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ANALYSIS

Fewer Americans Believe in Global Warming

Those seeing evidence of it dropped from 71%-57% in 18 months

By W. McCahill| Posted Oct 22, 09 8:09 PM CDT|

(Newser) – The percentage of Americans who think there’s serious evidence of global warming has dropped precipitously in the past 18 months—from 71% to 57%, the Pew Research Center finds. Numbers were down across the political spectrum—Democrat, independent, Republican—but the drop was most pronounced among independents, to 53% from 75%. And just 35% now say climate change is a serious problem, down from 41% in April 2008.

“The public is just not as focused on global warming and environmental [issues] as they have been in the past,” a Pew executive tells the Guardian, speculating that the economic crisis and debate over health reform have sapped attention. Chris Good, in the Atlantic, thinks the issue has become more politicized this year as a cap-and-trade bill passed the House, but doubts that accounts for such a huge drop.

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A collapsing glacier. (Wikimedia Commons)

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I would say a big part of this problem is this campaign to mislead Americans about climate science. This is a very sophisticated group of people who know how to create doubt and confusion. - James Hoggan, author of
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freethemall
Oct 22, 09 8:13 PM CDT

Unbelievable! Reply

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jbcorny
Oct 23, 09 8:09 AM CDT

if it's from pew, then yes...it's unbelievable.

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Galileo
Oct 22, 09 8:22 PM CDT

I'll never understand how people make up their minds on scientific issues based on politics. If you aren't convinced after looking at research, fine. But how does it make any sense to decide you don't believe global warming exists just because of the taxes that might result? Or because a Democrat made a popular movie about it? Science isn't partisan. It's about data. Reply

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Thinker
Oct 22, 09 10:01 PM CDT

Seriously! I mean, jeeze, what's NOT to believe in? The ice caps are melting, climates are changing dramatically, oceans are rising ... it's those damn religious nuts, isn't it? They only believe in things they CANNOT see!

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divetrader
Oct 22, 09 10:04 PM CDT

HAHAHAHAHA! What a great point!

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NewserScooter
Oct 22, 09 11:04 PM CDT

Ahh thats the rub. The data is not fitting the models, which are being changed yet again. Thinker, the Glaciers have been melting for about 10,000 years, Ocean levels have not risen, despite the model predictions. And BTW many glaciers are advancing. Been to a few myself. I am a scientist, and despite your name, i don't think Galileo Galilee would have bought the conclusions from the data that politicians are trying to foist on the public. They have way too much of a conflict of interest to be taken seriously.

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ultramarine13
Oct 22, 09 11:32 PM CDT

Some glaciers are advancing, Newser, which is one reason "global warming" is something of a misnomer. "Climate change" is far more accurate. Since you claim to be a scientist, you should get it. As for the change in sea level rise, you are quite wrong. The first two reference links on the Wikipedia entry for "Current sea level rise" took me to scientific articles in the journals Surveys in Geophysics and Geophysical Research Letters respectively. The first article claims a "1.8 mm/yr ± 0.1 [increase] for global sea level rise over the last 100+ years [since 1880]", while the second article claims "a 20th century rate of sea-level rise of 1.7 ± 0.3 mm yr-1 and a significant acceleration of sea-level rise of 0.013 ± 0.006 mm yr^2", with a total increase of approximately 180 cm. That is fact. So why is a scientist like yourself ignoring facts?

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BoZo
Oct 23, 09 9:10 AM CDT

Thank you scooter! I feel like such an outcast when I tell people that. There is more than one scientific point of view on global warming. Everyone seems to have jumped on Gores bandwagon without doing any research for themselves.

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johntitor
Oct 23, 09 2:10 PM CDT

Sorry I refuse to side with the club of Rome on this one. Im with Scooter. That being said our first priority still should be conservation and environmental consciousness. There are too many fabrications and half truths on both sides. The Oregon accord is legitimate. Im all for greener society but it needs to come from social revolution otherwise it will never be fully realized and will only be propped up by law or policy. At some point in time all records point to a huge flood in earths history. (do you really think the WHOLE earth flooded) Seeing something happen doesn't mean your perceptions are necessarily correct thinker.

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thudson
Oct 27, 09 9:56 AM CDT

@ NewserScooter - what kind of scientist are you? please be specific.

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Blackbird
Oct 22, 09 8:23 PM CDT

They really got me to believe the Y2K hoax. Are humans really to blame for climate change? Or is this just earths natural cycle? Who can we believe... Reply

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Jayster999
Oct 22, 09 8:34 PM CDT

Well, you CAN'T believe Gore, he's in it for the money. So are many scientist who get their funding from the government who are PUSHING this bunk.

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doingtherightthing
Oct 22, 09 8:41 PM CDT

Science can't even agree on climate change. This same science, 30 years ago said; were heading into a "ice age". Now politics at its worst. Al Gore is leading the charge, because for him its about money not climate change. He's going to line his pockets with green (money that is). So, we have buffoons that run around screaming global warming don't use your electricity, don't use your car or turn on your gas it causes global warming. This is the story of chicken little and Al is chicken little!

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Galileo
Oct 22, 09 9:03 PM CDT

Yes. Thousands of scientists, all in it for the money. And holding large-scale, secret conference calls so that they can all plan to come up with the same fake data. Yes everything is going perfectly according to plan.

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Doctor_Zaius
Oct 22, 09 9:23 PM CDT

Y2K wasn't a hoax. It was a real problem that was solved prior to the event. The reason nothing bad happened is because people made a stink prior to the deadline.

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Thinker
Oct 22, 09 10:05 PM CDT

Actually, Doctor-Zaius, you are not quite accurate on this one. There were serious issues with our military computers as a direct result of Y2K but no one said anything until much later.

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freethemall
Oct 22, 09 10:13 PM CDT

Blackbird, if you are so uninformed as to believe Y2K was merely a Hoax, it is not surprising that you believe global warming is also a hoax. Y2K was a genuine potential problem. Adequate steps were taken to ameliorate this potential problem. The threat of global warming to the planet is more complicated and consequential to handle, but it is, hands down, more important that the threat is acknowledged, and that adequate steps are taken to ameliorate this very real threat.

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Jayster999
Oct 22, 09 8:29 PM CDT

Yes. Global warming is a hoax designed to get us to willingly surrender our sovereignty and transfer a portion of our already fading wealth to "undeveloped" nations. Before Gore got on his soapbox, he had already started a company to trade in "carbon credits." The real "green thinking" of Gore and his cronies has to do with jacking up OUR energy costs, taxing our emissions and handing the money over to others and dragging us further into captivity. It it vital that Obama DOES NOT sign the upcoming treaty in December. Video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFJKBgDu1LY Reply

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Jayster999
Oct 22, 09 8:32 PM CDT

MANY scientist do not buy the global warming dogma: http://www.oism.org/pproject/

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Doctor_Zaius
Oct 22, 09 9:29 PM CDT

Your little petition has been debunked a thousand ways from Sunday. It's an industry funded piece of propaganda. http://debunking.pbworks.com/Oregon-Petition

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Jayster999
Oct 22, 09 9:53 PM CDT

Gore's the one who's been debunked--as a a rip-off extraordinaire. Do some homework Doc, stop being a puppet.

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Thinker
Oct 22, 09 10:10 PM CDT

Jayster, I really actually respect you. You are like the chihuahua in the middle of a bunch of pitbulls (IQ-wise), yapping in response to their throat-ripping barks like there's no tomorrow while the dobermans and German shepherds tear each other apart.

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Doctor_Zaius
Oct 22, 09 10:13 PM CDT

That is so Ironic coming from you Jay. I have done my homework. When I find that the only scientists who claim global climate change isn't happening are all tied to the fossil fuel industry well it doesn't take a genius to figure out what's happening. Your condescending tone is truly rich. You are so afraid of being fooled that you allow yourself to be fooled. I will not say what that makes you but I used a form of the word twice in my previous sentence.

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ultramarine13
Oct 22, 09 11:52 PM CDT

Here's some homework for you, Jayster: The NAS issued an unusually blunt formal response to the petition drive. "The NAS Council would like to make it clear that this petition has nothing to do with the National Academy of Sciences and that the manuscript was not published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences or in any other peer-reviewed journal," it stated in a news release. "The petition does not reflect the conclusions of expert reports of the Academy." In fact, it pointed out, its own prior published study had shown that "even given the considerable uncertainties in our knowledge of the relevant phenomena, greenhouse warming poses a potential threat sufficient to merit prompt responses. Investment in mitigation measures acts as insurance protection against the great uncertainties and the possibility of dramatic surprises." (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Oregon_Institute_of_Science_and_Medicine) "1998: Petition Calling on US to Reject Kyoto Protocol Employs Misleading Tactics Frederick Seitz, a former tobacco company scientist and former National Academy of Sciences president, writes and circulates a letter asking scientists to sign a petition calling upon the US government to reject the Kyoto Protocol. The petition was authored by an obscure group by the name of “Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine.” [SEITZ, 1998] Seitz includes in his letter a report arguing that carbon dioxide emissions do not pose a threat to the global climate. The report—which is not peer reviewed—is formatted to look like an article from the esteemed Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS). The organizers of the petition will claim that some 17,000 scientists signed the petition. But it is subsequently discovered that few credentialed climate scientists added their signature to the list. Moreover, the petition contains the names of several fictional characters. The magazine Scientific American analyzes a random sampling of the signers and concludes that only about one percent of the petition signatories claiming to have a Ph.D. in a climate-related field actually do. And in a highly unusual move, the National Academy of Sciences issues a statement disavowing Seitz’s petition and disassociating the academy from the PNAS-formatted paper." (http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=oregon_institute_of_science_and_medicine_1) Catch that Jay? "...only about one percent of the petition signatories claiming to have a Ph.D. in a climate-related field actually do." I'd call that fraud. And an excellent reason to not believe anything the OISM says.

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ultramarine13
Oct 22, 09 11:54 PM CDT

Damn it. Okay, this lack of line spacing is starting to piss me off. Anyone know how I can add some spaces here to actually make this readable?

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freethemall
Oct 23, 09 1:03 AM CDT

@ultramarine13: I found your post to be very readable, very concise, and quite informative. Thank you for it! If anything could cause a human caused climate change denier to think twice, your post would do it. They would also know the truth if they actually read Al Gore's book, or watched his movie. But they haven't. Oh, the may have glanced through his book for the purpose of debunking it, and they may have seen snippets of his documentary, but they've not considered the point of view he espouses with an open mind. Otherwise they would know the truth. But that would be inconvenient for them, wouldn't it?

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thudson
Oct 27, 09 10:00 AM CDT

@ jayster999 - if you think america's wealth is fading - please feel free to leave. i clearly have more faith in this country than do you.

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Circusdog
Oct 22, 09 8:43 PM CDT

7 billion of us...600 million cars..factories belching out waste. Rainforest disappearing..Fresh water on top of Sea Water. Global climate is not strictly about temperature climbing...there are hundreds of other factors. If it was hotter or colder last summer and you use this to justify your argument...well you're an idiot. Reply

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Jayster999
Oct 22, 09 9:05 PM CDT

Maybe you are for buying it hook line and sinker and ignoring some disturbing facts. does it not bother you even a bit that Gore set himself up to profit in the BILLIONS before become a prophet of doom? Liberals rail against capitalist robber barons and Gore is a doozy. When are you going to understand that an oligarchy is consolidating power than is entirely above party lines?

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Forderon
Oct 22, 09 9:07 PM CDT

Thank you. There are so many dumb people who say "if there's global warming going on, why is it so cold then?" Because it's more of a Global Weirding issue. Never has this planet seen this many people, using this many resources, polluting this much, etc. Not even close. The Industrial Revolution and the subsequent globalization single-handedly changed the natural cycle of planetary activity. Anyone who doesn't understand this simple concept is delusional.

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Forderon
Oct 22, 09 9:10 PM CDT

I meant to agree with Circusdog, not this clown above me who popped in with his off-topic bullshit.

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Monjubikahn
Oct 22, 09 9:05 PM CDT

Personally I believe in the cosmic microwave theory. The ozone layer is depleting and we are cooking. Pollution may add to global dimming but the expected effect would be that of a Nuclear winter. Reply

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RockyPneumonia
Oct 22, 09 9:08 PM CDT

It always amuses and amazes me that so many conservatives are not only ignorant, but proud of it. Reply

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NewserScooter
Oct 22, 09 11:08 PM CDT

Same for so many Dems. Just read some here!

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Joans
Oct 22, 09 9:45 PM CDT

It's all politics..Al Gore was going for a grant when he invented global warming and the whole world went OMG..We're all gonna die!!!!!!and now we're like..waiiit a minute..this shi# isn't happening..and it's actually getting colder..he's all f'ed up..we'll just believe what we can see and screw Al Gore. Reply

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Jayster999
Oct 22, 09 9:48 PM CDT

Au contraire, its Gore who's getting ready to screw us. But you are right that we've been had. Problem is, liberals are too vain to realize it and admit it.

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Galileo
Oct 22, 09 10:07 PM CDT

Yes Joans. Well thought out. Gore invented global warming and thousands of scientists from around the world joined in on the conspiracy. Ultimate goal: They (scientists) continue to receive funding for researching something they made up. Their labs/organizations will be rich! And all the time in the world to continue researching a hoax they created! What more could any scientist want!

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Thinker
Oct 22, 09 10:12 PM CDT

Galileo, you are such a card. I actually love you.

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Galileo
Oct 22, 09 10:57 PM CDT

Finally! What's your address and do you live alone? Jokes :)

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freethemall
Oct 25, 09 5:58 PM CDT

Joans, you've not read Al Gore's book, nor viewed his documentary, have you? Of course you wouldn't give any credence to such liberal misinformation, would you? Too bad! Too for you and too bad for all the rest of us, and too bad for the planet, that you, and so many others have allowed yourselves to be duped by those who have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo.

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carpenocturne
Oct 22, 09 9:53 PM CDT

I will say scientists are in agreement that our earth is currently in a period of global cooling, however those who argue global warming say its a normal cycle. ironically not unlike periods of global warming? my dad is a renown international clean air expert, and even he has his doubts about global warming and the statistics noted in gore's movie. Reply

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divetrader
Oct 22, 09 10:03 PM CDT

Circusdog mad a good point up above. There are a ton of environmental as well as ecological issues that we are facing worldwide. Politics certainly plays a part in how people perceive it. There are a lot of stupid politicians interested in lining their pockets with special interests money. They can deny reality and pretend the planet will correct itself without our help. In a way, they are correct. Unfortunately, that most likely means future generations will have a less than desirable environment to live on. Sadly, we are not the only creatures that will face the consequences of not reigning in polluters of all sorts. Reply

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paul123
Oct 22, 09 10:25 PM CDT

Maybe this is why: This headline may come as a bit of a surprise, so too might that fact that the warmest year recorded globally was not in 2008 or 2007, but in 1998. But it is true. For the last 11 years we have not observed any increase in global temperatures. And our climate models did not forecast it, even though man-made carbon dioxide, the gas thought to be responsible for warming our planet, has continued to rise. So what on Earth is going on? Climate change sceptics, who passionately and consistently argue that man's influence on our climate is overstated, say they saw it coming. They argue that there are natural cycles, over which we have no control, that dictate how warm the planet is. But what is the evidence for this? During the last few decades of the 20th Century, our planet did warm quickly. Sceptics argue that the warming we observed was down to the energy from the Sun increasing. After all 98% of the Earth's warmth comes from the Sun. But research conducted two years ago, and published by the Royal Society, seemed to rule out solar influences. The scientists' main approach was simple: to look at solar output and cosmic ray intensity over the last 30-40 years, and compare those trends with the graph for global average surface temperature. And the results were clear. "Warming in the last 20 to 40 years can't have been caused by solar activity," said Dr Piers Forster from Leeds University, a leading contributor to this year's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). But one solar scientist Piers Corbyn from Weatheraction, a company specialising in long range weather forecasting, disagrees. He claims that solar charged particles impact us far more than is currently accepted, so much so he says that they are almost entirely responsible for what happens to global temperatures. He is so excited by what he has discovered that he plans to tell the international scientific community at a conference in London at the end of the month. If proved correct, this could revolutionise the whole subject. http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/mpapps/pagetools/print/news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8299079.stm?ad=1 Reply

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NewserScooter
Oct 22, 09 11:12 PM CDT

Wow , a rational person here. Are you lost? The whole Cap and trade issue is a rouse. Even if there is man made global warming from Co2 and that is a real question, there is no supportive data, and in fact some contrary data to say that this will have any effect. How about we try to find out what is going on before we fabricate a fix.

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Galileo
Oct 23, 09 12:08 AM CDT

Science follows the evidence. If strong evidence comes to light that the human contribution is overstated, great, the majority opinion will change. Here I googled and found this article within seconds: http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2004-11/uow-std112904.php

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Galileo
Oct 23, 09 12:12 AM CDT

And this: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002439279_warm13.html

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zackmasson
Oct 22, 09 10:39 PM CDT

In other news 75% of Americans are mentally deficient. O and 95% of statistics are made up on the spot. But mine a clearly real. :/ Reply

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JoeQ
Oct 22, 09 11:55 PM CDT

Such alarmism. Small sample. Who cares? I'm still looking forward to gondola rides around Miami. Reply

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BoZo
Oct 23, 09 7:18 PM CDT

I'm looking forward to the Miami weather in Michigan.

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riffran
Oct 23, 09 1:55 AM CDT

that why the oceans are cooling...because they are warming..it's all so clear to me now Reply

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Circusdog
Oct 23, 09 8:03 AM CDT

What happens as a result of billions of tons of ice calving off into the ocean.

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Circusdog
Oct 23, 09 11:42 AM CDT

To continue. Billions of tons of ice calving off into the ocean will lower the overall temperature of the sea. A safety valve if you will. However the result of adding massive amounts of fresh water on top of salt water will have a drastic effect on sealife/fishing and currents. Again if you look at one factor and base your argument on that alone..You're making a fool of yourself.

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freethemall
Oct 23, 09 2:38 AM CDT

Though it may be true that 1998 was the warmest year on record (some say 2005 was), this doesn't, by a long shot, prove that we are not in a warming cycle, a warming cycle that is NOT just part of a normal pattern of warming and cooling. I quote from The Skeptic's Dictionary -skedic.com: "... any single year may trend warmer or cooler for a variety of reasons -- 1998, for instance, featured an extremely strong El Niño -- study globally averaged temperatures over time. To them, it's far more relevant that out of the 10 warmest years on record, at least seven have occurred in the 2000s -- ". Reply

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freethemall
Oct 23, 09 2:54 AM CDT

There was no scientific consensus in the 1970s that the Earth was headed into an imminent ice age. Indeed, the possibility of anthropogenic warming dominated the peer-reviewed literature even then. The foregoing is from the Skeptic Dictionary web site: http://ams.allenpress.com/archive/1520-0477/89/9/pdf/i1520-0477-89-9-1325. Reply

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freethemall
Oct 23, 09 3:07 AM CDT

I couldn't make the link I provided work, but just google Skeptic's Dictionary. There's a wealth of information there.

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cementhead
Oct 23, 09 4:47 AM CDT

Ah... life in Disneyville. Let's get our pockets picked by even more nonsense, while we're at it. Global warming must be real, Al Gore said so. NOT !!!! Everything we look at now, turns out to be some bogus cash grab. Al baby has managed to use this phony scare to increase his wealth exponentially. When I was in university, "Global Cooling" was on the cover of every respected publication. We were doomed as the polar ice caps were advancing on us and eating up all arable land. Eventually, it got boring and the dough available for the phony cooling deal dried up, so it became warming. What have you got for us next? Reply

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freethemall
Oct 23, 09 11:47 PM CDT

Obviously you didn't read what I posted above. So, for your edification I will copy and past it here: There was no scientific consensus in the 1970s that the Earth was headed into an imminent ice age. Indeed, the possibility of anthropogenic warming dominated the peer-reviewed literature even then. The foregoing is from the Skeptic Dictionary web site. But I'm sure you won't read this either, just as you did not read Al Gore's book, or view his documentary. Otherwise you wouldn't quack like a duck, every time you "expound" upon the subject.

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freethemall
Oct 25, 09 6:03 PM CDT

Cementhead, (BTW your user name seems apt) you've not read Al Gore's book, nor viewed his documentary, have you? Of course you wouldn't give any credence to such liberal misinformation, would you? Too bad! Too for you and too bad for all the rest of us, and too bad for the planet, that you, and so many others have allowed yourselves to be duped by those who have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo.

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BoZo
Oct 23, 09 9:29 AM CDT

And more 'Mericans believe in Bob. Reply

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johntitor
Oct 23, 09 2:26 PM CDT

All this can be solved by better technology, and better societal practices. Environmentalists most often look to extinctions for explanation..the first species(s) to go..amphibians. Are Amphibians declining...all signs point to yes. I dont give a damn what money grubbing Al Gore thinks, thats the majority of conflict in this room...the potential to be mislead, resulting in (supposed) outlandish policies that destroy our sovereignty and or ease of business/movement. This is a social issue just the same as obesity. Reply

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Jezze
Oct 23, 09 3:22 PM CDT

if the government wasnt so shady the people wouldnt have to guess about what to believe. Reply

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freethemall
Oct 24, 09 7:50 PM CDT

I'm not confused about what to believe about climate change, and you wouldn't either, if you didn't let yourself be confused by those who have a vested interest in the status quo, and that's not the government -- they're also trying to confuse you about that.

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MarkFL
Oct 23, 09 6:04 PM CDT

People are right to question whether the solutions that people come up with will do any good. That should be a vigorous debate. there are certainly some bad ideas out there. What concerns me is the anti science, special interest promoted nonsense that casts doubt on well established science. Notice how they never refute serious peer reviewed work with real science? Global warming is real and caused in part by our behavior. Now stop lying about it and come up with a sensible plan to do something about it. What a waste! Real science is done and they spend even more money on the political spin and the reeducation of the public. If they would spend their cash on research maybe we would have some real ideas by now! Reply

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freethemall
Oct 24, 09 7:42 PM CDT

Right on Mark! The well established science on the hazards of using tobacco products was discounted, for decades, in a very similar manner, for very similar reasons.

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zentenai
Oct 23, 09 8:01 PM CDT

Morons. Reply

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Fewer Americans Believe in Global Warming

Those seeing evidence of it dropped from 71%-57% in 18 months

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Hacked Emails
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Scientist talks about adding a 'trick' to graph

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Carbon-Tax Foes Must Think the End Is Nigh

How else to explain them being OK with the exploding population?

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Globe on Course for 'Worst-Case' Temp Hike

6 degree rise predicted if Copenhagen deal fails

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