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Doesn't Anybody Have Any Doubts About How We're Doing This?

Mar 26, 09 | 8:47 AM   byMichael Wolff
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Who is going to play Mervyn King in America—who'll play the prudent voice of reason? Not the obstructionist Republicans who long ago got disqualified from reasonableness.

King is the Bank of England governor and he has taken the reasonable view that a nation shouldn’t spend what it can’t afford to spend. On that basis he’s now standing up to Gordon Brown’s government and saying enough—put a brake on the stimulus.

This isn’t complicated stuff: At some point you spend so much and imperil your economy so clearly that nobody will lend to you, and so your interest rates explode, which vastly compounds your recession.

The counter-argument is as simple: We’ve no alternative but to spend wildly in the deepest hope that we can kick-start the economy before we kill it.

It’s a fine balancing act between those two realities. The art is in the balance.

So why no balance, or much of any discussion, in the US?

The possibility that we will spend ourselves into oblivion before saving ourselves is only slightly less pressing than it is in the UK. But there is no voice in the US, but for the Republicans who bear so much responsibility for the mess (Karl Rove is blathering on in the Wall Street Journal today about the stimulus—which would incline most reasonable people to support it), begging for moderation.


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Certainly not the theoretically independent chairman of the Federal Reserve, Ben Bernanke, who has not only expressed solidarity with the White House spending plan, but showed up at congressional hearings on Capitol Hill wearing the same tie as Treasury Secretary Geithner. Everybody is in sync. Nobody’s standing up to anybody anytime soon. (Likewise, nobody’s much objected to Geithner’s bid yesterday to take control of lesser regulated parts of the financial markets like hedge funds and private equity groups.)

It’s weird, this lack of obvious response. Or not. It just may be that nobody knows what else to do but break the bank, and like Gordon Brown, most everybody in Washington continues to hope that spending crazily, with any luck, will get us out of this mess before the spending itself sinks us.

But what if it doesn’t? What if this calculation, insofar as it is a calculation at all, is faulty?

It’s always good to have someone else check the math.

More of Newser founder Michael Wolff's articles and commentary can be found at VanityFair.com, where he writes a regular column. He can be emailed at michael@newser.com

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JBTipton
Mar 26, 09 12:13 PM CDT
May I make one simple rejoinder? It's NOT simple. The US, unlike Britain, has the enormous advantage of its currency being the reserve currency for the world. Does anyone get the exquisite irony that, while the US is printing money with wild abandon and making spending commitments that would make Huey Long blush, the dollar remains extremely strong? That the stock market yesterday sold off because the US government had to pay 1.85%, and not 1.80%, for five year money? Just as the US government has two choices--do more or less what this administration is doing or do nothing--the world of capital has two choices, the US dollar for its billions in liquid assets or NOTHING. No other currency, or gold, can perform this function. This simple fact--yes some things are simple--gives the US enormous flexibility that no other country, including the UK, has. How do you think our nation survived eight years of the fiscal management under Bush/Cheney? The dollar and US government debt may be a terrible investment, but what's the alternative? Just ask the Chinese. Reply
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gianpaul
Mar 26, 09 4:06 PM CDT
Its hilarious indeed! Agree also with JB Tipton, mostly. Why the hell does a US Congresswoman today introduce a bill to forbid constitutionally the introduction of a world currency. Such a thing will obviously never exist, cannot, unless all melts totally down and people will have to barter what are trivial necessities, stone - age again, so to say (the thing then would be e.g. salt).The Chinese have a legitimate concern (besides their desire to show off a bit). But then they are Chinese as well, difficult to read their faces, so to say. We happen to know that they presently are stockpiling enormous amounts of Chilean copper. Easy to stock, does not even rot or rust and one day they will certainly use it to produce hairdryers for export again! Re. Cheney, now that that man is out of the way, I guess that the Chinese will double up with natural gas contracts now with Iraq. As they just did with Iran. One element of the Chinese problem is that their regime cannot possibly spend more of their reserves domestically. According to Amnesty International, of the 22 000 executions in the world last year, 2/3 were in China. If the regime was spending more now, capitalism and corruption would become such, that the commies in charge would loose control! Reply
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polstroad
Mar 26, 09 4:13 PM CDT
On comment above: yes, many executions but the sale of body parts is good for economic growth. Reply
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lefthem
Mar 26, 09 4:38 PM CDT
Umm, perhaps you should read more of Krugman's writings, along with a myriad of other economists who believe the administration is being TOO TIMID and should be spending vastly more. They worry that this stimulus is too small. The reason Bernanke is in favor of the stimulus package is that he's really worried about getting into a deflationary cycle. That's why he just started printing money (only $300B, but still...). Once you get into a deflationary cycle, it gets really really tough to get out o it (oft-cited example: Japan's lost decade(s)). Point is, this stimulus was already a compromise. The budget, on the other hand, aims to get the US out of a slow downward spiral where it becomes increasingly less competitive globally, and it's another discussion. Reply
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morenogabr
Mar 26, 09 7:58 PM CDT
I would think that Krugman would be in agreement with this piece. THe point that Krugman is trying, to no avail, to make is that 'if you're trying to save our economy in a spending race, my calculations show you are not spending enough... not nearly.' Im sure P.Krugman is thinking the same thing: At what point do we step back and question if we even can spend enough? Is it even possible? He's watching a runaway trainwreck and saying out loud, "damnit, we didnt catch it quick enough". We're all ready for plan B...
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reality
Mar 26, 09 4:55 PM CDT
Drill baby drill!!!!! But seriously did anyone see that money supply chart that Glen Beck was presenting the other day? Anyone? No? Oh well. He did NOT make up those figures. They ARE real. But then I've seen first hand in my lifetime democrats line up for their monthly ration in cheese. My friend once traded me two 5 lb blocks for my Benjamin air rifle. It was some very good cheese. I just can't see folks carrying that stuff around in their wallets though. So maybe we should at least somewhat monitor how much we print/spend. Reply
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Grisha54
Mar 28, 09 6:28 AM CDT
Good gawd Michael...get over yourself and this attitude that you are one of the few asking the tough questions. Of course everyone has doubts...and you can bet what's left of my 401K's that Obama and Geithner and Summers and the rest of the administration would rather be doing anything besides making their best calculated guesses about how pull this off. Boehner and the GOP say NO more, Krugman advises a LOT more....and there is that whole messy minefield between those two extremes to deal with. Do you really suppose that no one is awake in the OMB after midnight replacing their calculator batteries? If you want assurances...turn to religion, or buy some worry beads to stimulate the economy. In the meantime the rest of us will run the numbers and do our best... Reply
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JBKirtley
Mar 29, 09 9:01 AM CDT
Let's get this straight. It took the whole congress to screw up the economy. Dodds and company are just as culpable as Republican leadership and anyone who believes otherwise is whistling past the graveyard. If you want the economy to not just grow but regain its correct place in leading the world, two things need to happen. First, reduce the corporate income tax to worldwide competitive level. This will create more jobs than any stimulus package. Second, people making decisions in this country need to reclaim the "art" of compromise. Washington is degrading to the level of British Parliament. I am soon expecting cat calls and boos from the floor and gallery. And it is just so. We will continue to be a joke according to the world's perception as long as we continue to revel in rhetoric and wallow in "What's in it for me?". There is not way around the first rule of the household budget: You cannot spend what you do not have. Reply
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