doesn't vote in that election, and has revoked the citizenship of the environmentalist Catholic priest José Andrés Tamayo, born in El Salvador but living in Honduras since 1983, for calling for a boycott of those elections. If this is a moment of truth for Honduras, it is also one for Washington. Greg Grandin http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/09/22-3 Reply

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Jayster999
Sep 22, 09 9:17 PM CDT

Wow. You accuse ME of propaganda? The left-wing rubbish on common(communist?)dreams.com is pure crap. Go to PJTV.com and watch the Honduras videos there which show members of the legistlature and judiciary explaining the WHOLE story and inviting the American government to come and assess the situation in person. Zelaya is a communist and a cowardly cur who crept back into Honduras and is hiding under the skirt of Brazil. How you can call yourself an American and back Chavez, Castro and Zelaya is beyond me. You are a disgrace.

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lindamae
Sep 23, 09 12:04 AM CDT

Zelaya should get some common sense and return to the US. Van Jones has gone and there is an opening in Obama's administration to fill. Zalaya would fit in perfectly with Obama and the rest of his czars. Reply

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Jayster999
Sep 23, 09 12:21 AM CDT

Awesome post. So funny. SO true.

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