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Obama Signs Defense Bill Despite 'Reservations'

President questions provisions about treatment of suspected terrorists

By the Associated Press

Posted Dec 31, 2011 5:42 PM CST

(AP) – President Barack Obama signed a wide-ranging defense bill into law today despite having "serious reservations" about provisions that regulate the detention, interrogation and prosecution of suspected terrorists. The bill also applies penalties against Iran's central bank in an effort to hamper Tehran's ability to fund its nuclear enrichment program. The Obama administration is looking to soften the impact of those penalties because of concerns that they could lead to a spike in global oil prices or cause economic hardship on US allies that import petroleum from Iran.

In a statement accompanying his signature, the president chastised some lawmakers for what he contended was their attempts to use the bill to restrict the ability of counter-terrorism officials to protect the country. But the White House secured some last-minute changes, like the striking of a provision that would have eliminated executive branch authority to use civilian courts for trying terrorism cases against foreign nationals. Obama's signature caps months of wrangling over how to handle captured terrorist suspects without violating Americans' constitutional rights.

President Barack Obama leaves a news conference in the White House briefing room in Washington.
President Barack Obama leaves a news conference in the White House briefing room in Washington.   (AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster, File)
President Barack Obama speaks during a news conference in the South Court Auditorium at the White House complex, Thursday, Dec. 22, 2011, in Washington.
President Barack Obama speaks during a news conference in the South Court Auditorium at the White House complex, Thursday, Dec. 22, 2011, in Washington.   (AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster)
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SC23
Jan 2, 2012 2:37 PM CST
I wasnt real clear in my previous post so I wanted to clear it up a bit.. Throughout the detention portion of the NDAA there are continued references to a "covered person" under the act which then points to other parts which point to other parts. Its how you lose people's attention through subterfuge and confusion. At the very bottom of the rabbit hole of who is covered by the detention act, who would be considered to be a person which would be subject to the definition of terrorist and who would be applicable to military imprisonment is the following portion of the bill. This is where your rights as a US Citizen are stripped. Hilites are mine. --------------------------------------------------- 1021 b  2 ( A person who was a part of or substantially supported al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners, including any person who has committed a belligerent act or has directly supported such hostilities in aid of such enemy forces.) ----------------------------------------------------- By this language, you merely need to commit a "belligerent" act to be considered applicable under the definition of "covered persons" for the purpose of military detention. The talking heads may seem to think otherwise, but this is the fact of the matter and the direct language of the bill. It is undeniable.
Just_Dave
Jan 2, 2012 6:01 AM CST
Let's see here, what do we have left... Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. We have religion, but of course those who express it are demonized in our current culture...we have speech so long as it's responsible...press, LOL, yeah it's kind of there if Fox or MSNBC aren't taken seriously...assembly, no, you have to have a permit now...petition the government, yeah, if you're ready for the audit and anal probe. A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.[ sort of still here, lawyer needed if you want to carry in most places...no way we could militarily overthrow our government No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law. cool The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. gone last year thanks to SCOTUS ruling No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation. actually left us under Bush, codified and signed by Obama this week In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence. Team bush/obama again In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law. lawyers have made sure their bread and butter amendment has remained Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted. sort of...excessive is subjective and we're cool with torture now The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. .. long as you have money for a lawyer... The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. Hows that working out for ya? Keep voting your party and we'll get rid of the remaining rights in no time. You know, at some point even the partisans may take notice that neither party has our interest at heart.
Redhorn
Jan 1, 2012 8:51 PM CST
Did anyone bother to read the bill?  Here it is...Jump to Sec. 1021 and 1022 for the truth. Much Ado About Nothing, only this is just tragic and not funny.  I'm outraged that media outlets have been so irresponisble about the truth of this bill.  Hyping it up as the end of America and becoming a fascist state. READ THE BILL!  Stop taking other people's word for it, F'n LIARS! http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:H.R.1540:

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