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Senate Finance Panel Agrees at Last—to Fund Abstinence Ed

Conrad, Lincoln, join GOP to pass measure

By Kevin Spak| Posted Sep 30, 09 8:12 AM CDT|

(Newser) – On the same day it voted to kill Democrats' hopes for a health bill with a public option, the Senate Finance Committee showed the love to abstinence. Committee Republicans displayed a little nostalgia for the Bush administration, voting to restore $50 million a year in federal funding for abstinence-only education that President Obama has pushed to eliminate. The 12-11 vote came over objections from chairman Max Baucus.

Democrats Kent Conrad of North Dakota and Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas joined all 10 committee Republicans in voting for Orrin Hatch's proposal; the measure will still have to pass the full House and Senate. Obama had proposed in his 2010 budget to direct money spent on abstinence-only education to broader teen pregnancy-reduction programs. An alternate measure offered by Baucus to make money available for education on contraception and STDs in addition to abstinence also passed, in a 14-9 vote.

Senate Finance Committee members Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, left, and Sen. Kent Conrad, D-ND, talk on Capitol Hill. (AP Photo/Susan Walsh)

Sen. Kent Conrad, D-ND, speaks with the press before a meeting on Capitol Hill, Tuesday, Sept. 15, 2009, in Washington. (AP Photo/Haraz N. Ghanbari)

In this March 24, 2009, Senate Budget Committee Chairman Sen. Kent Conrad, D-ND, meets with reporters on Capitol Hill in Washington. (AP Photo/Alex Brandon, FILE)

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Fondue
Sep 30, 09 8:15 AM CDT

They're going to spend $50 million on something most teens won't pay attention to. Reply

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DJM420
Sep 30, 09 8:17 AM CDT

pretty much jinx, you owe me a coke

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rkossik
Sep 30, 09 9:34 AM CDT

See what Democrats can accomplish by working with Republicans? Now let's restore funding for treating the plague with astrology.

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hybrid
Sep 30, 09 11:12 AM CDT

this is awsome, you cant get healthcare out of the Senate Finance Committee but the rep can get this out! dems just dont have it

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Spudsy
Sep 30, 09 5:26 PM CDT

Don't go trashing astrology rkossik, The great Republican God Reagan used it in the White House with Nancy.

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DJM420
Sep 30, 09 8:16 AM CDT

is this really what repubs had up their sleeves for the last 10 months? time-wasters... Reply

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Derni
Sep 30, 09 8:19 AM CDT

wHAT A wASTE OF MONEY-Republicans should readthe data and talk with people that deal with adolescents -get your head our of the sand-if our repbulican legistators can't keep it in their pants evven when married why do they waste it on adolescents that hvae a frontal lobe that can't stop them from having sex-idiots Reply

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tman3220
Sep 30, 09 9:23 AM CDT

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Doctor_Zaius
Sep 30, 09 9:33 AM CDT

You're high right now aren't you tman? Must be nice to live outside of reality like you do....

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tman3220
Sep 30, 09 9:36 AM CDT

No, Doctor, I've just been a Christian since I was 15. My parents did not, and do not, go to church. But the attitude in most people that Christian teaching is wrong, or Abstinence is bad, is crazy. Do you not agree with that?

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tman3220
Sep 30, 09 9:39 AM CDT

No, Doctor, but i am completely blown away that anyone would get so up in the air about this. Why are people not just skeptical, or opposed, but absolutely vehemently opposed against ONE program that will do absolutely NO harm.....

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Doctor_Zaius
Sep 30, 09 9:40 AM CDT

Abstinence only education doesn't work. Condoms do. Only a fool would ignore the facts for what they wish was true. Wish in one hand and crap in the other, see what piles up first.

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Doctor_Zaius
Sep 30, 09 9:42 AM CDT

Way to go Mississippi! You are number 1...in teen pregnancy! http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28538524/

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tman3220
Sep 30, 09 9:44 AM CDT

Doctor, I am not from Mississippi, and I'm not sure where you guys got that idea, but I'm not. But I found Christ at 15, not just found Christ, I got the Holy Ghost. It changed my life. And I have lived an abstinent life ALL my life. Because I love Christ, and forncation is sin. And when you really know God, I mean really know Him, you want to do what pleases God. And I have scores of friiends that saved themselves for marriage. I know that rape and incest and other atrocities often rob some of their purity, physically speaking, but teaching kids to respect their bodies, and others bodies, I think is a wonderful thing.

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tman3220
Sep 30, 09 9:47 AM CDT

Just because many people do not listen, does not mean we should cease to attempt to help those that will listen. By that standard, that it DOES NOT WORK, then, ok, public Education doesn't work. So, let's shut the schools down. Because, hey, look at the dropout rates. Man, what's wrong with Obama, can't he see Education doesn't work. No, you would never say that, that's why I say you should not attack the abstinence teaching.

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schmidtkoff
Sep 30, 09 9:49 AM CDT

whoa, perverts like who? beastiality? don't walk around in your own head tman,, it's a bad neighborhood.

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tman3220
Sep 30, 09 9:51 AM CDT

And Doc I respect you because you often offer sound arguments for what you believe. And trust me, I know there are tons of Christians out there that have profaned what Christ stood for. And i cannot defend that. But, I know that anyone, ANYONE, that embraces truth, and honestly seeks God, God always helps them. And I have seen kids who were sex maniacs and druggies, come to church, and God completely turn their lives around. He did if for me, and the only hope our kids have is if we start giving the palpable alternatives to this oversexed society.....

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prowlerzee
Sep 30, 09 10:07 AM CDT

tman, you must've missed Neal Horsely, the rightwinger who said that every farmboy's first "girlfriend" is a mule. Sorry, but beastiality is solidly in your camp, not the "lefties."

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Snarfeh
Sep 30, 09 10:18 AM CDT

Tman, your finding Christ is great for you. I'm happy for you. But it has been proven that abstinence programs do not work. If they worked, then hell yeah, I'd be for spending this money. But they don't and that is just...well...nature....

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BleeBloo
Sep 30, 09 11:09 AM CDT

Not a fan of your grammar, but your point is spot on.

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fancygapva
Sep 30, 09 11:13 AM CDT

Abstinance Education does no harm? Ask Palin's teen aged mom daughter if it does not harm. That was the "education" she had.

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Spydiggity
Oct 2, 09 10:25 PM CDT

tman, you're a complete retard. it's best that you just delete your newser account

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Aelius28
Sep 30, 09 8:22 AM CDT

Oh my god... old conservative prudish Christian fucks. I can't wait until these people die and we get the next generation passing legislation. It's insane. Abstinence education doesn't work, it never has worked, it doesn't work in ANY country or ANY state and we've proven this time and fucking time again. But I guess that's what you get from a conservative traditionalist Christian culture borne out of an era with contraptions such as the chastity belt and values so ridiculously conservative and prudish it'd make a nun blush. Reply

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Jes
Sep 30, 09 8:37 AM CDT

Thank you, Aelius. Abstinence only education is an expensive and disingenuous farce. I still remember in 6th grade working on one of the packets they sent home as "homework" and my mom reading over my shoulder and flipping out when she saw they were telling us condoms have a failure rate of 67%. No lie. Luckily I had parents who would talk to me, but most of my classmates got all their information from school classes or equally ignorant friends. I still know people who graduated the same time as I did who believe condoms are unsafe and increase your chance of STDs.

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Aelius28
Sep 30, 09 8:40 AM CDT

Oh god... you serious? They were teaching that condoms have significant rates of failure? Jesus, what state is this? In any case, I didn't realize it was THIS bad in the U.S., I live in Canada =/

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Jes
Sep 30, 09 9:27 AM CDT

Missouri, in a midsized conservative city. Also, the class wasn't taught by teachers, it was taught by two youth pastors from a local baptist church. And people wonder why a high school with a student population of about 900 has a daycare.

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tman3220
Sep 30, 09 9:31 AM CDT

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Doctor_Zaius
Sep 30, 09 9:37 AM CDT

tman are you for real? I am so glad you are relegated to a backward, non-functional, loser state like Mississippi and not with the rest of us in civilization.

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tman3220
Sep 30, 09 10:03 AM CDT

I'm for real, and i'm not from Mississippi. Lol. Where are you getting that from.

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Doctor_Zaius
Sep 30, 09 10:47 AM CDT

Your profile, genius.

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Reader64481089
Sep 30, 09 11:00 AM CDT

@ tman3220 --- Registered User--- Joined Newser on: Sep 19, 09 7:33 PM CDT--- LOCATION: Jackson, MS ---

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schmidtkoff
Sep 30, 09 1:37 PM CDT

@dr. oh doc - you never cease to amaze me. right on. excelente.

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shonangreg
Sep 30, 09 8:27 AM CDT

*This* is the government coming between the patient and their doctor-teacher. The government tells the doctor to tell the patient to abstain from sex till married. Where is the Republican outrage at this intrusion? And it is government propaganda at the same time. teachers are told how to teach their classes. "Push abstinence on them". Reply

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Aelius28
Sep 30, 09 8:36 AM CDT

There's no Republican outrage because the Republicans are the ones trying to put this shit in. Did you even read the article? The Democrats don't want this shit.

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godawgs
Sep 30, 09 9:19 AM CDT

@aelius while i don't agree with abstinence only education this wouldn't have even passed committee without the vote of two DEMOCRATIC senators. So you are incorrect in your statement.

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tman3220
Sep 30, 09 9:34 AM CDT

Whew.... Can't have that....... Teach kids not to go out and have sex with shonangreg..... or, how to put condoms on cucumbers..... Yeah, the right is still right. People with your kind of mentatlity are enablers to pedophiles. And some of you talk about how many kids end up pregnant. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO STOP ANY OF IT!!!! ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!! Because, you like it when poor kids get pregnant and sexually abused. You libs think it's cool..... Thank God Almighty I'm a Republican.....

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shonangreg
Sep 30, 09 10:08 AM CDT

Aelius, I was pointing out the irony in the Republicans creating legislation that they themselves oppose in general. Wasn't that obvious? . . . And tman, you don't even say anything coherently enough to respond to . . .

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schmidtkoff
Sep 30, 09 10:24 AM CDT

@tsman- abstinence does not work. if it did then we would not have 12 year old children having babies. and it has nothing to do with pedophiles, but everything to do about the lack of sex education. sex education is a dirty subject to the bible thumpers who have a perverted view of sex. you and your ilk would love to take the america back to the 40's and 50's, where even married pregnant women were thought to be indecent when seen pregnant in public. and if perchance back then, a teen got pregnant, (yes, its been going on since then and before) you, as the unfortunate pregnant teen would have been shipped off to montana to visit your aunt, if anyone asked. then when the kid gave birth it would immediately be given up for adoption, and the poor kid would return to her community free of shame for herself and family. do you really want to go there? you have warped thinking.

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Caps
Sep 30, 09 1:14 PM CDT

tman3220, you can tell you are a Republican, you talk the talk, but you don't walk the talk. I am so tired of you Republicans hiding behind the bible.

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BlahBlahBlah
Sep 30, 09 8:32 AM CDT

What's next? Pull out only education. Wow, get with the times GOP, spending 50 million on telling horny teens not to have sex. Sure, let me know how that works out for ya. Does the GOP seriously think.... oh, wait.....never mind. I can answer my own question. Yes, they are that dumb, they seriously think that the tactics used 40 - 50 years ago will work on kids today. Ummmmm, sorry, no they will not. If you have not noticed teen pregnancy is no going away. I guess it is easy for both democrats and republicans to be totally inept on social issues such as this. They live in that cushy little bubble they have built for themselves. Reply

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Aelius28
Sep 30, 09 8:37 AM CDT

What are the democrats inept at for social issues in this matter? Or are you speaking more broadly, not just sexual education?

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BlahBlahBlah
Sep 30, 09 11:48 AM CDT

Yes, I was speaking in broad terms about both parties. One must admit the disconnect that politicians in general show in association to their working civilian counterparts is pretty massive. The longer they spend in government the more disconnected they become. All of them are guilty of it. They get so wrapped up in the world that they occupy they tend not tot think past the walls that surround them. I suppose that is true of us all in some sense. Then again when you are given the privilege to sit a government position you are held to a higher standard than your average American.

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Woofer58
Sep 30, 09 8:49 AM CDT

It's ironic that Hatch's state is Mormon- who "traditionally" believed in multiple wives, premarital sex and, for many years, had the lowest 'age-of-consent' in the country. Hmmmmmmm...... Reply

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tman3220
Sep 30, 09 9:25 AM CDT

Boy, you people are very intellectual about sleaze. If you people wanna be pimps and whores, that your business. But there are stll lots of people who care about purity, and lots of men that actually RESPECT women, you can keep your filth to yourself loser.

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Jes
Sep 30, 09 9:37 AM CDT

LOL! Where the fuck does this notion come from that makes celibacy "pure?" And since when does a man desiring sex make him disrespect women? I've never felt disrespected from being around a guy just because he wasn't a virgin, or even candidly discussing sex with my male friends. Women aren't delicate and chase little flowers who only have sex when forced by those awful brutes of disrespectful men.

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Doctor_Zaius
Sep 30, 09 9:38 AM CDT

I guarantee more filth goes on in your world than mine.

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prowlerzee
Sep 30, 09 10:12 AM CDT

".. and lots of men that actually RESPECT women," Mm. Maybe. It's not very evident, and they're definitely not called "Mormons!"

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prowlerzee
Sep 30, 09 10:15 AM CDT

Well, Jes, I have no doubt you think your generation of men "respect" you. We second-wavers thought so, too, at one time. But hopefully, you'll come to understand that sitting around with your male "buddies" and laughing at those tawdry reality shows on MTV isn't post-sexist. Just a guess, but probably true, since they're rampant and the shows like that wouldn't proliferate without an audience.

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schmidtkoff
Sep 30, 09 10:36 AM CDT

i think the tman doth protest too much. i think the filth resides in his mind and the word repressed comes to mind. free yourself tman. expand your worldview about, well, everything! bob dylan: " i wish that for just one time you could stand inside my shoes and just for that one moment i could be you yes, i wish that for just one time you could stand inside my shoes you'd know what a drag it is to see you "

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schmidtkoff
Sep 30, 09 2:07 PM CDT

@tman - not sure where you are going with your depraved rants. beastiality, pimps, whores, purity. where is the purity of your thinking? it seems that your thoughts are muddied by conflicted thoughts of women and purity and respect of women. i can only surmise that the filth you speak of represents your true thoughts of sex, women and your own repressed feelings and beliefs of your own sexuality. Too much church can be damaging especially if it is a punishing god, who you seem to believe in. there is a better way. you really don’t have to live such a stilted life, .unless that is all you aspire to. your world view of errant women, your talk of sleaze is, well, despite your protestations of respecting women, I think that you do not.

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rockermocking
Sep 30, 09 8:51 AM CDT

people who push for bills like these haven't walked down the hall of a large public high school in session. I went to a abstinence-only taught school district and I saw plenty of fellow female students pregnant as a result. Reply

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tman3220
Sep 30, 09 9:28 AM CDT

Your an idiot. So, I guess, since, nobody is going to listen. Let's just quit fighting racism too. And, rape. Let's just let women get raped, because, EVERYBODY'S doing it. Shoot, Even Bill Clinton got him little forced on the side. No maam, it needs to be taught, no matter who doesn't listen. I am 33 years old and still a virgin. Probably because I saw my sister get raped when I was a little boy. But it made me want to respect women. And I don't understand people who are always demonizing people who want to teach kids to be pure.

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Doctor_Zaius
Sep 30, 09 9:43 AM CDT

I never take anyone seriously who doesn't know the difference between "your" nd "you're"

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Doctor_Zaius
Sep 30, 09 9:44 AM CDT

"I am 33 years old and still a virgin. " That explains a lot.

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skeptik
Sep 30, 09 9:47 AM CDT

If you are still a virgin, tman, how is it that you have children that you will not let watch the Sesame Street episode that has a guest spot with Michelle Obama?

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tman3220
Sep 30, 09 10:05 AM CDT

Lol, the kids was a joke. I don't have kids. Good eye though bro.

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tman3220
Sep 30, 09 10:07 AM CDT

They were pregnant because they didn't listen, not because they were taught abstinence.

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Aelius28
Sep 30, 09 10:12 AM CDT

tman, that's a bit like not wearing a seatbelt because the safest way to drive a car is not to crash. It's absurd. You wear a seatbelt for the same reason you wear a condom. Because you need to prepare and plan for the most dangerous possible outcome.

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schmidtkoff
Sep 30, 09 10:40 AM CDT

@tman - you're a sick mother.

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Reader64481089
Sep 30, 09 10:43 AM CDT

@ Aelius28, we should kick tmans parents a$$ for not wearing a condom....... a classic example when a condom was needed badly but they failed

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JaneMP
Sep 30, 09 11:13 AM CDT

I taught at a school for pregant teenagers. NONE of the young women thought they'd get pregnant because they'd never had any realistic sex education. I had the FIFTH grade homeroom. Several of these young women didn't know sex could make them pg. We also had a clinic run by the university hopsital and prescribed birthcontrol. Very few of those young women had another baby as a high school student. Teach them what they need to know to make a good decision.

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rockermocking
Sep 30, 09 11:31 AM CDT

@ JaneMP What you say is also what I heard. I had female friends who at 12 years old were having sex and didn't even know what they were doing, nor that it could have consequences. They were not raped, just that they didn't know any better. While I agree, encouraging kids to wait for sex is a smart idea, telling out right lies on contraceptives and/or not even telling kids how to use them is completely backwards and wrong. For the first time since Roe V. Wade, teen births have been going up.

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fancygapva
Sep 30, 09 9:06 PM CDT

@tman you're a 33 year old virgin who is very concerned that children be "pure." Purity in children in one of the obsessions of many child molesters. Are you a 33 year old virgin who has just played with little kids? And that's not really sex? How old was your sister when you witnessed that? how old were you? At certain ages sexual preferences (not orientations) are imprinted. Is that the source of fascination here, for you? You need to wonder why this thread got you so upset and why you expressed it in such ugly ways. I do.

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thephat
Sep 30, 09 8:53 AM CDT

They should have just spent it on new cloths for Santa, or Easter Bunny subsidies. Reply

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QueenAlli
Sep 30, 09 9:08 AM CDT

FIFTY MILLION DOLLARS ON A FUCKING PROGRAM THAT HAS PROVEN TO NOT WORK. YET VOTE NO ON THE PO WHICH WILL SAVE A TON OF MONEY - JACKASSES!!!!!!!!!! Reply

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godawgs
Sep 30, 09 9:20 AM CDT

caps lock get stuck?

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youngblood
Sep 30, 09 12:29 PM CDT

No but I think your brain got stuck

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tman3220
Sep 30, 09 10:34 AM CDT

That's it? God damnit, such sensitive prudish fucks in this country. There's nothing intrinsically evil or special about the human body, at any stage in its development to warrant banning it. If someone is sexually abusing kids for the purposes of child pornography, then arrest them for sexually abusing these kids! But who cares if some people are sexually attracted to this kind of stuff, it's nothing they can help and it doesn't harm anybody if they masturbate to such photos. In fact, you're probably safer to have such photos available to people who have such a fetish. This is a comment made by one of the commenters on this article on the nude photo of Brooke Shields at 10 years old. And, let me add, it had 3 thumbs up. Now I realize what I'm fighting here. I love you guys but I'm outta here. God Bless. Reply

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tman3220
Sep 30, 09 10:36 AM CDT

And let me add, the above comment was not even flagged. No offense guys, but I can in now way relate to your sense of morality.

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schmidtkoff
Sep 30, 09 10:45 AM CDT

and again tman i quote dylan's lyrics: "no, i do not feel that good when i see the heartbreaks you embrace if i was a master thief perhaps i'd rob them and tho i know you're dissatisfied with your position and your place dont you understand, its not my problem?

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Wraith
Sep 30, 09 10:48 AM CDT

Don't let the cyber door hit ya in the a$$ on your way out

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UrUndertaker
Sep 30, 09 10:58 AM CDT

@ tman, First you claim to be a Christian in a Christian school, then you say you have kid's next you claim to be a virgin but your most striking lie is your language and use of your colorful phrases. I personally do not buy into invisible magical sky spirits controling our lives but I do know what the so called Religions teach about such language and if that lesson failed on you so badly how the hell do you expect teaching girls to keep their knees together is going to work out? Go pick some cotton or attend a meeting with your pointy hat and dream up new lies, thus far you have broken 6 of your golden religious rules with your posting here just today

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Woofer58
Sep 30, 09 1:33 PM CDT

Most of the "abstinence only" material I've seen encourages kids to ignore the reality of what their bodies are saying to them. In essence it implies that ignorance is good. That if they have knowledge of sex then, naturally, they must experiment and if they do they will be damned by their peers. It is religious propaganda at it's very finest. It is also going to cause pregnancies and STD's to run rampant. In every study done on abstinence it does NOT work and causes more problems than it solves. Sorry to "go against" your beliefs but reality is what kids must learn to deal with, not false claims of "perfection through virginity". These youth deserve the best information they can get about their bodies, how they work, and the consequences of bad choices. The whole story, not just the goody-two-shoes version.

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schmidtkoff
Sep 30, 09 2:16 PM CDT

it is now.

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fancygapva
Sep 30, 09 11:16 AM CDT

@ tman Talk about beating a dead horse--It's amazing. I haven't seen so many flagged comments (and deservedly so for their insulting, profane and obscene language) --and coming from a self professed Christian. You sure are obsessed with child pornography, child molestation and other childish things. Maybe it's time you put them away. Reply

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schmidtkoff
Sep 30, 09 2:20 PM CDT

@fancy - ain't that the truth. you nailed it right on the head. christian? wow. twisted thought processes going on here. if this is religion i want no part of it.

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Snarfeh
Sep 30, 09 4:58 PM CDT

@schmidt - That ain't religion what tman the cretin is spouting. That's fundie freaky shit just like Osama Bin Laden's fundie freaky shit.

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amycreeper
Sep 30, 09 10:27 PM CDT

POLITICS ARE STUPID!! Instead of paying 50 million dollars on an "Abstinence Only" Program, why not 50 million dollars on a safe sex program? Teaching abstinence but not birth control is, not only irresponsible, but ignorant for our leaders... to think that teens don't have raging sex drives. ESPECIALLY with the way media portrays sex. I give a big flip of the bird to the white house!!! Reply

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