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Operation Rescue: Tiller 'Reaped What He Sowed'

Founder says pro-life movement not guilty in doctor's death

By Jess Kilby| Posted Jun 1, 09 10:20 PM CDT|

(Newser) – The head of a national anti-abortion ground based in Wichita, Kansas said yesterday that his organization was not responsible for the death of Dr. George Tiller, Gawker reports. Operation Rescue founder Randall Terry immediately went on to say Tiller “was a mass-murderer and, horrifically, he reaped what he sowed," and then invited members of the National Press Club out for beer and wings.

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Randall Terry, founder of Operation Rescue, center right, holds a news conference outside the gates of Notre Dame during graduation ceremonies with Barack Obama in South Bend, Ind., May 17, 2009. (AP Photo/Eric Y. Exit)

Operation Rescue founder Randall Terry speaks during a news conference at the National Press Club in Washington, June 1, 2009, on the murder of Dr. George Tiller in Wichita, Kansas on Sunday. (AP Photo/Susan Walsh)

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anchower
Jun 1, 09 10:34 PM CDT

Abortion has never been considered murder by any American other than vicious loons like Terry. Want proof? No woman who's had, and no doctor who's performed an abortion has ever been prosecuted in this country for murder. Even in the bad old pre-Roe days. Reply

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doingtherightthing
Jun 2, 09 12:05 AM CDT

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warhead
Jun 2, 09 12:11 AM CDT

@rightthing - Vicious little sicko, aren't you? Your rock is calling, anxious for you to come home..

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lindamae
Jun 2, 09 1:14 AM CDT

Rightthing: Where is your outrage against Obama who voted in favor of late term abortion? The law also prevents a doctor who performs a late term abortion to try to save the life of the fetus if it is born viable and has a chance to live. Tiller is not the only one you should complain about.

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JaneMP
Jun 2, 09 7:36 AM CDT

lindamae--you are absolutely WRONG about the Illinois law. Go read it. It is already against the law for a doctor not to keep a viable fetus alive.

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PaleRider
Jun 2, 09 8:11 AM CDT

JaneMP You are absolutly wrong, The Bama voted to change that law and ultimately voted against a law so that Doctors would not have to save or provide any medical care what so ever to a baby BORN ALIVE that they just forcedly pulled from the birth canal of the mother, maybe tearing an arm or leg off of while trying to extract "It" and the "Thing" didn't have the decency, for the sake of the poor mothers future, to just give up and die. If you think that a abortionist is going to "Waste him time" trying to keep these "unwanted Things Alive" despite what the law states, you are mistaken. it Happens thousands of times each year, Go Read That. http://article.nationalreview.com/print/?q=NzRhZTgzNmRlZWE0MTA1YTM4NWMxN2UxMjA5YjBkZTE= http://www.citizenlink.org/content/A000007034.cfm

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godawgs
Jun 2, 09 9:05 AM CDT

that doesn't mean that some people don't consider it murder. It all depends on how you look at things. There are some people in the country that don't agree with abortion. I think that there are enough people in the coutnry who will adopt the baby that we shouldn't have to abort them. My aunt has adopted three kids, and she has helped pay for the delivery and all of hte bills for each of them. She is unable to have her own so that was how she could be a mother to them. This thought that abortion is hte only answer is very small, just like the thought that pro-life is the only choice. each case should be looked at on a case by case basis.

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MrsK
Jun 1, 09 10:44 PM CDT

Late term abortion is horrendous. But the left is to busy defending death row inmates to see that. Isn't life grand? Reply

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Nwambe
Jun 1, 09 11:13 PM CDT

So wait, you're saying that a man who has been wrongly imprisoned under a racist system like Abu Mumia-Jamal is a distraction from people not pumping out children into a society that neither cares for them nor gives them healthcare?

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dontlikenobody
Jun 1, 09 11:43 PM CDT

Late term abortion IS horrendous. By law, it is performed only when the life of the mother is at stake. The death of a young female human of child-bearing age is even more horrendous. Choices are never easy, but this one is a slam-dunk. The death of any human being is to be mourned (death row convicts and fetuses included); the life of a reasoning, self-determining, self-aware member of human society should be protected and preserved at all costs. Your version of morality is narrow, blind, and twisted by ignorance and anger. Yes, life is grand.

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PaleRider
Jun 2, 09 12:00 AM CDT

@ nwambe, Abu Mumia-Jamal is a scum bag murderer who killed someone in cold blood, found at the scene with the murder weapon still in his possession and 5 of his own acquaintances including his own brother testified that they witnessed him do it. Please do not try to rewrite history.

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lindamae
Jun 2, 09 1:09 AM CDT

Please do some research on Jamal - at sites which give you the truth rather than the Kool Aid version. If you really study the truth, you will be ashamed of yourself for supporting him.

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Nwambe
Jun 2, 09 6:12 AM CDT

Taken from damn Wikipedia, it's that obvious: Eighteen years after the slaying, Arnold Beverly claimed that, "wearing a green (camouflage) army jacket", he had run across the street and shot Daniel Faulkner as part of a contract killing because Faulkner was interfering with graft and payoff to corrupt police.[43] Private investigator George Newman claimed in 2001 that Chobert had recanted his testimony.[44] Cynthia White either died in 1992 or disappeared,[45] and it was subsequently alleged that she falsified her testimony.[46] Kenneth Pate, a stepbrother of Priscilla Durham who was imprisoned with Abu-Jamal on other charges, has since claimed that Durham admitted to not hearing the hospital confession.[47] The hospital doctors have claimed that Abu-Jamal was not capable of making such a dramatic bedside confession at that time.[8] In his version of events, detailed in a sworn statement almost 20 years afterwards, Abu-Jamal claimed that he was sitting in his cab across the street when he heard shouting, then saw a police vehicle, then heard the sound of gunshots. Upon seeing his brother appearing disoriented across the street, Abu-Jamal ran to him from the parking lot and was shot by a police officer. The statement fails to explain the gun that was found near Abu-Jamal at the crime scene nor the corresponding firearms shoulder holster he was found to be wearing at the time of his arrest.[48] William Cook did not testify or make any statement until 2001 when he claimed that he had not seen who had shot Faulkner.[49]

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PaleRider
Jun 2, 09 7:27 AM CDT

If you are going to use Wikipedia as a source, you might as well start your post off with, "The sources that I have provided are as opinionated as I am, provide very little in the way of factual support to the topic and were edited by non-English people in Malaysia just because they can." You can't make things up and try to pass it off as fact.

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JaneMP
Jun 2, 09 7:38 AM CDT

In Kansas, late-term abortion was acceptable ONLY if two other doctors said this would hurt the mother's health. ONLY then. Please go to http://www.aheartbreakingchoice.com to read about women who have had to make this choice. It really opened my eyes.

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dontlikenobody
Jun 2, 09 4:22 PM CDT

@PaleoRooter: "You can't make things up and try to pass it off as fact. " Why not? You do. Or did your God tell you about all those nasty Malaysians?

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MrsK
Jun 1, 09 10:46 PM CDT

Sharia law? No problemo!!! Judeo-Christian principles? Bigot!! Racist!! Loser!! Gimme back my country. Reply

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Fondue
Jun 1, 09 10:52 PM CDT

Your analogies don't work.

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Nwambe
Jun 1, 09 11:13 PM CDT

Uh... I think you may want to lower, or maybe increase the dosage of whatever it is that's causing quite such a reaction to the death of a man that helped people.

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dontlikenobody
Jun 1, 09 11:49 PM CDT

Sharia law? Bigoted. Judeo-Christian principles? Bigoted. You? Bigoted. Thank God this country was never yours to begin with. Came close though.

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JonmarkP
Jun 2, 09 2:10 AM CDT

Gee, I kind of thought it was OUR country. When did we cede it to you? You must be one of those anti-social...ists.

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Reader81628943
Jun 1, 09 11:23 PM CDT

Once again, it is clear Christians are bound to 100s of bible verses that say to "kill" nonbelievers (www.EvilBible.com). The only force that holds the crazy, murderous religious freaks in check is not their god or their religion that historically has killed over 50 million in the name of "god," but the secular laws of the United States. These secular laws were created by educated "deists" (Nature as god) who were well aware of the history of murderous religion in Europe and wanted none of it in the US. The US was founded on functional "Atheism" .... Dr. Tiller's murder is just one example of thousands that collectively show what the "religious" would do if they achieved political power. The bible is a proven fraud, a forgery, and a hoax, and it is time to stop denying why so many are "concluding" they are Atheists. This is the 21st Century...where logic, reason, facts, evidence and reality are important. Anyone who remains "religious" and believes in ghosts, sky fairies, and religious magic is admitting they are truly insane. Now if you don't agree with "late term abortions" which are legal in cases regarding medical reasons, i.e. the health of the mother, the fetus doesn't have a brain, the pregnancy is the result of rape or pregnancy in a minor, etc....then don't have one. For these religious freaks to impose their "beliefs" on others outside of the law...tells us exactly what kind of criminal intentions their religion justifies (www.EvilBible.com)....in the name of their imaginary god. Judy Weismonger PhD Reply

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PaleRider
Jun 2, 09 12:08 AM CDT

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kokuaguy
Jun 2, 09 3:58 AM CDT

Hasn't anyone ever read the actual language of Roe v Wade? It would seem that everyone assumes that Roe v Wade gave the public unlimited access to abortions. Not so. From the NYT the day Roe v Wade was decided (also the day LBJ died) they printed an article about what Roe v Wade entailed. The SCOTUS addressed the states: No state can prohibit an abortion during the first trimester of pregnancy. States can decide what they will during the second trimester (my interpretation- I find the wording fuzzy). States cannot PERMIT third trimester abortions except if the mothers life or health are endangered or if the fetus is not viable. This good doctor who was assasinated by zealots was in the business of saving lives - those of the mothers. If you want to go to the Bible, in the old testament one story went: If two men are fighting and one should accidently kill the others wife, who is pregnant, he shall be killed. But if she only looses the baby, he should pay a fine. While I do not agree with the morality here, given that it was an accident, the clear sense is that the living are more valuable than the unborn.

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Citrixguy
Jun 2, 09 5:36 AM CDT

Well said PaleRider

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PaleRider
Jun 2, 09 7:41 AM CDT

Koku, If you really honestly believe that they only preform late term abortions when the fetus is not viable or there is a danger to the mother you are purposefully choosing to remain ignorant. There is plenty of info on the subject right on the internet. While you are looking for it, do a search and pull up one of the many interviews that have been published with one of Tillers nurses, that testified against him, that he was paying another Doctor to corroborate his finding of "Fetus viability and Danger to the Mother" until that doctor found some morals and refused to co-operate with him. I think anyone who supports the procedure should watch a few video's of several of the procedures because I would be willing to bet 80% of the people who are for it have absolutely no idea what is actually done. Based on the fact that my previous comment was flagged by the liberals who don't want to deal with reality, I think it's pretty evident.

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Reader81628943
Jun 1, 09 11:31 PM CDT

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godawgs
Jun 2, 09 9:13 AM CDT

the us was not founded on functional atheism. We are a religious society whether you like to believe it or not. that is the problem the word GOD is in the constitution, our money, our most famous documents. that is not atheism or whatever it is you talk about. you want to talk about religious murder what about the 3,000 that were killed in NY due to someone's religious beliefs?

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lindamae
Jun 2, 09 1:07 AM CDT

Why don't commentators mention that Obama voted in favor of late term abortions and denied the right for a viable fetus to have medical help? I don't know why one would have a late term abortion. I can only say - as did Obama at Notre Dame - that I must respect the decisions made by the woman and the doctor who has her life foremost in his hands. There is so much hypocrisy here. I did not see one word about Obama's belief on the issue. There is much hue and cry against those who supported the women and the doctors who have made these decisions but nothing about the President. Reply

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Citrixguy
Jun 2, 09 5:37 AM CDT

How dare you speak evil against dear leader BHO...

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JaneMP
Jun 2, 09 7:40 AM CDT

lindamawe--if you don't understand the law, stop quoting it. Didn't happen this way. Another lie from the right.

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JonmarkP
Jun 2, 09 2:02 AM CDT

Hey Lindamae: I've challenged you before to come up with a source for the legislation you're quoting. You can't do it because it doesn't exist. You know it does not exist because you made it up. Again: Name the bill where Obama voted "in favor of late-term abortion" which "also prevents a doctor who performs a late term abortion to try to save life of the fetus if it is born viable and has a chance to live." I'm calling you a liar to your face. But hey - you name the bill and the date Obama signed it, and I will eat every word of this in a public apology. Now put up or shut up. Reply

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Doctor_Zaius
Jun 2, 09 6:05 AM CDT

She's not that smart to make it up. She heard it from someone else who made it up.

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oldgoat
Jun 2, 09 2:35 AM CDT

From what they have said less than 1% are late term abortions. Isn't life grand that that the right is busy with saving lives, but in a hurry to put people on death row? Of course their saving lives doesn't carry over to executions of someone they object to nor does it carry over to the idea of a church being a safe place for people to worship. Reply

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Doctor_Zaius
Jun 2, 09 6:06 AM CDT

I wonder what would happen if Mr. Terry started reaping what he has sown. Reply

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Reader64481089
Jun 2, 09 11:18 AM CDT

I have said it before and once more I shall repeat, Murder for murder serves no justice. They have made a new martyr for the cause of Late Term Abortions which are in many cases unwarranted and morally wrong by anyone of capable of conscious thought. I will not argue the "right to abortion but Late Term Abortions are a totally different animal and they can find no excuse for this barbaric act. Reply

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Reader81718480
Jun 2, 09 3:33 PM CDT

ironic?? i think not. fitting?? indeed. praise be to saint michael. the angel could not have picked a more suitable venue, in which, to carry out this justice!! dont murder the unborn. murder sluts and whores and abortion docs, instead. yay!! and, yes, you reap what u sow. Reply

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warhead
Jun 2, 09 5:39 PM CDT

Sick, twisted, slimy, morally and ethically unsuited to be a part of the human race. That's right, I'm talking about you, Reader 8 ... "justice," my ass.

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