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Ariz. Sheriff Defies Feds with Immigration Sweep

Arpaio continues arresting suspected illegal immigrants despite loss of powers

By Rob Quinn| Posted Oct 16, 09 9:00 PM CDT|

(Newser) – The "toughest sheriff in America" isn't going to let anything stop him enforcing the law—not even the law. Joe Arpaio launched crime and immigration sweeps in Phoenix yesterday in defiance of a federal order stripping his deputies of the right to make immigration arrests in the field. "it doesn't bother me, because we are going to do the same thing," Arpaio said. "I am the elected sheriff. I don't take orders from the federal government."

The sheriff's office is being investigated for alleged racial profiling and unconstitutional searches and seizures. Arpaio insists he can still arrest suspected illegal immigrants under a state smuggling law and a federal law, although his interpretation of federal law appears to have come from a document found by a staff member on an anti-immigration website, according to the Arizona Republic.

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Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio walks through the command center area at the sheriff's district 1 substation in Mesa, Ariz. (AP Photo/East Valley Tribune, Ralph Freso)

Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio, left, orders approximately 200 convicted illegal immigrants handcuffed together in Phoenix earlier this year. (AP Photo/Ross D. Franklin)

Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio gives a news conference in Mesa, Ariz. (AP Photo/East Valley Tribune, Ralph Freso)

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godawgs
Oct 16, 09 9:04 PM CDT

well this should end up well for the state of AZ. i can see my taxes going up now to pay for the settlements that are going to have to be paid out. Thanks Joe..... Reply

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Jayster999
Oct 16, 09 9:25 PM CDT

Sheriff Joe is right on this dawgs. The Feds suck. They have let in 20 millions mouths to feed and bodies to keep healthy that we don't have the money for. When amnesty comes, as Obama is planning, we will have to pay social security for these folks too. How are we gonna swing that? Don't you think that it's time that we started taking care of our future needs? We need to be employing Americans, not Mexicans. They are a liability that we can no longer afford.

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godawgs
Oct 16, 09 10:01 PM CDT

@jay I don't have a problem with Joe enforcing the immigration laws but he can't do what he is doing legally. So all he is doing is giving someone ammunition for a lawsuit. Since I live in AZ i am not to particularly excited about that right now since I am going to be paying for it and the people he catches aren't going to be deported anyway since it is going to be illegal.

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Reader64481089
Oct 16, 09 10:09 PM CDT

If volunteers were needed I would be one of the first in line to help round them up and help deport them but they also need to focus on the companies who hire them as well. What this guy is doing is giving them the means to stay in this country just as Godawg says by breaking the law. I don't care if you like it or not Federal Law is there for a reason and a local official doesn't need to break it to prove how tough he is. The man is out of line and providing ammunition to those who would harm the law any way they can.

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dontlikeyou
Oct 17, 09 3:16 PM CDT

This sheriff is awesome. Fuck the feds.

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rajanKazhmin
Oct 16, 09 9:13 PM CDT

That's some good race hate, Lou. Reply

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plstyle
Oct 16, 09 9:28 PM CDT

Hey, I don't agree with the guy, but i can kinda see where he gets the balls to do something like this... He must be thinking, "if the assholes from Wall Street and the banks can do what ever they want, why cant I?" Reply

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Cat-Lover
Oct 17, 09 5:52 AM CDT

And I'll bet he's a "Birther" too.

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Shannonals
Oct 17, 09 1:57 PM CDT

The problem is the Sheriff is harrassing national born Hispanics in his crusade against illegals

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thephat
Oct 16, 09 9:40 PM CDT

Our immigration policy for Mexicans is meant for them to be here illegally so that we can take full advantage. It is really ugly. Reply

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freethemall
Oct 16, 09 9:55 PM CDT

@Jayster999: It's not as if they are all freeloaders who don't pull their weight. They work harder, and for less, the their legal counterparts. Having said that, I don't think it is right that they should be here, suppressing wages. We need to go after those who are hiring them. Also we need to do whatever can be done to improve conditions in Mexico. It is not to our benefit to have third world country on our border. Reply

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riffran
Oct 16, 09 10:10 PM CDT

well put FTM....You fine the ever loving hell out of those that exploit those illegals, and they will eventually quit using them, and so reduce the lure.......and at the same time work on the red tape nightmare that is immigration policy....and as for the smugglers, and dope runners.....well they do have gopher hunts bwoooohahaha Reply

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DarkFrancis
Oct 16, 09 10:33 PM CDT

Y'know guys, there are some libertarian bits and pieces I have a bit of time for, and some people too...like Dr Paul. But you're a sovereign nation, with some federal laws, a federal government and a 'high' court that is the last port of call for legal matters. Some libertarians' views are downright archaic and tribal. Reply

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Dr.Y.Dino
Oct 16, 09 11:05 PM CDT

If the Fed's don't want the laws enforced, they should change them, not harass a Sheriff that does. Reply

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plstyle
Oct 17, 09 12:32 AM CDT

The Fed's had given this sheriff the authority to make these types of arrests. They simply changed their mind and took it away. Its seems this sheriff let it get to his head.

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Jayster999
Oct 17, 09 12:50 AM CDT

plstyle: You are wrong. Our rights are being stolen because of people who think like you. The federal government does not have the right to subjugate the people or the sovereign states. I hope that when the time comes, our military and peace officers will honor their oaths and resist.

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sidewinder
Oct 16, 09 11:13 PM CDT

How dare the feds tell a cop not to enforce the law? You know that order came directly from the White House...is obstructing justice a "high crime and misdemeanor?" Seems like something an real justice department would investigate...so, of course, this justice department wont. Reply

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Jayster999
Oct 16, 09 11:23 PM CDT

The Feds CANNOT tell sheriffs what to do: http://theredpillradio.com/sheriff-mack-on-state-sovereignty.html Reply

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Shannonals
Oct 17, 09 1:59 PM CDT

Evidently you didn't watch Beck when he interviewed the Sheriff last week when Beck asked him to explain what state law he would use to continue his hutn of iilegals and couldn't properly explain it...Beck was laughing at the man

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Galileo
Oct 16, 09 11:30 PM CDT

I don't understand how people still believe the child-like idea that illegal immigrants just come in and take from us and us poor innocent Americans get screwed. Jayster, for example, asserts that illegals simultaneously take all our jobs but also have to feed by us. Wow that makes great sense Jayster, I can tell you've truly thought about your statement. They have all the jobs, we don't, but we pay to feed them. Great job! The reality is that most illegals come into the country, work their ass off for next nothing doing jobs most Americans DO NOT WANT or WILL NOT DO, manage to get by, and then after all of it get scapegoated by ignorant right wingers as the cause of all our problems. Grow up and use your brain. Reply

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Jayster999
Oct 16, 09 11:57 PM CDT

It amuses me that people like you deign to take on the names of great thinkers as monikers, whereas your own ideas are the feeble tripe of institution-derived liberal pablum. Mexican (and other) illegals come here to compete for the blue collar jobs that still exist here after our manufacturing jobs and other "outsourceable" jobs have been tossed out the window. There are country hospitals that have closed due to overload by illegals. A grossly disproportionate percentage of our prison populations are made up of illegals. They overtax our schools, our subsidized housing and our food stamp programs. They fraudulently create bogus "documents" and engage in identity theft. And they do compete for our jobs. There was a factory that was recently raided by the Feds. Guess what? Over 200 AMERICANS showed up to apply for the 30-odd jobs which had been vacated. You are wrong on every point. Give it up. It is time to say "NO MAS" to illegals.

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riffran
Oct 17, 09 12:10 AM CDT

tell ya what..copernicus....do the math on how many illegals utilze the ER like a free clinic, for non emergent medical care, such as runny noses a light fever or other such minimal issues....give ficticious addresses, and phone numbers, ect.....and never pay a fricken dime, and as for the JOBS that we wont do....take off the whine colored glasses...we wont do those jobs for the pittance being offered BUT desperate illegals living 10 to 15 in a two bedroom house will damn sure do.....

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plstyle
Oct 17, 09 12:43 AM CDT

Riffran- I'd love to do the math, so tell me, how many illegals do the things you say are done? First off i doubt you can, and secondly, I doubt you, Jayster666 or any other like minded individuals realizes that our system has become dependent on these illegals, and id bet you that we need them more then they need us simply because we are accustomed to a certain way of living. at a most basic level I certainly don't think anybody would be happy paying $10 for an orange.

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riffran
Oct 17, 09 3:18 AM CDT

well pl...I work the ER in south Texas, lets just say I AM very familiar...My wife had to go to the ER in Brownsville, for strep, and they had trouble dealing with the fact that she had insurance and wanted to pay the copay in cash....THEY couldn't find the right form in fricken ENGLISH...for over an hour...We average about 25 to 30% that fit that catagory..of "private pay"..no address in this country, and no social ...but they can run up several hundred thousand in bills daily statewide..because if you do miss something, they can sure spell lawsuit even though they can't speak english ...when it suits them

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EB1
Oct 17, 09 12:17 AM CDT

Jayster, we will be able to afford it by rasing taxes on the disgustingly rich, that's how. Reply

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Jayster999
Oct 17, 09 12:32 AM CDT

That'll be the day. They are the people who OWN the politicians. It always comes down to the middle/working class to foot the bill, and we're tapped out and tired. Any other bright ideas?

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Middleman
Oct 17, 09 1:09 AM CDT

How much more in taxes should the rich pay? The top tier of money makers in this country pays 35% in tax whereas the lowest tier pays 10%. So for perspective, if you make 1 million next year you'll pay 350k in taxes, whereas if I make 10k next year, I'll pay 1k. Therefore you will be paying 350 times as much in taxes as I am. I think most reasonable people would say the "disgustingly rich" are pulling thier fair share of the weight... (reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_tax_in_the_United_States)

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Jayster999
Oct 17, 09 1:27 AM CDT

Middle: Actually millions of people receive "earned income credit", and instead of paying ANYTHING at all, they actually get a subsidy check from the U.S. treasury. MILLIONS of them.

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JoeQ
Oct 17, 09 1:15 AM CDT

Theres a lot of hate groups in Arizona, but its a dry hate. Reply

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riffran
Oct 17, 09 3:19 AM CDT

OK...I don't care who ya are...THATS FUNNY....lmao...gotta thumbs up that one..:)

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riffran
Oct 17, 09 3:27 AM CDT

The more than $4.7 billion in costs incurred by Texas taxpayers annually result from outlays in the following areas: Education. Based on estimates of the illegal immigrant population in Texas and documented costs of K-12 schooling, Texans spend more than $4 billion annually on education for illegal immigrant children and for their U.S.-born siblings. About 11.9 percent of the K-12 public school students in Texas are children of illegal aliens. Health Care. Taxpayer-funded medical outlays for health care provided to the state’s illegal alien population amount to about $520 million a year. Incarceration. The uncompensated cost of incarcerating illegal aliens in Texas’s state and county prisons amounts to about $150 million a year (not including local jail detention costs or related law enforcement and judicial expenditures or the monetary costs of the crimes that led to their incarceration). The fiscal costs of illegal immigration do not end with these three major cost areas. The total costs of illegal immigration to the state’s taxpayers would be considerably higher if other cost areas such as special English instruction, welfare programs used by the U.S.-born children of illegal aliens, or welfare benefits for American workers displaced by illegal alien workers were also calculated. released by a study on the economic impact of illegal aliens, tabulated from local state and federal sources Reply

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Cat-Lover
Oct 17, 09 5:41 AM CDT

So, maybe it would be best if Gov. Perry did have Texas secede from the United States. Then even Americans would be illegal and Texans wouldn't have to pay for anyone.

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riffran
Oct 17, 09 6:27 AM CDT

sure starting with hmmmmmm here kitty kitty...rofl

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Cat-Lover
Oct 17, 09 5:37 AM CDT

There is nothing worse than a law enforcement officer violating the law. He must be arrested and confined away from human society -- as must all these loonies who have decided that our president is not theirs. Reply

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Thinker
Oct 17, 09 7:13 AM CDT

When a law enforcement officer breaks the law, he becomes a criminal and het must be stopped. Federal rights usurp state rights FOR private individuals, not for state actors (law enforcement). States can give private individuals more rights than the government, but states cannot take away rights given by the Feds. States cannot decide that illegal immigrants or anyone else has no rights if the federal government decides otherwise. That concept is what made slavery illegal even though states supported it, and that is what keeps the tyrants like the ignorant criminal sheriff in check. Watch and see.

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crazyvet
Oct 17, 09 6:12 AM CDT

Good grief.....is everyone crazy? These are illegal immigrants! We should have the right to deport them! Reply

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SBS
Oct 18, 09 8:46 AM CDT

cv, you said it all.

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riffran
Oct 17, 09 6:40 AM CDT

Sorry kittikins I forgot this one as well...cheers :) In hosting America's largest population of illegal immigrants, California bears a huge cost to provide basic human services for this fast growing, low-income segment of its population. A new study from the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) examines the costs of education, health care and incarceration of illegal aliens, and concludes that the costs to Californians is $10.5 billion per year. BTW...(I actually do like cats...had a calico named cali...:( gone on to kitty heaven :(...) Reply

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Thinker
Oct 17, 09 7:29 AM CDT

Nice study you chose there, riffran. "Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) [is] the most important organization fueling the backlash against immigration. Founded by Tanton in 1979, FAIR has long been marked by anti-Latino and anti-Catholic attitudes. It has mixed this bigotry with a fondness for eugenics, the idea of breeding better humans discredited by its Nazi associations. It has accepted $1.2 million from an infamous, racist eugenics foundation. It has employed officials in key positions who are also members of white supremacist groups." [splcenter.org]

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Thinker
Oct 17, 09 7:40 AM CDT

In fact, Garrett Hardin, one of FAIR's longtime leaders and a close personal friend of FAIR's founder, is quoted as saying in a 1992 interview with Omni magazine, that he supported abortion — "A fetus is of so little value, there's no point worrying about it" — as "effective population control." He argued the Third World is filled with "the next generation of breeders" who need to be stopped. He discouraged aid to starving Africans because that would only "encourage population growth." Hardin wasn't alone. A current FAIR advisory board member, three-time Democratic governor of Colorado Richard Lamm, sounded a similar theme in 1984, while still governor, saying "terminally ill people have a duty to die and get out of the way." [splcenter.org] riffran, you really should research your sources before using them ... unless, of course, you did(?) which, in that case, I would have no further response to you.

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Sniffer
Oct 17, 09 12:09 PM CDT

You are right - I was surprised that at the beginning of the end for the State of California's budget - the Governor's budget director actually had the balls to come out & say that approximately 69% of ALL SOCIAL SERVICES in CALIFORNIA were being used & consumed by - get this insensitive word - ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS! You see in California it's almost Illegal to say ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT because it's a "Hurtful Word" or "Insensitive" - after all they are just "Undocumeted Workers". I live in California & this State is going downhill fast partly because we have the San Francisco mentality invading every level of discussion - let' not offend others or be too insensitive. Joe Arpaio is at lesast doing his job - unlike the Federal Government.

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Reader83542248
Oct 17, 09 6:55 AM CDT

Sherrif Joe, THANK YOU for doing was is honest, upright, & defending our Republic ! Too bad you don't have more peers !!! Reply

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Thinker
Oct 17, 09 7:23 AM CDT

Why is it considered "honest" and "upright" when conservative half-wits break the law, but "treasonous" when anyone else (anti-conservative) does it?

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RockyPneumonia
Oct 17, 09 7:21 AM CDT

The Internet document on which the sheriff based his claim says that, "erratic behavior; dress or speech indicating foreign citizenship," can be construed as probable cause. If we deported every erratic person who had a substandard command of English, we'd be getting rid of a lot of conservatives. Reply

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Thinker
Oct 17, 09 7:24 AM CDT

LOL!

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SemperFI
Oct 17, 09 7:45 AM CDT

Theres more to just Mexicans flowing across the border. I'm tired of Mexico being the 51st state. But,I like to solve this problem. Deport them all. For everyone deported. Allow one from the long list of people who have applied to come to this Country legally. You cant do this in any other Country in the world . Why are we such Bastards when we enforce our laws? Reply

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r7ber
Oct 17, 09 8:04 AM CDT

It's not about race it is about coming into our country illegaly and then demanding what we Americans have fought for and pay for. They want us to take care of them. Look at California and their problems. It costs them nearly a billion dollars a year in medical, education services and courts for the criminal element. That means more taxes out of their pay checks. If they aren't legal they should be rounded up and sent home. Reply

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jeremiah1
Oct 17, 09 8:42 AM CDT

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jeremiah1
Oct 17, 09 8:50 AM CDT

Sometimes I just can't believe the ignorance. One, racism cannot be defined as preventing illegal aliens, no matter what country they come from, from unlawful residence in the US, especially when they commit crimes against our citizens. Two, to contradict what the press is reporting, the astute Sheriff has the constitutional and legal authority to do exactly what he is doing as it pertains to Arizona law. Fact is, the "Sheriff", in his or her town, is the most powerful law official in the land, and can send the Feds packing anytime they see fit, and the Feds know it; it's not likely they will risk a constitutional crisis to overstep their authority, not to mention losing another court battle on the matter before SCOTUS as we have seen in the recent past. Don't believe it; check the facts. Of course, the current White House administration hasn't been short on stupidity; just get a load of Joe Biden. I guess we'll just have to see what happens. Reply

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metalworldorder
Oct 17, 09 10:06 AM CDT

I'm guessing you've never heard of federalism? Fed trumps state. The house always wins. If the fed says he can't do it, then he can't. The US government has the right to make all laws necessary and proper--point is, he's not god because he's a sheriff. Go read the constitution and the supremacy clause. The constitution, and the laws that stem from it are the supreme law of the land. No state law can contradict it.

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Jayster999
Oct 17, 09 12:44 PM CDT

metal: You sound like someone who's itching for the yoke of tyranny.

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3golds3
Oct 17, 09 11:07 AM CDT

Way to go Joe. Settlements to whom? Illegal aliens? Give us a break. Reply

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doingtherightthing
Oct 17, 09 12:21 PM CDT

I love this guy Joe......protecting the borders against druggies and slackers that want to cross. A little known fact: He makes his prisoners work for worthy causes. Example: He saves the state millions by making the prisoners work the animal shelters. Yep, the pink boys in the pink jump suits due the remedial work.....pooper scoopers, walking the dogs and training the dogs. Just one example of Joe doing his job...........Go Joe......... Reply

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Shannonals
Oct 17, 09 2:14 PM CDT

I find it awkward that so many people are cheering this man on without looking at his whole record, not just the portions that they approve of. The man has had numerous botched investigations, his deputies were proven to have fondled prostitutes during a sting operation which resulted in 60/70 charges to be dropped, and blocked access to law enforcement databases. I could go on and on, but the point is regardless of how well certain people think this man is doing, he has twice as many negative points. Don't be a hypocrite because you only praise him for the points you like while shutting a blind eye to his bad points. Reply

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metalworldorder
Oct 17, 09 3:07 PM CDT

Jayster: it sounds like I'm quoting the constitution. If that's tyrannical to you, then you have a very warped view of the constitution. And on what Shannon said, amen. The man diverts much needed funds in the state of Arizona so he can play illegal immigrant hunter. Just read his Wikipedia page and you'll see some of the controversies. Of course I'm sure people will say the man speaks truth to power or some shit like that, but case in point: they're wrong. Reply

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Jayster999
Oct 17, 09 4:05 PM CDT

metal: WRONG. Arpaio doesn't need permission to uphold the law. If the INS wants to terminate the agreement between them, that's fine, but they can't stop him from doing his duty. Just watch. You'll see.

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RockyPneumonia
Oct 17, 09 7:21 PM CDT

Yes, Jayster, he does, because he doesn't have jurisdiction in immigration matters, and contrary to what you might believe, the "law" is not "whatever Right-Wing Wackos want it to be."

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Jayster999
Oct 17, 09 7:43 PM CDT

There are state laws against illegal immigration and he can enforce those. Also, with or without INS blessing, he can enforce the law of the land.

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godawgs
Oct 17, 09 8:15 PM CDT

since i started this thread I will put out the fact that has not been mentioned and it is what pisses me off about the whole thing. Joe can still deport people that he legally arrests for other crimes. He just can't go out and do his illegal immigration raids. So Joe can still enforce the laws but he can't go looking for illegal people. he is just trying to keep himself in teh news. Look I live in AZ and we hear about Joe more then you guys, he is an attention whore, but you don't want get arrested in Maricopa county.

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Jayster999
Oct 17, 09 9:14 PM CDT

dawgs: Correct. Arpaio hasn't been neutered, he just has to conduct arrests and detainment outside of "raids", during the normal course of procedure.

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RockyPneumonia
Oct 17, 09 9:37 PM CDT

The "Internet document" says that there are state laws against illegal immigration, but it appears to be in error. You're just going to have to deal, Jayster, with the indescribable horror of not being able to persecute dark-skinned people.

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jeremiah1
Oct 18, 09 12:28 AM CDT

metalworldorder, I'm guessing you've never heard of State Rights. Reply

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RockyPneumonia
Oct 18, 09 5:06 AM CDT

This isn't the first time that "states' rights" has been used as a euphemism for racism. I guess you've never read that about 140 years ago, it was rather definitively established that federal law has supremacy over states' rights.

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jeremiah1
Oct 18, 09 12:29 AM CDT

State's Rights Reply

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Arpaio continues arresting suspected illegal immigrants despite loss of powers

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